Any Peugeot 308 Owners?

[BabyGodzillaGTi-R]

Just a long shot,
any Peugeot 308 owners on ZTH?
Or group, kaki?

Nice car, cheaper alternative to a Mini Cooper.
Any 2 cents to share?

My 1st post on ZTH for eons....
Cheers

 

[lowpro]

apparently none of them in here :)

 

[takeyourgun]

apparently none of them in here :)

haha, i think so..
but, why ar? no 1 is interested in tis france car at all?
i thought tat tis 308 is very attractive tag with tis price?

 

[FEMlab]

Im here..been running 308 for 3month now..nice car..bro most 308 owner hang around in 'autoworld.com.my' in cyberspace..zth is too hardcore for 308 owner dude..

New car so..hardly can do any hard core mod..

 

[lowpro]

Fem,

hi there!! how have u been? long time hv not see you in autoworld. hope your car is ok.

 

[FEMlab]

Hey man..wassup

I hang around zth nowadays..autoworld peugeot section..eventhough active are too "tame'..mainly new car owner or hopeful owner wanna find out about the car.. I guess I am beyond that stage now :rolleyes:.. I am in "spice up" the car mode.. so I guess reading post here is better now.. (eventhough I hvnt start posting here yet..)

And Andy post wont help either

see you around man..

 

[lowpro]

i agree with you on the aw forum. i only tune in to watch nowadays. too many controversies in there and i dont want to be a part of it.

btw, now there's a big issue on the 308 pulling to the left... i know the problem and it is simple to solve but don't think i want to mention anything about it lah. not going to help me in any way... in fact they may even tembak me in there and i would have opened another can of worms for myself!

 

[epang]

haha well ZTH need more 308ers!... anyone wanted to buy one?

 

[TitanRev]

Wah~~pug starting to make appearence at ZTH..good good...since pug is still consider as a tiny micro group in the big ZTH community...

LP, you are right.... too much wannabes and Mr. know it all......I like it here very much and I believe you will too..

 

[lowpro]

TR,

yeah. pug drivers in here are just a drop in the ocean!! hahaha :)

anyway guys, i have a bone to pick here.

i think the way aw pug forummers are highllighting issues are only going to shoot themselves in their foot one day... the issue will come back in other forms and bite them. i'll explain what i mean below.

how this happens is like this... they complain openly on the web... this is seen by the whole world, people will then worry about buying peugeot and what happens next? the buying stops and the owners die because - 1) franchise holder won't have volume already (of this won't happen overnight but those ppl in aw are themselves killing the brand by not doing things through the proper channels) 2) no volume = no spare parts availability (franchise holder needs to have volume to be confident to stock up on more parts) 3) no more easy parts = higher prices for parts 4) higher price for spare parts = bad resale value ... and so on and so forth lah. i'm sure you get the point.

so you see, the franchise holder is now trying to build up critical mass. yes there will be small issues here n there like the "to the left, to the left" and battery prices but these are small matters (i'm sure the owners don't think so now lah ;) ) in the grand scheme of things and i believe they will be solved in due course. anyway, which brand doesn't have issues? only difference is owners of other brands will just swallow it and go about seeking redress in a civilised and mature kind of way. not mob rule.

back to the issue i mentioned above... without the critical mass on the roads, the franchise holder will then treat the brand like a niche product and overall, this will be bad for who? not the franchise holder. it is the peugeot owner who will suffer isn't it? franchise holder can just say 'oklah, these customers have too many problems with the brand... too many unresolved issues and sales are affected by bad mouthing out there..., let's just stop doing peugeot and look for another brand'. they can just switch brands right? it is a vicious cycle that must not continue before the owners themselves get hurt by their own actions. the proper way is to call the hotline (i'm sure all pug owners know this number by heart already by now) and ask to meet with the customer service boss. this is the proper way to do it if they are serious in wanting to do something. the 'watchers' are no longer going to bother about what is written in aw as nothing is ever forwarded to the proper channels. they may even look at those postings as slander. i mean, there are many ways to look at it lah.

well, that is just my 2 cents worth lah ;)

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i'm not saying the cars are perfect, that the franchise holder is faultless and that the owners cannot whine and whinge but there are more appropriate ways to do it IF they take the effort. airing dirty laundry in public is like throwing a bag of s**t towards the fan... what happens next? everybody including the owners themselves gets hit.

 

[TitanRev]

LP, that's the mentality problem. They think they buy a 100K car and expect it to be problem proof. They are expecting 'I want to pay the price of local cars but get cars like Merc or BM' even these cars also got problem.. they have forgotten that 'You get what you paid'....

LP, but the SC people need to brush up on their attitude. Not all are rotten apple but those rotten ones will spread.

 

[lowpro]

yeah. i agree with you on the service ppl who need to brush up their people and technical skills. so much to do, so little time!!

 

[TitanRev]

LP, nevermind lah. Cheer up...at least you now find a place which is more suitable for you. I also lost hope it that place already. Talking bodek bodek only but at the back stab you like crazy...

say want to do this do that..... NATO only...

 

[lowpro]

hahahaha

 

[epang]

I guess the main problems is they are selling the car too cheap... and when the car is cheap basically everybody can buy... but can buy doesnt means can maintain it... so when that happen... then they complaint la... end of the day.. they are killing thier own car with each complaints,..

Once the SC told me before, when the 206 was selling for around rm90k price tag basically the owners had no problems in maintaining it, changing parts... quoted rm1k-2k.. ok no problems.. coz they know it is worthy.. but now.. look at the bestari selling at rm44k... when got problems and needed to change parts rm800 alredi complaint like hell.. coz some of them cant really afford it.

Anyway... ZTH need more pug owners la.. hahaha.. its abit quiet here... so anyone looking forward of getting a lion into your collection... look for me hahaha

 

[TitanRev]

Wah~~epang...keep promoting pug here...Hahahaha....

NAZA's should have kept the price tag higher so that medium class people buy them only. Just like you said. the price is almost the same or even cheaper like local made cars. This has cause the lower income group also buying them but as we all know buying car is 1 thing. Maintaning it is another story...It's like an investment..

Actually I won't mind if the 206B was around the price range of 70K plus. At least the people buying them would be able to afford to maintain them. I think a few more years down the road, you will see a lot of used 206B for sale....and mileage would be close to major service or parts ending period...condition sure not good..

 

[epang]

hehe need to make a living mar bro,... so want me to quote you a 308THP? hahaha...

 

[FEMlab]

Hik2..look like only few pug owner here in ZTH..(hik2..long time I hvnt come to tis tread, seem like the comunity is growing ;)

TitanRev..I think the concept of "Buying car is one thing, mainting is another" doest apply to mass Msia crowd..you can see alot and lot of people earning rm3k/month..but still go and buy 5-7 years old beemer e46..

Epang, you sell pug now??

Lowpro..I dont know about other owner..but for me..I dont mine the thing being niche..not to many on the road..so I am prepared to pay the price for maintaining it (cos I even consider new fiat bravo at 1 time)..If wanna mass market product that is cheap and "establish" SC..I go for jap any days

 

[epang]

Fem,

Yup trying to help out those that love pug but having nightmare on getting it due to lack of good SA hehe...

Well i guess if you are enjoying your car then good la.. just enjoy it...

 

[lowpro]

epang,

perhaps the car is too affordable as you mentioned. but imho, for the franchise holder, they are caught between two extremes. one - to have the car priced where it should be and this should eliminate those who would otherwise pick japanese and two, price it below what it is worth to build up numbers.

looks like the strategy was to build up numbers. however, to cope with the numbers, the sc needs beefing up... and fast. at this rate, it will be difficult for the new owners who are very new to european car ownership. at least they are working on it as the new sc boss seems to be more customer oriented.

but if they picked the high price strategy and only sell dribs and drabs, then they wouldn't have a strong business case... BUT, they will be better equipped to handle the customers due to lower volumes. anyway, either way picked, there will still be issues (no such thing as a fool-proof plan) and they would just need to cope with either situation and improve where it matters.

to the other pug owners elsewhere,

perhaps i was a bit too harsh in my earlier post and apologise if i had offended the pug owners elsewhere but the statements were made in my personal capacity and not professionally.

i still believe that there is a better way to do things that will benefit everybody. i still maintain that mob rule is not the way and that proper dialogue is the best to solve matters. anyway, i do apologise if pug owners have been offended by my statement earlier.

 

[TitanRev]

The problems started when issues where not solved properly by the appropriate party so the problem roll from a small snowball to a big snowball.

I think the problem always come from the 1st batch of new cars regardless of make. Mostly 1st batch will have the most problem. Then they receive complain from customer and rectify the problem on 2nd batch and 3rd batch and on and on....I know some P1 mechs and they say owners are the best QC...Hahahaha

 

[lowpro]

TR,

you are so right. small issues not handled well snowballed. but i think the franchise holder is not going to take this sitting down. the matters have been highlighted already and i believe that there will be some precedent set to ensure that the pug owners are looked after better after this. but, it will not be overnight and those hoping for a change at a wave of a magic wand will not be amused. perhaps in a month or so, there should be some form of positive change. i'm glad that the meeting that a 308 owner had with some nasim ppl last friday worked out well though some issues aren't fully resolved yet. i hope that this will be a sign of better things to come.

 

[lowpro]

there's a peugeot test drive roadshow at sunway open car park on sunday, 13 Sept. all models including 308gt and 207cc available for test drive. actually, it was from 11 - 13 Sept. test drive got gifts and those who book cars get t&g cards (when the car is delivered) and restaurant vouchers worth rm100.

 

[lowpro]

there's a peugeot test drive event at sunway open car park tomorrow, 13 sept. got gifts for test drive and booking.

 

[turbolover]

Already paid my booking for the 308turbo but my company have not given the green light to purchaed it yet.numerous cars have been offered to me since i'm on the list but well,got to wait for it.getting a white one.is the one with the moon roof feels hotter on sunny days?