very noob guy asking about audio here [SERIOUSLY]

[vishnnu]

regardless what the reason is,skilled dudes such as u,howie n jensen deserve better la if things don't work out ur way coz y'all are friendly with customers ma........i've even confirmed my date for the stuffs to be done at ur new place.....bro,got place to lepak ah like AG?put one PS2 la.............and a vending machine.......

 

[angeldeservetosleep]

i company vishnu play ps2~! play winning eleven? im newbies haha

 

[vishnnu]

not that good la playing winning elevan.....gt la........medal of honour......

 

[angeldeservetosleep]

dat one i dnt know. i only play winning 11 coz i dnt have ps2...

 

[vishnnu]

any 18sx game ah,angel.....we play dat one la......

 

[angeldeservetosleep]

wahahha no wonder sifu zenn call u gay~! pervert u~!

 

[vishnnu]

wei,game only la,real deal with some chick la

 

[angeldeservetosleep]

chick or dick~? ;P;P

 

[~*Lil-Ms-Tweeter*~]

Hi guys...
I am a noobie here...
Sorry to interrupt, but I do really need to know something about ICE.

I've been following the forum discussion almost a week now. Since then, I've got really involved and interested in I.C.E but my only problem is... a zero knowledge bout everything!!! :slug:

I mean, for real... I do not know what funtion of HU? Why is it so important? How does it work? I just got to know today from one of my member... he told me that the good HU is the one with more output at the back... , Then, I checked in the forum about HU with 24 bit. I've got more confused lah!

Oh... b4 go more further...
sorry cos I'm asking too much as I am really ZERO... (hope to be near to HERO... )
And most probably...
Guys really avoiding me whenever I ask about I.C.E cos they think that
girls know nothing about CAR!!!
Sometime they gave me a really pityfull look... and that so mean!

WTF is that?
so I hope....
you can help me with this....


(I already PM Zenn bout the similiar q... thanx Zenn for the info. And now I need more opinion... bleh la...)

 

[cacin]

~*Lil-Ms-Tweeter*~

a function of a HU is to become the source of your sound system :)
be it radio, cd, mp3, dvd etc

if you're a casual listener, can go for HU with not so extreme features/price.
if you think/believe that you are those very picky when it comes to ICE, can go for those high end ones.
the pre-out(RCA) is to connect to amps. So, it is advisable to get HU with what you need and just a little bit more. reason: if you plan to upgrade later, you might not need to change your HU if it is 'good enough'
if you're on a limited budget, just get something with the most reasonably priced and within your budget.
do you have plans/future plans for your ICE? Like how many amps want to put in, speakers?

what is the genre of music that you mostly listens to?

about the 24bit thing, if the HU is cheap, probably can go for it. If not, maybe no need because there might be a chance that you might not be able to hear the difference anyway. At least I can't.

 

[~*Lil-Ms-Tweeter*~]

~*Lil-Ms-Tweeter*~

a function of a HU is to become the source of your sound system :)
be it radio, cd, mp3, dvd etc

if you're a casual listener, can go for HU with not so extreme features/price.
if you think/believe that you are those very picky when it comes to ICE, can go for those high end ones.
the pre-out(RCA) is to connect to amps. So, it is advisable to get HU with what you need and just a little bit more. reason: if you plan to upgrade later, you might not need to change your HU if it is 'good enough'
if you're on a limited budget, just get something with the most reasonably priced and within your budget.
do you have plans/future plans for your ICE? Like how many amps want to put in, speakers?

what is the genre of music that you mostly listens to?

about the 24bit thing, if the HU is cheap, probably can go for it. If not, maybe no need because there might be a chance that you might not be able to hear the difference anyway. At least I can't.

Hi Cacin bro...
waiting for u to answer this one la... :proud:

For the time being, maybe all I need to do is...
just being grateful wiv what I already have (sound frustrated hah?)
I still dont have any budget for ICE but
definitely I will upgrade my audio system in future...
If not whats the point I'm here... am I rite?

All I need to do now...
make fully research on ICE...
and I guess I probably choose SQ than SPL...
I dunno what kind of music I like...
cos... I can layan evry kind of song...
even dangdut Amelina some more...

But my most all the time fave of course R&B, Pop...
so...
I guess SQ is good for me... rite?

 

[bafukie]

good starting point... research and do up reading :)

 

[Zenn]

since lil ms tweeter oledi kantoi us pm-2 togeder-geder, then i share my answer to her with everyone lah, maybe can benefit other readers...

first reply:
dont believe much on HU specs, the bits and this and that all. HU is all depend on $$$, the more expensive, the better the sound, so just buy whatever u can afford, or my advise for newbies, buy 2nd hand, u can get something worth twice the money, bcoz most 2nd hand items are sold at half price.

2nd reply:
best thing is to follow ice forums, like mycarhifi.com, icehifi.com then u will know the HU that is normally used in good SQ cars.

the bit bit story is never ending argument la, coz can still find old 1bit players that sound better than 24bit

for the pre out voltage, more is better, but i can still show u some players with 4V sound better than the ones with 8V.

so thats why i say its pointless to compare specs. u only have to compare sound, in the end there are only a few HUs that are common to good SQ systems

alpine 9835 - 800 used
alpine 9855 - 1000 used 2000 new
alpine 7998 - 1500 used
pioneer p80 - 1200 used 1800 new
clarion hx-d2 - 2500 used 3800 new
clarion 9255exl - 1000 used
mcintosh mx406 - 3500 used
mcintosh mx4000 - 4500 used
mcintosh mx5000 - 5000 used
pioneer p9 - 3500 used 8000 new
alpine 7990 - 3500 used
alpine 9990 - 5500 used, 9000 new

 

[cacin]

alpine 9835 - 800 used
alpine 9855 - 1000 used 2000 new
alpine 7998 - 1500 used
pioneer p80 - 1200 used 1800 new
clarion hx-d2 - 2500 used 3800 new
clarion 9255exl - 1000 used
mcintosh mx406 - 3500 used
mcintosh mx4000 - 4500 used
mcintosh mx5000 - 5000 used
pioneer p9 - 3500 used 8000 new
alpine 7990 - 3500 used
alpine 9990 - 5500 used, 9000 new

none of the eclipse made it into the list? :)
like CD8061 or probably the CD8455?
how about older alpines like the CDA-9815 or CDA-7949?

personally used the Eclipse CD8053, Alpine CDA-9815 and CDA-9835....
all got pro and cons to me....:)

If you want to study first, can also try www.bcae1.com. This is for 'basic' car audio knowledge. doesn't talk about equipment etc.

 

[Zenn]

sori la taip laju without thinkin much, but 8061 boleh la masuk...9815 pun ok

if start masuk 7949, kena masuk 7939, 7909 semua haha...

 

[cacin]

Hi Cacin bro...
waiting for u to answer this one la... :proud:

err..... why waiting for me to answer eh?
thought you already asked sifu Zenn? :) (he's also my sifu :D)

just some sharing on the pro and cons
Pro
CDA-9815 - 'pigtails' rca preout connectors. Easy sub out Off.
CDA-9835 - nice display, separate DC/DC converter. Easy sub out Off.
CD8053 - 5 para EQ for mid and high each. 'pigtails' rca connectors. Individual L/R level adjust.

Con
CDA-9815 - 5 para EQ only
CDA-9835 - No pigtail RCA (only for sub out got) and 5 para EQ only.
CD8053 - No Eq for sub out. 7 pairs of RCA pigtails! Sure make installation hard if your din space is cramp. No even FM requency (only odds ie 89.9)......

 

[angeldeservetosleep]

how bout 7100?

Bump: how bout 7100?

Bump: how bout 7100?

 

[drexchan]

how bout 7100?

My favourite.

supports active control of slope and x-over for tweets, mids and subs. 11-band eq. time aligment in both level (1 db res) and phase (0.1 mili sec res). sub phase control.. ah.. many more.

ah, not much diff from the rest of those equivalent ones.. LOL!

But I just like it.

 

[cacin]

My favourite.

supports active control of slope and x-over for tweets, mids and subs. 21-band eq. time aligment in both level (1 db res) and phase (0.1 mili sec res). sub phase control.. ah.. many more.

ah, not much diff from the rest of those equivalent ones.. LOL!

But I just like it.

woh... didn't know the EQ was 21 band....
Is that for all outputs? nice colour display also right?

 

[vishnnu]

thanks Howie for advising me on the cd7100:wavey: