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[si|verfish]

Like you said, Fergie likes the 4-5-1 formation in Europe, especially away. In fact he bought Hargreaves in specifically to fit into this system as the missing piece, midfield anchorman. So he may stick with that.

He rested a couple of players and we'll likely see them against Lyon.

So, I won't be surprised to see Hargreaves, Carrick and Scholes in the middle. Giggs on the left and Ronaldo on the right. Rooney up top by himself.

Or I could be completely wrong and Fergie decides on the 4-4-2, dropping Carrick and playing Tevez up top with Rooney.

 

[cYBorG]

i hope anderson will get another chances to play again lyon. he's very entertaining player, his pass, cross.. superbly done by him against arsenal..

 

[Gti]

With Saha back and the privilege of 7 players on the bench in UCL's game, i don't think SAF will do much changes to the side that beat the arse.
Few changes are inevitable but question is who?

The back 4 plus VDS will remain.
The puzzle starts with the attacking 6.
As i mentioned earlier, since Saha is back, i would like to think that SAF will start with both Wazza and Tevez, the latter being the target while the former drop off a little to the midfield as usual.

For this particular game, i think SAF will opt for experience - therefore Scholesy will start. Pretty sure. Another certain starter will be Ronnie.
Now, there remain 2 more slots - so it will be between Giggsy, Carrick, Anderson and Hargreaves.

If Giggsy is overlooked, Wazza will then come in from the left and we will have Hargreaves Scholes and Carrick in the middle.
And if Giggsy starts, then i will expect Anderson and Carrick to be dropped - though personally i doubt SAF will make so much changes to a central midfield pairing that performed so admirably in their last match.
But that said, I do not expect Anderson to start the game as i personally feels that SAF will give Scholesy the nod for the attacking midfield berth.

So my guess is either - Rooney - Hargreaves - Scholes - Carrick Ronnie or
Giggs - Carrick - Scholes - Rooney

i think it's highly unlikely Carrick will be dropped given his form in recent matches.
And since Giggsy's form's not the best recently, the thought that Rooney could drop to the left is a big possibility.

 

[si|verfish]

Ronnie will certainly start, that goes without question.

The key I'm looking at is who got rested against Arsenal and that's Tevez, Scholes, Giggs and Hargreaves. So, of the 4 of them, 2 will most probably start. I'm betting that Scholesy and Hargo is about 90% certain to start, with Giggs maybe 70%.

And then you look at who played against Arsenal. Carrick played the full 90 minutes. Somehow I have a feeling he may be sacrificed, although he's been in brilliant form and I would like to see him play. He may play if Fergie employs a 5 man midfield. Anderson looked tired before he was subbed against Le Arse. I don't think he'll play. Nani also played the full 90. He may start because of how well he did, but then there's fitness to think about. So he's a throw up with Giggsy and Giggs will likely get the nod because of experience and he had a rest.

Rooney will definitely start. If we play a 5 man midfield, Tevez won't start. If we play 4-4-2 he will.

 

[Stormvolution 9]

What a joke!!! Hahaha... V get yet another Premier League tie in the FA Cup game, this time against Pompey at Hom!!! Hahaha... But luckily for us, its another hom tie for us, so tht's not too bad... I think Chelsea hv been very lucky in all cup competitions this yr... They always get weaker opponents, FA Cup, League Cup& ECL too... Hahaha...

Back to the line up in Lyon... Today's report said SAF gonna play Ronnie, Giggsy & Scholesy!!! And i think he wil play Tevez as well!!! So the main question here wil b whether Carrick or Hargo wil b picked for th remaining spot in the lineup...

I agreed tht SAF bought Hargo mainly for his european experience, so i think he wil start!!! But given tht Carrick is currently on form he shld play as well n if omitted him, it wil b totally diff midfield lineup from Sat... Other than tht, v got a important league match against Newcastle away which is a must win game for us, so all in all i think SAF might opt for Hargo & keep Carrick for the Sat game... Hahaha... Not easy being SAF, tht's y he is being paid so much to do this!!!

 

[Stormvolution 9]

Other than tht, i would love to hear from u guyz abt Nani case... Do u guyz think its Nani tht provoke those cibai hai AFC players to kick him?! Do u guyz think he was showboating?!

For me, i dun think so... Both Nani & Ronnie r skillful players and by displaying their skill on the game show how confidence they r with themselves!!! And to me, dun think Nani hv over doit or anything n tht nite!!! I think its non-sense tht AW complained abt it as i think they r a SORE-LOSERS!!! Always!!! Go ask him, if other team players kick kao his Fabregas cos he is displaying his skill on the pitch, what wil he say?! For sure he wil lost his top n diu kao the referee on the sideline kao kao!!!

I think its de case with our Kelantan Sohai Nik Aziz who said, due to gals dressing (jus bcos gals r not covering their head, hands & legs), it disturb men to concentrate their mind on praying!!! LoLzzzzzzzzzzzz.... What a cibai-est joke in the world?!

AW together with Nik Cibai, u guyz shld TEACH yr ppl to b discipline n not blaming other for yr own faults!!! SOHAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII...

 

[Gti]

so in a way ur saying that SAF is one of them as well?
I have to disagree with you on this storm.

What Nani did, though did not violate any written law, is totally uncalled for.
What is the purpose of him doing so? To show confidence?
Think again.
There are many ways to show your confidence.
Now when Mourinho was voicing his confidence/arrogance, i remember u were saying him a big mouth didn't you?
If he were showing off - vocally ie: provoking, it doesn't necessarily mean we shall fall for his cheap booby trap ain't it.

Alas, we are all human.
It is only natural that we will be angered by his jibes.
Similarly in the Nani incident, imagine if you're a footballer. Your team are losing 4-0 to your bitter rival and there's this oppposition player juggling in front of you.
You will take that as a taunt - an insult to your intelligence/capability as a footballer/person. (whether intentionally or not)
And yes, i will raise both hands to admit that I will be the first person to bring him down if i were playing because he was insulting my whole team.

And pls do not bring politics into the picture - i don't think the comparison is appropriate.
We are talking about a criminal offence that can bring up to 20years imprisonment + whipping as a consequence - as compared to a game of football where a 2 footed lunge will only bring a straight red and 3 matches suspension. (And maybe a broken foot)
So it's totally a different level of human restraint that we are talking about.

 

[Lopot]

On Nani case, I would agree with David Platt and Glen Hoddle....showboating is ok if its done on the right time and the right place. In this case, I think Nani have the right to be fancy and showboat his skill and antics because he's been exceptionally well againts one of the best defensive line in the league. He outsmart their wing back left and right and create chaos with the centerback where the mohawk use to be dominant.
On the Nik Aziz case...well i think it should been discussed here lar storm...general election are close by, racist and religions sentiment are very sensitive now. Let's just focus on our beloved team, Man Utd

 

[Gti]

yes, it can be done. Anytime anywhere. Nobody is stopping you.
But your bear your own consequence. Simple as that.
If a person came in knee high.
What you gonna do after that?
Shout at him?
Which is why i say, it's totally uncalled for. You're asking for trouble.

 

[vtec_1088]

Other than tht, i would love to hear from u guyz abt Nani case... Do u guyz think its Nani tht provoke those cibai hai AFC players to kick him?! Do u guyz think he was showboating?!

For me, i dun think so... Both Nani & Ronnie r skillful players and by displaying their skill on the game show how confidence they r with themselves!!! And to me, dun think Nani hv over doit or anything n tht nite!!! I think its non-sense tht AW complained abt it as i think they r a SORE-LOSERS!!! Always!!! Go ask him, if other team players kick kao his Fabregas cos he is displaying his skill on the pitch, what wil he say?! For sure he wil lost his top n diu kao the referee on the sideline kao kao!!!

I think its de case with our Kelantan Sohai Nik Aziz who said, due to gals dressing (jus bcos gals r not covering their head, hands & legs), it disturb men to concentrate their mind on praying!!! LoLzzzzzzzzzzzz.... What a cibai-est joke in the world?!

AW together with Nik Cibai, u guyz shld TEACH yr ppl to b discipline n not blaming other for yr own faults!!! SOHAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII...

watch your words mate.. don't bring any racist issue here.. do you know what's the reasons behind the nik aziz's dressing code?

 

[vtec_1088]

Other than tht, i would love to hear from u guyz abt Nani case... Do u guyz think its Nani tht provoke those cibai hai AFC players to kick him?! Do u guyz think he was showboating?!

For me, i dun think so... Both Nani & Ronnie r skillful players and by displaying their skill on the game show how confidence they r with themselves!!! And to me, dun think Nani hv over doit or anything n tht nite!!! I think its non-sense tht AW complained abt it as i think they r a SORE-LOSERS!!! Always!!! Go ask him, if other team players kick kao his Fabregas cos he is displaying his skill on the pitch, what wil he say?! For sure he wil lost his top n diu kao the referee on the sideline kao kao!!!

I think its de case with our Kelantan Sohai Nik Aziz who said, due to gals dressing (jus bcos gals r not covering their head, hands & legs), it disturb men to concentrate their mind on praying!!! LoLzzzzzzzzzzzz.... What a cibai-est joke in the world?!

AW together with Nik Cibai, u guyz shld TEACH yr ppl to b discipline n not blaming other for yr own faults!!! SOHAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII...

watch your words mate.. don't bring any racist issue here.. do you know what's the reasons behind the nik aziz's dressing code?

 

[vtec_1088]

Other than tht, i would love to hear from u guyz abt Nani case... Do u guyz think its Nani tht provoke those cibai hai AFC players to kick him?! Do u guyz think he was showboating?!

For me, i dun think so... Both Nani & Ronnie r skillful players and by displaying their skill on the game show how confidence they r with themselves!!! And to me, dun think Nani hv over doit or anything n tht nite!!! I think its non-sense tht AW complained abt it as i think they r a SORE-LOSERS!!! Always!!! Go ask him, if other team players kick kao his Fabregas cos he is displaying his skill on the pitch, what wil he say?! For sure he wil lost his top n diu kao the referee on the sideline kao kao!!!

I think its de case with our Kelantan Sohai Nik Aziz who said, due to gals dressing (jus bcos gals r not covering their head, hands & legs), it disturb men to concentrate their mind on praying!!! LoLzzzzzzzzzzzz.... What a cibai-est joke in the world?!

AW together with Nik Cibai, u guyz shld TEACH yr ppl to b discipline n not blaming other for yr own faults!!! SOHAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII...

watch your words mate.. don't bring any racist issue here.. do you know what's the reasons behind the nik aziz's dressing code?

 

[Lopot]

Well in case of people coming to you at knee high, it doesn't need provocation for them to do that. In happen in the game eventhough you playing in the modest way. It will happen to player that happens to be the key player on the team. Look at Ronaldo (Ac Milan), does he provoke the opponent that he deserved to be tackle like that? I don't think so...it just that he's just to good to let loose and hold the ball too long that opponent tend to take him down in what ever mean necessary as soon he get the ball...Opponent player also have to be criticize if they become a sore loser...they are so called professional...i know they are human and meant to do mistake...but for god sake...isn't it childish to let your anger to a person who are performing well that you. If what Nani's done is been criticize, well i think the football game will be boring one day....there won't be any skill and fancy move which we the football fan crave for on every game.
No offense Gti, my comment is not intend directly to your post but i just think all the fuss on what Nani's done is just unnecessary.

 

[Lopot]

watch your words mate.. don't bring any racist issue here.. do you know what's the reasons behind the nik aziz's dressing code?

vtec-1088,
we got your message dude...don't have to post it 3 times

Storm,
Better edit your post before it become fiery debate here

 

[Stormvolution 9]

Hahaha.... Apologize for bringing up inappropriate example here!!! Actually for tht issue, v hv discussed it b4 in the "General Talk" section so i didnt think its 'sensitive' anymore!!! My sincere apology to those who felt offended!!!

Back to Nani case, yep, i disagree with SAF on this as well!!! I dun really think Nani was over-do it... All he did was head juggling the ball when its high up... He didnt flick it up n head juggling it on purpose!!! He jus did it at the right moment when the ball is high!!! U get what i means?!

Cantona did it b4!!! Zidane did it b4 as well... So was Ronaldo (de fat 1)... But do u think they r provoking others?

Managers always need to tell their players to keep their cool n not being provoked by any things or any players on the field as they got a mission & responsibility to the team they r represented!!! Failing to do so, is their own fault!!! Its a simple thing to all football players!!!

If they react to this kinda thing, they r suppose to get punish!!! Jus like when u got a harsh tackle from behind n u kick tht player back...

If Nani was showboating, then Ronnie was doing it in every game as he keep crossing his legs over the ball in order to trick, make a fool or take a mickey out of the opponents (depends on how u see it again, for me, its skill n confidence!!!) SAF shld hv had a words with him after each n every game as well on this!!!

Sorry, my 'asshole' sting again here!!!

vtec_1088,

Errr... Reason ah?! Not interested le... Try look for the old thread abt him under the 'General Talk' section n post the reason there la... V talk abt it over there la... I was jus bringing it up as an example and not really wanna to discuss abt it... "Why our own fault hv to b blamed on others!!!"

 

[Stormvolution 9]

Hahaha... Drunken FA... Yet another let off for AFC players... No action for Gallas... Champions to the FA!!! I think they r 'buying' AFC for this yr EPL title!!!

 

[Stormvolution 9]

Perfect example as to why AFC ppl r SORE-LOSERS!!!

Dublin_Best_7, Manchester United fan.
Posted Today @ 16:35 View all Dublin_Best_7's posts

Gilberto is a hypocrite for coming out and saying that about Nani. Is his memery that short? Does he not remember Bergkamp making a mokery of the Newcastle defence or Henry running rings around Liverpool at Highbury? I sense a sore looser. So what the boy has skill and was enjoying himself. I'm sure if they were 4 nil against us at home the tricks would have come out.

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[Stormvolution 9]

Perfect example as to why AFC ppl r SORE-LOSERS!!!

Dublin_Best_7, Manchester United fan.
Posted Today @ 16:35 View all Dublin_Best_7's posts

Gilberto is a hypocrite for coming out and saying that about Nani. Is his memery that short? Does he not remember Bergkamp making a mokery of the Newcastle defence or Henry running rings around Liverpool at Highbury? I sense a sore looser. So what the boy has skill and was enjoying himself. I'm sure if they were 4 nil against us at home the tricks would have come out.

Source: Manchester United Your Say | Manchester Utd | English Premier League | Football News from TEAMtalk

 

[Gti]

Well in case of people coming to you at knee high, it doesn't need provocation for them to do that. In happen in the game eventhough you playing in the modest way. It will happen to player that happens to be the key player on the team. Look at Ronaldo (Ac Milan), does he provoke the opponent that he deserved to be tackle like that? I don't think so...it just that he's just to good to let loose and hold the ball too long that opponent tend to take him down in what ever mean necessary as soon he get the ball...Opponent player also have to be criticize if they become a sore loser...they are so called professional...i know they are human and meant to do mistake...but for god sake...isn't it childish to let your anger to a person who are performing well that you. If what Nani's done is been criticize, well i think the football game will be boring one day....there won't be any skill and fancy move which we the football fan crave for on every game.
No offense Gti, my comment is not intend directly to your post but i just think all the fuss on what Nani's done is just unnecessary.

yes i get what u mean, Lopot.
But just as a point of discussion, u see.
Knee high tackles happen all the time,especially to an opponent's best player.

But we need to distinguish that to Nani's case.
What Nani did was interpreted as an insult to and by the opponents.
Whether what he did amount to showboat by the audience/spectators,pundits is a subjective and different issue altogether.
And the message that everyone(that is against Nani's antics) tries to convey is, such actions attract unncessary risks to your own safety. Hence, why do it.

If you wan to showboat while in the midst of an attacking move - ie stepovers, flick ons etc - something which serves a purpose, i am sure it will negate the criticisms received.
That said, it will still attract unruly tackles from the opponents.
But at least, at the very least, it was done with a purpose.
And if the showboating serves no purpose but at the same time attracts risk, why do it. No?

I hope you get what i mean. I am not saying we shouldn't have tricks in a football game. What then, will be our entertainment, right?
What i am trying to tell is, do it at the right time, right purpose and right reason.

And the funny thing is, Brazillians think that stepovers are an insult to defenders.
Ironic ain't it?

Cheers mate.

 

[si|verfish]

That is in no way racist and Storm can bring any examples he feels like bringing. In a way, that's a perfectly valid analogy, so well done Storm. Anybody who wants to argue otherwise, I'm here all day.

Ok, back to football. It was inevitable that United would get another Premier League team. Its been like 12 consecutive or something like that. Thank you FA, you piece of shit.

But then, who cares. We are United and you have to beat the teams to win the cup. Beating better teams on the way just makes it sweeter.

On the matter of Nani "showboating". What showboating? I saw a highly skilled player trying to keep the ball away from his opponents. If the opponents were so shit as to be unable to retrieve the ball, thats their problem. Fucker whingers and sore losers as usual those Pizza Chuckers.

The real problem wasn't Nani's supposed showboating, its Arsenal's disgusting reaction to it. That's what people should have payed attention to, not a skillful player using his skill.

I know Fergie said he'll have a word with Nani. Basically I think he means to remind Nani that there are less talented cunts who will try to break your leg if you completely arse fuck them with your skill.