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Cosworth To Supply Standard Engines For Formula One Teams?

K keshy
Posted onDec 6, 2008 at 2:04 AM

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Cosworth has won the tender to supply a low-cost engine and transmission package in 2010 and beyond, Formula One’s governing body announced on Friday.Cosworth has experience in developing Formula One engines such as the V10 pictured above which supposedly revs up to 20,000rpm.

In the wake of Honda’s shock departure from the sport, the FIA said in a statement that the news confirmed its fears about the current financial format, and sent a letter to team bosses.

It is revealed that the cost to teams wanting to use the un-badged Cosworth engine option will be 2m euros, plus 5.5 million euros each season.

“The annual cost will reduce if more (than four) teams take up the option,” FIA president Max Mosley wrote.

Teams not wanting to use the standard engine have “the right to build an engine themselves”, or a de-tuned version of their current 2.4 litre V8s, but must use a standard transmission supplied by Ricardo Transmissions, a British company.

Mosley said the measures will help small teams survive, and also pave the way for the replacement of more outgoing manufacturers, “as seems likely” to be necessary.

He wants four teams to sign up the scheme by next Thursday, or the price may go up.

Source: GMM via WorldCarFans

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    Crazy Biscut
  • Dec 6, 2008
I think its a good idea for smaller teams, but does that mean the In house built engines in 2010 are V10s?
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    ephique
  • Dec 6, 2008
no~ they had long experience workin on F1 cars back in the V10 days. Pleassseee dont standardize.... Bernie is definitely not helping. Retire yourself you short, fake white haired, $&#&^@#&%& mongrel.

Besides, cosworth n ricardo r both british. Bernie's british. I smell a rotten fish.
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    milkjunkies
  • Dec 6, 2008
Cosworth rules !!!!!!!!!!
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    A1diablo
  • Dec 6, 2008
Logically I think Cosworth would make a V8, which they have substantial experience on aside from the V10. The V10 pictured is just for illustration purposes I'm sure.

Which engine will depend on which is cheaper for teams to use. Although supplying a higher cc V10(back to 3L or higher?) while capping hp and revs may mean lower running cost because engines last longer, teams need to spend more money on aero and powertrain design to switch from the current V8 back to V10.

Either way F1 is beginning to look screwed and we should now all watch A1GP! Much easier to follow and comprehend. All we need to know is to support the yellow A1GP car which wonderfully has a lot of Ferrari DNA
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    luqae
  • Dec 6, 2008
yes! f1 is going to be more boring! then the media might be interested in other racing like rallying!
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    jason
  • Dec 6, 2008
can a person buy this engine and put it in a normal car? would it still be able to reach 20,000 revs?
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    iann
  • Dec 6, 2008
I think we all know that F1 is an expensive sport, so you can't help that. That's what makes this sport interesting, its like THE FASTEST... This move is not gonna help new teams join F1, people aren't gonna like it equals less publicity then...

And the F1 teams are probably gonna make something better than any crap cosworth can make...
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    A1diablo
  • Dec 6, 2008
True, fans follow F1 because it is the fastest, the most sophisticated series out there. The engineering advancement in F1 i so good that if FIA didn't impose heavy restrictions on safety grounds after Senna's death I think F1 cars would hit well over 400km/h and pull 6-7 g's through corners. Fans are drawn to the sophistication and media spin on the drivers.

Other than that I wouldn't call any Cosworth engine 'crap' . Cosworth is highly respected and they produce among the best engines in the business. Given their budget it was remarkable that they were able to produce V10s that revved to 20,000rpm
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    A1diablo
  • Dec 6, 2008
Actually it was their 2.4L V8s that were able to comfortably run to 20,000rpm
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    hause
  • Dec 7, 2008
I hope this decision is a temporary measure to bring the sport through the financial crisis.

Besides its good that they kept the ruling that teams can develop their own engines if they wanted to, at the very least. This is so that the big three won't pull out bringing down the sport entirely. Who wants to see a race without a Prancing Horse dueling those from Munich and Woking.

Besides F1 or gran prix racing (before the days of the two world wars). Was always about the race and the perfect alliance of driver and machine. If the heart of all the machines were standard, then the sparkle of F1 will be lost. Much like what is happening to A1. Somehow, the standardization of A1 engines is the Archilles' heel of the whole A1 appeal.

And yes there is something fishy with the fact that those that got the standardization grants are British. But then again they are capable manufacturers with a lot of experience and reputation in F1 technology.
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    TOMEI-R
  • Dec 7, 2008
All this standardization will make F1 as boring as the A1 series......dont u think so...its because of the technology, the glamour, the glitz, the extreme budgets that makes F1 an interesting sport.
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    blue.taxi
  • Dec 7, 2008
or can the F1 hv a standard body shell & setup like the A1, but only hv a diffrent engine for each team to chose?
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    A1diablo
  • Dec 9, 2008
Note sure what is meant by '..standard... set up like the A1..' A1GP use the same chassis and engine. It is the complex suspension 'set up' (settings) that varies from one car to the other.

What blue.taxi is probably suggesting is what was practiced in Champcars and IRL. 2-3 engine suppliers and 2-3 chassis suppliers.

However I do hope F1 will stay at it is, sophisticated, glitzy - the pinnacle of motorsport. The drastic measures now being introduced are temporary to weather the current economic storm. They need and they are catering to the smaller, cheaper independent teams at the risk of losing the manufacturers, which they are clearly prepared to do. The manufacturers are the one that are driving costs sky high. Even if the leave now, they will always come back when the economy bounce back, as they had done in the past.
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    A1diablo
  • Dec 9, 2008
As for anyone calling A1GP boring... I honestly find that quite far from the truth. Yes, it doesn't enjoy the glitz and glamour at the level of F1 but if we're talking about the racing, it is far, far more interesting.

I have been following F1 for the last 20 years (believe it or not RTM/TV3 used to show the races late nights) and these days I find myself falling asleep midway through F1 races, quite literally. Whereas for A1GP I'm usually at the edge of my seat. One really must watch an A1GP race to appreciate the thrill. Plenty of action.

You really must watch F1 during the Senna/Prost era to understand why F1 is not quite the same as it used to be. It got quite uninteresting for me when Senna died, despite the fact that I was a big fan of Schumacher at that time.
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    Gouki
  • Dec 9, 2008
go cosworth! go cosworth! go cosworth!
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    Lennon
  • Dec 9, 2008
Bye Bye F1..... Ferrari, Mercedes and Toyota will not run a car with an Cosworth engine!!! It will be a disgrace to them.... Ferrari runs the team for the sake of fans...... Why dump money on a sport that doesn't represent the team itself??....... If any team wins, credit will only goes to Cosworth for the engine, not Ferrari, Mercedes or Toyota......... Standardisation will discourage fans around the world.....

Bernie, F1 exist becos of these dedicated teams, not your 77 years f@#k face!!!
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    A1diablo
  • Dec 10, 2008
Lets get the facts straight.

Max Mosley (not Bernie) issued a letter to all teams offering the following options:

a. Use unbadged standard engines built by Cosworth for FIA
b. Build own engines with similar technical specs to the Cosworth
c. Continue using current engines with engine freeze and parity in place.

ALL options require teams to use standard powertrains supplied by XTrac/Ricardo

That is why not all the manufacturers are leaving. The options are being offered to ensure that smaller independent teams can survive while manfacturers are not chased away. Bear in mind the manufacturers are the ones causing F1 costs to go sky high.

In any case these are temporary to weather the next few years. Once the economy picks up again it will be back to normal and the manufacturers will drive costs sky high again
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