Sepang track time

[TheModerator]

Originally posted by GT3+Mar 10 2005, 06:38 --></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (GT3 @ Mar 10 2005, 06:38 )</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-TheModerator@Mar 10 2005, 02:03
Wah GT3 you terrorlah.....pssst can give your name ah maybe I know youlah
dont be shylah you already post here you drive in MSS & MME, want to find out no problem one but lazylah but if not mistaken you are one of the chin's but which one, definetely cannot be TJ bcos its not like him to write something like that.

oh just realised u edited the post.. curious.. what do u mean its not like TJ to write something like that? something like what? [/b][/quote]
Well Im wrong you are supposed to be TJ bcos u mentioned car #17 but I never expected this of you maybe TP but not you bcos I thought all this while you were a very humble person.
Anyway if you are who u r supposed to be............I Envy you.
Eh! now drive dads GT3 what happened to your own 350Z with your initials.

 

[GT3]

Originally posted by TheModerator+Mar 10 2005, 19:15 --></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (TheModerator @ Mar 10 2005, 19:15 )</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>

Originally posted by GT3@Mar 10 2005, 06:38
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@Mar 10 2005, 02:03
Wah GT3 you terrorlah.....pssst can give your name ah maybe I know youlah
dont be shylah you already post here you drive in MSS & MME, want to find out no problem one but lazylah but if not mistaken you are one of the chin's but which one, definetely cannot be TJ bcos its not like him to write something like that.

oh just realised u edited the post.. curious.. what do u mean its not like TJ to write something like that? something like what?

Well Im wrong you are supposed to be TJ bcos u mentioned car #17 but I never expected this of you maybe TP but not you bcos I thought all this while you were a very humble person.
Anyway if you are who u r supposed to be............I Envy you.
Eh! now drive dads GT3 what happened to your own 350Z with your initials. [/b][/quote]
haha i m not gonna repeat on ur acusation of me of being not too humble (i respond to it in another forum). anyway fren i m jus here to share my driving experiance with other forummers.. i find it fun to discuss cars or driving with a bunch of ppl who have the same interest.. i m not here to show off

jus for ur info the 350z was sold.. of coz i don really drive the GT3 around but its my favourate car so i jus hav it in my profile.. its my right n i don see it as that serious to be acuse of being arrogant.. its not like i m leaking info that u all dun know..

jus relaz mate.. don take things so seriously

 

[GT3]

Originally posted by endless551+Mar 10 2005, 13:41 --></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (endless551 @ Mar 10 2005, 13:41 )</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>

Originally posted by GT3@Mar 9 2005, 21:48

Originally posted by endless551@Mar 9 2005, 13:32

Originally posted by GT3@Mar 9 2005, 00:15
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@Jan 9 2005, 16:50
SKILL MY ASS! 4wd, traction control, sticky icky tyres! you want me to list more stuff ke? try and throw a std wira on any corner in sepang like your sti on sepang. bull shit... emmph!

pimp

i dorve sti on the track before.. it aint really easy or rather pleasant to drive on the track.. it understeers like mad.. u hav to flick the car before u enter the corner n that requires some level of car control to make it fast.. but mayb its jus easier than a standard wira coz i drove a wira on the track b4 but dint really push it so cant comment on that ;)

The perception of 4wd being easy to drive is totally not true.. As wat GT3 said, its a bitch to drive on corner entry.. But the traction u get out of it sort of made up for it.. :D I believe no car is totally fool proof, it just have a higher physical limitation than the lesser cars.. Everyone can feel invincible like a true racer in one of those rally specials.. but to shed off that few seconds no doubt require some polished driving skills. But u just cant get the oomph factor out of 4wd's and fwd's in the circuit.. my single cent..

yea the combination of turbo n 4 wheel drive make exit from corner is really stunning.. its really fast.. remember i was driving evo7 on the track for a MSS race no1 seems to be able to out accelarate faster than it. but i still prefer GT3.. hehe :P its much more fun n actually much faster

Sat in a racing spec (what do u call that model loaded with bucket seats, roll cage and fire extinguisher) 996 GT3 in sepang, a modded STi is nowhere comparable.. Not even close.. those ceramic brakes r just awesome.. awesomeeee.. Handling is so neutral for a rear engine car. Its a 'must have' car for me. [/b][/quote]
its call the gt3 cup car.. its doesnt have ceramic brakes.. i don think its available for this model but even they hav i think its too exp to get it at the moment.. hmm well STI isnt too pleasant to drive (becoz of understeer) but its not too bad.. the handling of GT3 cup car isnt really nuetral.. its more oversteery actually but i m the sort of driver that prefer oversteer than understeer so i prefer the GT3.. its jus something personal.. erm mid engine cars shud be more nuetral but i m not sure coz come to think of it i haven drive any mid engine road cars or track cars in sepang b4.. so cant be sure

 

[TheModerator]

Dear TJ

Like i said in one of my post you have come clean, I had some doubts
bcos you said something about being unsure abt your times in the GT3.
Normally a racer does not forget his times. So I just wanted to know if it was really one of you chin's bcos if not then I can relay this info to the real you abt somebody masquerading as you in this forum.
To find out the truth it sometimes has to hurt. Peace be with you and your family. Like I said I really envy you guys.

Ok Im outta of here.....TheModerator has left the building.

PS: Pls dont take this last post as though am trying to polish youre apple :rolleyes:
(just a note just in case FTO reads this last post :lol: ) you know what I mean.

 

[GT3]

Originally posted by TheModerator@Mar 11 2005, 08:09
Dear TJ

Like i said in one of my post you have come clean, I had some doubts
bcos you said something about being unsure abt your times in the GT3.
Normally a racer does not forget his times. So I just wanted to know if it was really one of you chin's bcos if not then I can relay this info to the real you abt somebody masquerading as you in this forum.
To find out the truth it sometimes has to hurt. Peace be with you and your family. Like I said I really envy you guys.

Ok Im outta of here.....TheModerator has left the building.

PS: Pls dont take this last post as though am trying to polish youre apple :rolleyes:
(just a note just in case FTO reads this last post :lol: ) you know what I mean.

i dint forget actually.. jus wasnt too sure becoz it was more than half a yr i think since i drove on the track so kinda blur with the exact time..

anyway u can still talk to me in real live even though u clear ur doubts now.. it would be nice ;)

oh yea i prefer to be called GT3 instead of my name here.. so if u wanna refer to me next time jus use my nick..thanx

 

[endless551]

Originally posted by GT3+Mar 11 2005, 02:14 --></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (GT3 @ Mar 11 2005, 02:14 )</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>

Originally posted by endless551@Mar 10 2005, 13:41

Originally posted by GT3@Mar 9 2005, 21:48

Originally posted by endless551@Mar 9 2005, 13:32

Originally posted by GT3@Mar 9 2005, 00:15
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@Jan 9 2005, 16:50
SKILL MY ASS! 4wd, traction control, sticky icky tyres! you want me to list more stuff ke? try and throw a std wira on any corner in sepang like your sti on sepang. bull shit... emmph!

pimp

i dorve sti on the track before.. it aint really easy or rather pleasant to drive on the track.. it understeers like mad.. u hav to flick the car before u enter the corner n that requires some level of car control to make it fast.. but mayb its jus easier than a standard wira coz i drove a wira on the track b4 but dint really push it so cant comment on that ;)

The perception of 4wd being easy to drive is totally not true.. As wat GT3 said, its a bitch to drive on corner entry.. But the traction u get out of it sort of made up for it.. :D I believe no car is totally fool proof, it just have a higher physical limitation than the lesser cars.. Everyone can feel invincible like a true racer in one of those rally specials.. but to shed off that few seconds no doubt require some polished driving skills. But u just cant get the oomph factor out of 4wd's and fwd's in the circuit.. my single cent..

yea the combination of turbo n 4 wheel drive make exit from corner is really stunning.. its really fast.. remember i was driving evo7 on the track for a MSS race no1 seems to be able to out accelarate faster than it. but i still prefer GT3.. hehe :P its much more fun n actually much faster

Sat in a racing spec (what do u call that model loaded with bucket seats, roll cage and fire extinguisher) 996 GT3 in sepang, a modded STi is nowhere comparable.. Not even close.. those ceramic brakes r just awesome.. awesomeeee.. Handling is so neutral for a rear engine car. Its a 'must have' car for me.

its call the gt3 cup car.. its doesnt have ceramic brakes.. i don think its available for this model but even they hav i think its too exp to get it at the moment.. hmm well STI isnt too pleasant to drive (becoz of understeer) but its not too bad.. the handling of GT3 cup car isnt really nuetral.. its more oversteery actually but i m the sort of driver that prefer oversteer than understeer so i prefer the GT3.. its jus something personal.. erm mid engine cars shud be more nuetral but i m not sure coz come to think of it i haven drive any mid engine road cars or track cars in sepang b4.. so cant be sure [/b][/quote]
It definitely seemed like some sort of ceramics rather than a cast iron unit to me.. prob. he ticked on the brake options and paid extra?? not sure.. but with a brake disc almost the size of my wheels.. I have never doubt its brakin ability.

WHen I said neutral I meant car well balanced neutral on turn in which I didn't expect from a car with totally opposite polar moment of inertia would feel like... from the passenger seat, that is. I do prefer car with oversteer tendency as well. U cant actually compared a car's 'neutrality' by its engine location, thats too generalising... anyway, a car's weight distribution is never perfectly 50/50 or so .. that is static weight dist. Got to make judgement based on its overall dynamic performance. Which again, I find the Porsche's r german's engineering brilliance! ANyway, haven't got the luck to drive around in one of those, so my comments could be counterfactual.

Try catchin a slide in a mid engine car, u need lightning response. :D

 

[GT3]

Originally posted by endless551+Mar 11 2005, 09:26 --></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (endless551 @ Mar 11 2005, 09:26 )</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>

Originally posted by GT3@Mar 11 2005, 02:14

Originally posted by endless551@Mar 10 2005, 13:41

Originally posted by GT3@Mar 9 2005, 21:48

Originally posted by endless551@Mar 9 2005, 13:32

Originally posted by GT3@Mar 9 2005, 00:15
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@Jan 9 2005, 16:50
SKILL MY ASS! 4wd, traction control, sticky icky tyres! you want me to list more stuff ke? try and throw a std wira on any corner in sepang like your sti on sepang. bull shit... emmph!

pimp

i dorve sti on the track before.. it aint really easy or rather pleasant to drive on the track.. it understeers like mad.. u hav to flick the car before u enter the corner n that requires some level of car control to make it fast.. but mayb its jus easier than a standard wira coz i drove a wira on the track b4 but dint really push it so cant comment on that ;)

The perception of 4wd being easy to drive is totally not true.. As wat GT3 said, its a bitch to drive on corner entry.. But the traction u get out of it sort of made up for it.. :D I believe no car is totally fool proof, it just have a higher physical limitation than the lesser cars.. Everyone can feel invincible like a true racer in one of those rally specials.. but to shed off that few seconds no doubt require some polished driving skills. But u just cant get the oomph factor out of 4wd's and fwd's in the circuit.. my single cent..

yea the combination of turbo n 4 wheel drive make exit from corner is really stunning.. its really fast.. remember i was driving evo7 on the track for a MSS race no1 seems to be able to out accelarate faster than it. but i still prefer GT3.. hehe :P its much more fun n actually much faster

Sat in a racing spec (what do u call that model loaded with bucket seats, roll cage and fire extinguisher) 996 GT3 in sepang, a modded STi is nowhere comparable.. Not even close.. those ceramic brakes r just awesome.. awesomeeee.. Handling is so neutral for a rear engine car. Its a 'must have' car for me.

its call the gt3 cup car.. its doesnt have ceramic brakes.. i don think its available for this model but even they hav i think its too exp to get it at the moment.. hmm well STI isnt too pleasant to drive (becoz of understeer) but its not too bad.. the handling of GT3 cup car isnt really nuetral.. its more oversteery actually but i m the sort of driver that prefer oversteer than understeer so i prefer the GT3.. its jus something personal.. erm mid engine cars shud be more nuetral but i m not sure coz come to think of it i haven drive any mid engine road cars or track cars in sepang b4.. so cant be sure

It definitely seemed like some sort of ceramics rather than a cast iron unit to me.. prob. he ticked on the brake options and paid extra?? not sure.. but with a brake disc almost the size of my wheels.. I have never doubt its brakin ability.

WHen I said neutral I meant car well balanced neutral on turn in which I didn't expect from a car with totally opposite polar moment of inertia would feel like... from the passenger seat, that is. I do prefer car with oversteer tendency as well. U cant actually compared a car's 'neutrality' by its engine location, thats too generalising... anyway, a car's weight distribution is never perfectly 50/50 or so .. that is static weight dist. Got to make judgement based on its overall dynamic performance. Which again, I find the Porsche's r german's engineering brilliance! ANyway, haven't got the luck to drive around in one of those, so my comments could be counterfactual.

Try catchin a slide in a mid engine car, u need lightning response. :D [/b][/quote]
its definately not ceramic becoz when they replace the brake i was there. its cast iron. mayb better quality but for sure not ceramic. it doesnt feel like ceramic even when i drove it.

anyway come back to the handling. erm u can actually predict the handling of the car by jus knowing the engine location. mayb u can do so for a road car as most road car nowadays are set to understeer for safety reason. however there are still cars that u could guess. for instance the porsche GT3. the engine is at the rear axle so the weight it concentrated on its rear n the front end is very light. which means whenever u try to turn in the front end will really follow ur guide. thing is normally a very light front end will make a heavy rear end very oversteery. n the oversteer i meant in the previous post is that the car have this handling characteristic in entry, mid corner n also exit from corner. its the faster way to drive it. of coz i don meant very dramatic drifting.

i did catch slides in mid engine car before. jus not road cars. formula cars. yes it need lighthing response. but frankly once i drove the porsche. the oversteer in the formula car really isnt as scary.. haha..

 

[jc@]

what about a stupid stock proton 1.3??
how slow is the time for the stupid car?

 

[Rickster]

Originally posted by GT3+Mar 9 2005, 21:48 --><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(GT3 @ Mar 9 2005, 21:48 )</div><div class='quotemain'>

Originally posted by endless551@Mar 9 2005, 13:32

Originally posted by GT3@Mar 9 2005, 00:15
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@Jan 9 2005, 16:50
SKILL MY ASS! 4wd, traction control, sticky icky tyres! you want me to list more stuff ke? try and throw a std wira on any corner in sepang like your sti on sepang. bull shit... emmph!

pimp

i dorve sti on the track before.. it aint really easy or rather pleasant to drive on the track.. it understeers like mad.. u hav to flick the car before u enter the corner n that requires some level of car control to make it fast.. but mayb its jus easier than a standard wira coz i drove a wira on the track b4 but dint really push it so cant comment on that ;)

The perception of 4wd being easy to drive is totally not true.. As wat GT3 said, its a bitch to drive on corner entry.. But the traction u get out of it sort of made up for it.. :D I believe no car is totally fool proof, it just have a higher physical limitation than the lesser cars.. Everyone can feel invincible like a true racer in one of those rally specials.. but to shed off that few seconds no doubt require some polished driving skills. But u just cant get the oomph factor out of 4wd's and fwd's in the circuit.. my single cent..

yea the combination of turbo n 4 wheel drive make exit from corner is really stunning.. its really fast.. remember i was driving evo7 on the track for a MSS race no1 seems to be able to out accelarate faster than it. but i still prefer GT3.. hehe :P its much more fun n actually much faster

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Hi.......a newbie here :)

I drive a GC8 and last weekend was my first time on track..........althought I really enjoy the experince and the company of extra friendly strangers.... :P I very much agree to the quote "perception of 4wd being easy to drive is totally not true"
Needless to say, I was really surprise by the extreme understeer factor of my car and yes trying to 'flick' the car does help a little (althought it's really scary everytime I do it) ......... but the famous stock turbo(-lag) doesn't help much during exit :( ...

Ehhh.... since there's so many sifu :D here any advice on how to improve my performance and to tackle SIC corners (given my situation). of course without changing turbo leh, slick tyres leh...........



p/s: ehhh if during the last weekend track-day, I was in the way of any sifu out there, I'm sorry just trying really hard to control the understeer during corners :P

 

[GT3]

Hi.......a newbie here <!--emo&:)--><img src='style_emoticons/default/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle'
alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->

I drive a GC8 and last weekend was my first time on track..........althought I really enjoy the experince and the company of extra friendly strangers.... <!--emo&:P--><img src='style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle'
alt='tongue.gif' /><!--endemo--> I very much agree to the quote "perception of 4wd being easy to drive is totally not true"
Needless to say, I was really surprise by the extreme understeer factor of my car and yes trying to 'flick' the car does help a little (althought it's really scary everytime I do it) ......... but the famous stock turbo(-lag) doesn't help much during exit <!--emo&:(--><img src='style_emoticons/default/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle'
alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo--> ...

Ehhh.... since there's so many sifu <!--emo&:D--><img src='style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle'
alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo--> here any advice on how to improve my performance and to tackle SIC corners (given my situation). of course without changing turbo leh, slick tyres leh...........



p/s: ehhh if during the last weekend track-day, I was in the way of any sifu out there, I'm sorry just trying really hard to control the understeer during corners <!--emo&:P--><img src='style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle'
alt='tongue.gif' /><!--endemo-->

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erm as far as i can recall when u drive a turbo car on the track the timing u accelerate so that the lag can be gone must be done rightly. normally when u drove into a corner fast enuff n carry enuff speed ur revs are high enuff to maintain the running of the turbo the exit shud be fast. if u are not confident to bring the car in at higher speed well the simple action will be to accelerate earlier.

 

[xxxx]

hi guys,

mind if i ask how do u guys record ur timing in sepang?

wat device do u guys used?

thanks.

 

[QiW]

hi guys,

mind if i ask how do u guys record ur timing in sepang?

wat device do u guys used?

thanks.

yalorrr ... i oso curious how they time themselves ... whatever the time is laa .. heheehehehee ... use NOKIA PHONE stopwatch ???? hahahahahahaaaa

 

[endless551]

Timing ccould be done by sepang with rental of transponder, similar system used by F1.. Not sure about Sunday track days though.

 

[xxxx]

thanks endless,

but any other accurate methods?

 

[Fiki]

rickster u went to sepang.. ayooo.. y didnt u tell me.. can go togehter2...i also wanna sit inside ur car want to feel it....

u guys talking about GT3 porche?? comparing to sti??