Oops!? I poured Bardahl 1 into my auto tranny...

[stupidcar]

Because you are influenced by SomeFellow, you are brain washed to be suspicious of my claim that I have a beetle.

Just want you to know that I dont post lies and made up cock & bull stories like SomeFellow !

He may be jealous of me, but made you to be scapegoat of his jealousy attitude.

He knew that Im gonna cornered him so he used you, so next time be smart, dont be influenced by bad mouthing pm he sent you.....

Anyway if you really want to see my beetle, it will cost you something...

If you wanna talk no cents and nonsense, then let your suspicious be.....

Just wanna make you learn that Im not like the liar, posting 4VW beetle graveyard dead corpse nonsense.....(refer Abandoned Cars thread)

He may be able to pull a fast one on others, but not me....:thumpdown:

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Its my first trial, so I didnt know how the effects gonna be OK?

Didnt hear anyone complaining....

Cant you quote some post reference on that? Probably I overlooked and didnt read it....

Now look, this Bardahl One has been around for many years....

If there should be any "very hard to remove sludge" or bad effects, it would have been removed from the shelves long long time ago....:flybye:

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Sorry Kimi if I sounded raw and rude...

Just wanted to exchange something for something....

hahaha....:proud:

Just like poker game....

He had not seen my card, but I upped, he backed out saying got no time, so I can laugh the hell
out of his cowardness....

hahaha....

But this dude is the victim, the mastermind is behind this poker game where the mastermind is damn frustrated now!

I still don't get it. Why do you have to exchange something for something. Unless you are hiding something. So you said he is a coward, then come, show me your Beetle as soon as you saw my post, right now.
Come one, you are 44 years old, don't be childish. Calling people childish but you are actually worse.
I have known SF for awhile now, even met him in person, he isn't bad.
One can judge a reception of a person by seeing the likes or dislikes, just go and see how SF fares in this. Pretty amazing i'd say.
Talking about age, 44 years old should be able to read the instructions and think before one do something. Btw, I have my own type of common sense, i don't need someone to lecture be to do this or do that.

Cheers and have a good day.

 

[vr2turbo]

From what I learnt, Bardahl 1 is a protective layer of lubricant that clings onto to metal parts with its
polar attraction technology....

Just like those that the Castrol Magnatec has, but Bardahl 1 is in a more concentrated form & pure,
not mixed into the Castrol engine oil.

I saw the Bardahl oil less challenge, where the test run a Proton Wira from PJ to JB, then to Penang or somewhere north of Malaysia without any engine oil in the engine after treating it with Bardahl 1 and back to PJ again!.

I was so impressed, as it was done by Cycle & Carriage, with AAM officials as inspectors.

So I "guess" it can do some good for my auto transmission as well...

But before this I have tried pouring in one 350ml can into my power steering system.

Wow ! The result is super fantastic!

I have no time for your other side topics in this topic but I will reply to the actual topic at hand if it helps.
As mentioned by you Bardahl 1 was tested by C&C but that is as an engine oil additive not ATF. If usable in ATF wouldn't they test it that way and advertise it too?
Here is why. Engine internals are all moving metal parts and if it works as said, good for the engine. It might even be good for manual gear boxes as the internal are about the same and using almost similar oil except thicker viscosity.
Having said that, Auto boxes works differently. They have wet clutch submerged in the ATF and ATF is made that way to protect and run the AT boxes. Using some oil meant for other application, well I don't know what will happen. But since you have already poured that in and testing it and runs well then good for you.
However there are ATF additives in the market too, so if you require something for your Auto box, should have gone for that. Eg. Lubeguard....

 

[Izso]

Its my first trial, so I didnt know how the effects gonna be OK?

Didnt hear anyone complaining....

Cant you quote some post reference on that? Probably I overlooked and didnt read it....

Now look, this Bardahl One has been around for many years....

If there should be any "very hard to remove sludge" or bad effects, it would have been removed from the shelves long long time ago....:flybye:

I don't know what problem you have with other members but this stops here. Any more and warnings will be issued. If you truly are 44 years old, talking to 2 much young 20+ blokes and challenging them is kinda childish. Act your age and be done with this argumentative attitude.

Engine temperatures are much higher than ATF so if this additive was designed for the engine, then it should stay in the engine. You must know by now that ATF has much thicker viscosity compared to engine oil. Ever ask yourself why? Adding in something that increases the viscosity or modifies the oil properties, or even 'cling' onto metal (I have no idea how it works, i'm just quoting you) means it'll probably run smoother. True. Slip more too. Clutch probably will wear out faster too since it can't engage properly. If you read about how Lubeguard and other ATF additives work, they prevent slippage and all. A little slippery additive in the engine might be useful but in the atf.. good luck.

So you ask if you should add another 100ml more? Sure. Add it. I'm very interested to know when it'll break down.

 

[vr2turbo]

To be frank, I had already tested on manual gearbox with Bardahl 2 already...(Bardahl 2 is of thicker viscocity)

The results are very promising, in terms of reducing noise and responsiveness, not to mention the protection on the metal parts especially the bearings and gear itself.

The viscocity of Bardahl 1 is only slightly thicker than the ATF, so I "guess" it wont generate much
damage as it flows just as quickly as the ATF

After running it for more than 3 days, I now intend to add another 100ml ....

What do you guys think?

Based on what they were made for, I would have tried Bardahl 1 in my MT box but not Bardahl 2. Manual Gear oil used to be straight 90 viscosity, now is 80w-90 and I am paying good money to get 75w-90 and then add Bardahl 2 to thicken it again?
Bardahl 2 is of thick viscosity to prevent oil burning, means getting through worn pistons and rings.

Well, it is your auto box, add what you want. Your box could break down or run better, then you would have made a great discovery, probably can sell the idea back to C&C....

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I don't know what problem you have with other members but this stops here. Any more and warnings will be issued. If you truly are 44 years old, talking to 2 much young 20+ blokes and challenging them is kinda childish. Act your age and be done with this argumentative attitude.

Engine temperatures are much higher than ATF so if this additive was designed for the engine, then it should stay in the engine. You must know by now that ATF has much thicker viscosity compared to engine oil. Ever ask yourself why? Adding in something that increases the viscosity or modifies the oil properties, or even 'cling' onto metal (I have no idea how it works, i'm just quoting you) means it'll probably run smoother. True. Slip more too. Clutch probably will wear out faster too since it can't engage properly. If you read about how Lubeguard and other ATF additives work, they prevent slippage and all. A little slippery additive in the engine might be useful but in the atf.. good luck.

So you ask if you should add another 100ml more? Sure. Add it. I'm very interested to know when it'll break down.

Yup, was trying to explain on the clutch slipping. My cars are manuals but seen too many damaged auto boxes at my mechanics place, so my latest addition is an auto for my wifey, so have to really take care...

 

[fazidk]

Adoooiiiii x need to 'fight2' lor..we all in zth like 'family' so if one disagree then x point posting in d 1st place..purpose of opening a certain subject is for DISCUSSIONS n OPINIONS...thus d latter being various both positive n negative (some wld agree others may x)...that's d whole idea rite..

Bro Lesley...since ur already trying d oil out n u say so far x problems just give us feedback here..I x try :) it but it'll b interesting to know d outcome on ur part...cheers

 

[Izso]

If you haven't noticed, stupidcar and SF have not replied your nonsense already because I've deleted their replies and have sent them warnings already. Kindly refrain from further accusations and assumptions otherwise I will be forced to do the same with you or more.

As mentioned already - people here are pinpointing your childish behaviour and your immediate response is to challenge and throw spanners into an already failing mechanism. Demanding proof for what? You want to bring down yourself to their level? Or are you really 18 years old and pretending to be a 44 year old? Whatever the case, I'm quite tired of arguing with you so this will be my last note to you. Any further communication out of topic will be immediately deleted. Retaliation threads will be deleted and followed with a suspension of ID.

If you have something to say, PM me. I'm open for discussion. Hanging your laundry in public is just making you look bad.

 

[john_unai]

this thread has deviated too far from it's title lar, suddenly become personal attack & fighting thread.
I think we can improve postings by:-
- refrain from name calling
- mutual respect for different point of view
- avoid foul language
- confine to the subject and no personal attack

after all i guess Tom create this forum for us to share & discuss, not to fight. so, cheers

 

[vr2turbo]

this thread has deviated too far from it's title lar, suddenly become personal attack & fighting thread.
I think we can improve postings by:-
- refrain from name calling
- mutual respect for different point of view
- avoid foul language
- confine to the subject and no personal attack

after all i guess Tom create this forum for us to share & discuss, not to fight. so, cheers

Agree brother.
However some people cannot take different point of view, not saying this topic, but have seen many in other topics too. As mentioned, for anything for that matter, there are always pros and cons, just as there is two sides to a coin.

Ah! we try to confine to topic, but sometimes our alignment do run out, but in a good way.....hahahaha

Okay, better back to topic if not we kena warning also.....

 

[DanzEterna]

chill guys...we're all gentlement here....no name callings watsoever.
wanna argue go to FB & argue not in ZTH ok.

back to topic pls.

 

[LesleyAprotto]

Back to the topic,

Today, Im going for service my car, will change the engine oil as it has reached almost 14,000km mark.

At the same time Im gonna drain my ATF to replace the standard 4 litre fluid.

Wont add any additive yet, but will be seriously considering adding 250ml of Bardahl 1 in 5,000 or 7,000km time.

 

[john_unai]

Agree brother.
However some people cannot take different point of view, not saying this topic, but have seen many in other topics too. As mentioned, for anything for that matter, there are always pros and cons, just as there is two sides to a coin.

Ah! we try to confine to topic, but sometimes our alignment do run out, but in a good way.....hahahaha

Okay, better back to topic if not we kena warning also.....

as long as it in good way than ok ma
cannot straight all the time, otherwise no fun ma
aiya, me oso not confine to d topic liao

 

[vr2turbo]

Back to the topic,

Today, Im going for service my car, will change the engine oil as it has reached almost 14,000km mark.

At the same time Im gonna drain my ATF to replace the standard 4 litre fluid.

Wont add any additive yet, but will be seriously considering adding 250ml of Bardahl 1 in 5,000 or 7,000km time.

ATF pan drain is about 4L, but there are still ATF in the system, torque converter and so on.
But since you are going to add back the additives again, then just do an oil pan change. To remove completely you will need to do a flush, requiring about 12L

 

[cvkit17]

Back to the topic,

Today, Im going for service my car, will change the engine oil as it has reached almost 14,000km mark.

At the same time Im gonna drain my ATF to replace the standard 4 litre fluid.

Wont add any additive yet, but will be seriously considering adding 250ml of Bardahl 1 in 5,000 or 7,000km time.

Instead of using Bardahl 1 in something that isnt meant for it, why not just use a good brand ATF oil? Then you'll have good protection to your gearbox and at the same time you have nothing to worry.

And I remembered that you poured bardahl 1 into the power steering fluid. What's the purpose?

 

[LesleyAprotto]

ATF pan drain is about 4L, but there are still ATF in the system, torque converter and so on.
But since you are going to add back the additives again, then just do an oil pan change. To remove completely you will need to do a flush, requiring about 12L

Actually I have a better way to flush the ATF

No need to use the flushing machine as it will require 12 litres of ATF

Just imagine brand new ATF costing RM40 per litre is used to drain it?

RM480 bro !

The more cost saving way is by dismantling the hose connected oil cooler, both the inlet and outlet
hose, then use the air nozzle to pump in hi pressured air into the system.

Then the air pressure will push out most of the ATF in the system.

By doing this you only need to top up about 6.25 litres only.


I only do this type of flushing every 200,000km

Whereby the normal 4 litres change every 60,000 or 70,000km

As usual, filter and gasket is changed too.

 

[vr2turbo]

Instead of using Bardahl 1 in something that isnt meant for it, why not just use a good brand ATF oil? Then you'll have good protection to your gearbox and at the same time you have nothing to worry.

And I remembered that you poured bardahl 1 into the power steering fluid. What's the purpose?

There are also made for ATF additives...