Oops!? I poured Bardahl 1 into my auto tranny...

[Izso]

If you haven't noticed, stupidcar and SF have not replied your nonsense already because I've deleted their replies and have sent them warnings already. Kindly refrain from further accusations and assumptions otherwise I will be forced to do the same with you or more.

As mentioned already - people here are pinpointing your childish behaviour and your immediate response is to challenge and throw spanners into an already failing mechanism. Demanding proof for what? You want to bring down yourself to their level? Or are you really 18 years old and pretending to be a 44 year old? Whatever the case, I'm quite tired of arguing with you so this will be my last note to you. Any further communication out of topic will be immediately deleted. Retaliation threads will be deleted and followed with a suspension of ID.

If you have something to say, PM me. I'm open for discussion. Hanging your laundry in public is just making you look bad.

 

[john_unai]

this thread has deviated too far from it's title lar, suddenly become personal attack & fighting thread.
I think we can improve postings by:-
- refrain from name calling
- mutual respect for different point of view
- avoid foul language
- confine to the subject and no personal attack

after all i guess Tom create this forum for us to share & discuss, not to fight. so, cheers

 

[vr2turbo]

this thread has deviated too far from it's title lar, suddenly become personal attack & fighting thread.
I think we can improve postings by:-
- refrain from name calling
- mutual respect for different point of view
- avoid foul language
- confine to the subject and no personal attack

after all i guess Tom create this forum for us to share & discuss, not to fight. so, cheers

Agree brother.
However some people cannot take different point of view, not saying this topic, but have seen many in other topics too. As mentioned, for anything for that matter, there are always pros and cons, just as there is two sides to a coin.

Ah! we try to confine to topic, but sometimes our alignment do run out, but in a good way.....hahahaha

Okay, better back to topic if not we kena warning also.....

 

[DanzEterna]

chill guys...we're all gentlement here....no name callings watsoever.
wanna argue go to FB & argue not in ZTH ok.

back to topic pls.

 

[LesleyAprotto]

Back to the topic,

Today, Im going for service my car, will change the engine oil as it has reached almost 14,000km mark.

At the same time Im gonna drain my ATF to replace the standard 4 litre fluid.

Wont add any additive yet, but will be seriously considering adding 250ml of Bardahl 1 in 5,000 or 7,000km time.

 

[john_unai]

Agree brother.
However some people cannot take different point of view, not saying this topic, but have seen many in other topics too. As mentioned, for anything for that matter, there are always pros and cons, just as there is two sides to a coin.

Ah! we try to confine to topic, but sometimes our alignment do run out, but in a good way.....hahahaha

Okay, better back to topic if not we kena warning also.....

as long as it in good way than ok ma
cannot straight all the time, otherwise no fun ma
aiya, me oso not confine to d topic liao

 

[vr2turbo]

Back to the topic,

Today, Im going for service my car, will change the engine oil as it has reached almost 14,000km mark.

At the same time Im gonna drain my ATF to replace the standard 4 litre fluid.

Wont add any additive yet, but will be seriously considering adding 250ml of Bardahl 1 in 5,000 or 7,000km time.

ATF pan drain is about 4L, but there are still ATF in the system, torque converter and so on.
But since you are going to add back the additives again, then just do an oil pan change. To remove completely you will need to do a flush, requiring about 12L

 

[cvkit17]

Back to the topic,

Today, Im going for service my car, will change the engine oil as it has reached almost 14,000km mark.

At the same time Im gonna drain my ATF to replace the standard 4 litre fluid.

Wont add any additive yet, but will be seriously considering adding 250ml of Bardahl 1 in 5,000 or 7,000km time.

Instead of using Bardahl 1 in something that isnt meant for it, why not just use a good brand ATF oil? Then you'll have good protection to your gearbox and at the same time you have nothing to worry.

And I remembered that you poured bardahl 1 into the power steering fluid. What's the purpose?

 

[LesleyAprotto]

ATF pan drain is about 4L, but there are still ATF in the system, torque converter and so on.
But since you are going to add back the additives again, then just do an oil pan change. To remove completely you will need to do a flush, requiring about 12L

Actually I have a better way to flush the ATF

No need to use the flushing machine as it will require 12 litres of ATF

Just imagine brand new ATF costing RM40 per litre is used to drain it?

RM480 bro !

The more cost saving way is by dismantling the hose connected oil cooler, both the inlet and outlet
hose, then use the air nozzle to pump in hi pressured air into the system.

Then the air pressure will push out most of the ATF in the system.

By doing this you only need to top up about 6.25 litres only.


I only do this type of flushing every 200,000km

Whereby the normal 4 litres change every 60,000 or 70,000km

As usual, filter and gasket is changed too.

 

[vr2turbo]

Instead of using Bardahl 1 in something that isnt meant for it, why not just use a good brand ATF oil? Then you'll have good protection to your gearbox and at the same time you have nothing to worry.

And I remembered that you poured bardahl 1 into the power steering fluid. What's the purpose?

There are also made for ATF additives...

 

[DanzEterna]

Back to the topic,

Today, Im going for service my car, will change the engine oil as it has reached almost 14,000km mark.

At the same time Im gonna drain my ATF to replace the standard 4 litre fluid.

Wont add any additive yet, but will be seriously considering adding 250ml of Bardahl 1 in 5,000 or 7,000km time.

better drain that ATF fast before it makes more damage to your gbox...in future try to avoid additives in ATF & engine oil.

 

[LesleyAprotto]

Instead of using Bardahl 1 in something that isnt meant for it, why not just use a good brand ATF oil? Then you'll have good protection to your gearbox and at the same time you have nothing to worry.

And I remembered that you poured bardahl 1 into the power steering fluid. What's the purpose?

Bardahl 1 function is to protect all moving metal parts, be it in engine or elsewhere.

Since the power steering system and the auto transmission has also got moving metal parts, why not?

I have tried better ATF, the standard ATF we are using is I think 7.22 grade

Im not too sure, I tried the 7.26 grade used for CLK auto transmission.

Damn good, damn slippery feel of the oil, but cost more, much more.

IM only trying to experiment a cheaper way to increase the a better ride and better protection thats all.

Imagine if C&C and run the engine without oil to long distances, what protection can we have when our auto transmission is temporary leaking and run of ouf ATF ?

But before I experiment anything, I do research first, pour little quantity and add on....

 

[vr2turbo]

better drain that ATF fast before it makes more damage to your gbox...in future try to avoid additives in ATF & engine oil.

Can use additives if pocket got too much, but use the right ones for the right application....

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Bardahl 1 function is to protect all moving metal parts, be it in engine or elsewhere.

Since the power steering system and the auto transmission has also got moving metal parts, why not?

I have tried better ATF, the standard ATF we are using is I think 7.22 grade

Im not too sure, I tried the 7.26 grade used for CLK auto transmission.

Damn good, damn slippery feel of the oil, but cost more, much more.

IM only trying to experiment a cheaper way to increase the a better ride and better protection thats all.

Imagine if C&C and run the engine without oil to long distances, what protection can we have when our auto transmission is temporary leaking and run of ouf ATF ?

But before I experiment anything, I do research first, pour little quantity and add on....

As same message to bro. Danz, use the right additives for right application. Bardahl 1 is designed for use in engine not with ATF for auto boxes.
Adding a little to try is experiment not research....

 

[cvkit17]

Bardahl 1 function is to protect all moving metal parts, be it in engine or elsewhere.

Since the power steering system and the auto transmission has also got moving metal parts, why not?

I have tried better ATF, the standard ATF we are using is I think 7.22 grade

Im not too sure, I tried the 7.26 grade used for CLK auto transmission.

Damn good, damn slippery feel of the oil, but cost more, much more.

IM only trying to experiment a cheaper way to increase the a better ride and better protection thats all.

Imagine if C&C and run the engine without oil to long distances, what protection can we have when our auto transmission is temporary leaking and run of ouf ATF ?

But before I experiment anything, I do research first, pour little quantity and add on....

The fluid in power steering isnt to lubricate the parts but it is to function as hydraulic fluid which is to exert force to steer the wheels. In a sense, it doesnt help...:hmmmm:

Danny,

Im not too easily influenced by people saying that by adding another 100ml will cause my gearbox to breakdown...

I only will laugh to his opinion....

Not trying to boast, I drove few hundred times more km than he does.

So we only accept facts after we have done our research.

Not thru some threats and warnings....

He thinks that I will be scared after his warnings, after all he is just trying to cover his and his friends s-holes from being exposed by me.

Imagine, his friends can simply post some false accusation on me and run away and hide?

After hiding, the mod comes out to warn me and asked me to close this subject?

Really WTF ?!

If you are not affected by other people's opinion that the GB will spoil, then why are you so worried anyway? You've done your experiment, then just conclude it happily and hope that the bardahl 1 would do more good than harm. Just stick back to the topic. Perhaps you can post more constructive replies with pictures of your experiments, data, how you did it, results, outcome, etc rather than bombing here and there.

Just set all personal issues aside. All of you. We are here to discuss, not bashing each other and no point challenging each other coz this is a forum. A place to discuss. If there's disagreement, one doesnt has to agree to disagree as he could just stick to his own perspective and beliefs and leave the thread instead of trying to prove to others that he is right.

In the end, if he is right and those who did not listen are wrong, he can have the privilege to laugh at them and dont have to concur to any losses.

Isnt that much, much easier? Cheers

 

[TitanRev]

LA, use air to blow out old ATF? Woh! then you make sure when you pour in new ATF there's no air pockets in the box itself or in the TC. air pockets causes hot spots in the box and uneven temp inside the box ATF max temp and air max temp is different plus air is compressible you will have pressure change in the TC due to air. That's the reason why we use flushing machine and not high pressure air hose to flush.

 

[vr2turbo]

LA, use air to blow out old ATF? Woh! then you make sure when you pour in new ATF there's no air pockets in the box itself or in the TC. air pockets causes hot spots in the box and uneven temp inside the box ATF max temp and air max temp is different plus air is compressible you will have pressure change in the TC due to air. That's the reason why we use flushing machine and not high pressure air hose to flush.

I was reading that too, but won't want to answer since he has been doing that all these while and no harm to his gear box.....

 

[YYC]

just allow me to ask a side question about power steering fluid. What does it mean when there is a whining noise in the steering system when i turn the steering? Air in the steering fluid? What is the proper steering fluid change interval?

 

[TitanRev]

YYC, 40K change once. The whinning sound only appear when you full lock the steering? or even when turning. It's a sign of the steering pump dying. The bearing..

 

[YYC]

YYC, 40K change once. The whinning sound only appear when you full lock the steering? or even when turning. It's a sign of the steering pump dying. The bearing..

The noise appears only when full lock.

 

[stupidcar]

The noise appears only when full lock.

Normal.