JIC vs HKS vs Tein vs Buddyclub

[TonyChopper]

Yoww..
Im gonna upgrade my suspension to full adjustables (hi lo soft hard)
So can u guys tell me waddya think bout these brands?
Share with me the pros and cons or ur ride experience (comfort lvl, pek corner blabla)

I heard JIC is abit too hard but very steady pom pi pi..
As for HKS hipermax heard its all good but there's a bit noise at the rear after some time...
Tein HA/RA?.. err..
Buddyclub?

Anyway... just give me some advice for me to make the best selection out of these 4..

THX yo

 

[lightningfield]

go for JIC magic!

 

[HanafyEG]

Tein RA, Tein RS

 

[TonyChopper]

good in both handling and comfortable?

 

[lightningfield]

JIC magic is not that hard i think... but anyway tony its up to you to choose! cheers!

 

[TonyChopper]

haha actually I got great offers for all 4... very hard to choose...
I dun mind hard... just dun want something bouncey...
So u r using JIC i guess.. how was it? what the spring rate u set for it

 

[lightningfield]

naaa tony im using GAB for my EF. but been on an EK with B18CR with JIC adjustables. Very much impressed with the performance and rebound rate. Bouncy? ermmm GAB is bouncy!! hehe. but not JIC. Hey how about titan? i might want to get 1 set later on. fully customized to your desired spec.

u in jb tony? which part? my family is in tmn perling. im in kuantan heheh

 

[TonyChopper]

me in Majidee...
Not getting Titan... they are great but I have to go to KL to get them tuned, service blabla.. too troublesome..
I heard the non japan GAB is bouncy... and not really reliable.. but when I took my friends wira for a ride... I find it quite ok... Not as bad as what I've been told..
Mmm JIC looks sweet.. and I get alot of good feedbacks bout how good it handles...
Im using Apexi N1 and I like them... but too bad when I got them from a chopshop they only got 1 pair front = . =... Im using Mugen for the rear but I think they're too soft...
HAHA.. anyway thx for yo feedbacks and hopefully when u back in JB to visit yo family... we can meet up to yum cha .. ^^

 

[SaDeLlIx]

chasis & engine weight have to be consider with the spring rate.... experienced evo 2 JIC on satria mivec 1.3 chasis.... very bouncy normal driving... but then very stable at high speed conering(SIC).. manyak shiook oooo.....

 

[J101]

out of those 4, ive only tried TEIN. i cannot comment or give my opinion based on other ppl's car or based on what ive heard. you can only evaluate this if you have the same car, setup and application to be able to comment personally. street and track differs bigtime.

if u read the latest HYPERTUNE, hopefully TEIN will open a service centre in Malaysia soon. If they do, TEIN would be the best option to take. i would rather think the best to have a suspension setup with warranty and still able to get the best after service after warranty void for long term use.

have a good weekend.

 

[udengfahlawi]

hopefully the malaysian Tein will also come with Malaysian cost ler....

 

[J101]

service centre bro, not factory.

 

[ace79]

out of those 4, ive only tried TEIN. i cannot comment or give my opinion based on other ppl's car or based on what ive heard. you can only evaluate this if you have the same car, setup and application to be able to comment personally. street and track differs bigtime.

if u read the latest HYPERTUNE, hopefully TEIN will open a service centre in Malaysia soon. If they do, TEIN would be the best option to take. i would rather think the best to have a suspension setup with warranty and still able to get the best after service after warranty void for long term use.

have a good weekend.

yeah, that was stated in latest issue of Hypertune. They're going to offer localised suspension packages, mostly for local cars, i.e Proton, Melaka - made Hondas etc. the top level ones would still come direct from Japan. most probably if you upgrade to Tein, you will get the grip and pek corner ability, but in terms of comfort for daily use, you'll lose some lah. when u drive over rutted roads ( plenty in KL ), you'll feel like the suspension doesn't have enough stroke, and over roads that's the pavement is not level etc, you'll get the same feeling as well. but when it comes to pek, sure ok one. Many ppl swear by Tein HA's ( my pals here at Subang, KL, Johor and over the causeway at SG use 'em ) for the pek corner ability. Come June, if what they report in Hypertune is correct, we no longer have to drive to SG to get our Tein's serviced, N1 should be an approved, official Tein service centre, that' s another plus point of you get the Teins. But Titan isn't bad too. One minor prob I've heard about Titan is the main man, Richard ( if I'm not wrong ), can be quite moody sometimes, especially when he's busy machining stuffs. Price is not bad, circa RM 2800 for EG / EK applications. I've heard plenty of good words from Titaned cars, only major prob is that you have to go back a few times to get the desired feel for the suspension settings. Owner can adjust high - low, but for the damping, must go back to Titan lah, whereas, for Tein, you yourself can turn the knobs to your own taste, if got EDFC, wah, simply park your car beside the road, reset the damping properties, then drive out and start pek-king corners! The rest of the brands, will be a bit leceh when it comes to servicing lah.

 

[udengfahlawi]

service centre bro, not factory.

i read in the magazine it said they gonna produce Tein customized for malaysian road, no?....possibly cheaper than japanese Tein...

 

[amdfaisal]

using TEIN flex... nice man... but you lose some comfort la... drove a stock perdana V6 and compared to my ride... hard la my ride compared to this perdana... no wonder frens complained hahaha...

otherwise... can the EDFC setting be done while the car is moving? well you can actually because i did it once or twice but i suppose there will be some iff-effects... does anybody know what are the ill-effects? tried to search on the net... could not find la

 

[TonyChopper]

Most prolly i will get HKS hipermax.. cos i can send them to Sg for servicing..
I wun get tein HA... cos if i were to sacrifice ride comfort... I might as well get JIC which is abit more harsh than HA.. but handles better than HA..
Flex, RA, Superstreet, Rs... I dun have them right now but not going to buy new ones also =.=" ... I very very poor =.=

I still like apexi n1 alot... Unfortunately I was not able to get the rear ones..
Anyone using or used this b4?

 

[HanafyEG]

tein type flex, ra, rs are meant for circuit driving as well as street racing..so the spring rate is quite high and hard...superstreet is meant for normal road drive..so its quite comfortable and affordable and also increase stability and handling of the car. type ha has stop production already

 

[ace79]

Most prolly i will get HKS hipermax.. cos i can send them to Sg for servicing..
I wun get tein HA... cos if i were to sacrifice ride comfort... I might as well get JIC which is abit more harsh than HA.. but handles better than HA..
Flex, RA, Superstreet, Rs... I dun have them right now but not going to buy new ones also =.=" ... I very very poor =.=

I still like apexi n1 alot... Unfortunately I was not able to get the rear ones..
Anyone using or used this b4?

one of my SG pals is using Hipermax II on his EK saloon, his gripe is the quality of the dampers, looks a bit low - ya one after a close to 1 year usage. he did recommend Tein HA, now replaced with RA I think, which responds well to Pasir Gudang circuit, damn tricky track for time attacks! i trust his judgement, since he's one of the major customer of Choon's Motorworks, which prolly is SG's no.1 VTEC workshop. Tein Flex also ok lah, but you might find it slightly lacking for track duty + semi slick tyres. amdfaisal, that's not a good thing to do! better check the system by doing system settings again, this time not while driving! best way is to have someone personally have his ears close to the EDFC motors, see whether the motor sounds a bit 'tired' or worked - out lah. TonyChopper, since you're close to SG, better look around there, sometimes these SG boys ( the uninitiated ones ) go buy the top - level suspension without realising that it'll be a bit harsh for road usage ( and sometimes this ppl dunno how to set 'em properly ), use a few months then they'll let 'em go at a good price. My pal over there did inform me of Type RA for sale, but that was 2 - 3 months ago ( sold off already ) at about SGD 1.4k, only about RM 2.8k++ ( that amount can only get Type HA at SS Racing woo.. ) my honest opinion : better save up lah, then go buy one very good set of suspension with spare springs ( keep one set for daily use / one set for track duties ) that you can get serviced by an authorised dealer. to me, the best bet for you is either Tein or HKS Hipermax lah.

 

[amdfaisal]

ace79,

Actually i can hear the motor sound when adjusting the damping rate... seems ok la to me but will never adjust the damping rate while moving again la...

was desperate last time... battling this camry down genting so need to adjust damping rate on the fly heheh

 

[TonyChopper]

Here's some comparison base on their design (correct me if I'm wrong)

Apexi N1: Anodised aluminium body (lighter), big piston, better weldings, 13-step ride adjustment, dual way height adjustment (recommended way, maximum suspension travel)

HKS hipermax II: aluminium body, good weldings, very quality top mount, 30step ride adjustment!! ride height adjustable but will affect the spring compression (less suspension travel)

Tein RA: Top model from Tein, aluminium body, quality top mount, big piston,
16step ride adjustment, height adjustable but will affect the spring compression

JIC: Aluminium body, big piston, 15 way ride adjustment, The ride height is adjustable separate from the spring perch giving you maximum suspension travel at any setting. This also allows for proper corner weighting of the vehicle without effecting spring preload settings. Longer lower mount than HA and bigger piston than HA