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yeah, same here, need to change my tires soon, just contemplating MT's or AT's only... sigh... and i need some offsets also...sigh...

and i dunno wether the wider tire would give it a wider stance anot... hmm...
 
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What makes a 4WD a 4WD?
Four wheel drive vehicles come in all shapes, sizes and body styles with different types of features and equipment. However, there are several basic functions that all 4WDrives have in common.

Drivetrain

A 4WD can be a constant 4WD, part-time 4WD or both. An example of a constant 4WD is a Range Rover. It is always in 4WD and cannot select 2WD at all. A Toyota Tacoma is an example of a part-time 4WD, which means that it can switch between 2WD and 4WD.

A Mitsubishi Pajero is an example of a 4WD that can be both a constant 4WD and a part-time 4WD. It can select 2WD, constant 4WD and locked 4WD. The difference between the Patrol and the Pajero is that the Pajero has a center differential. A center differential allows 4WD to be used on normal roads (constant 4WD) and can be locked for off-road use (part-time 4WD). The "axle/transmission windup" text below explains why a part-time 4WD cannot be driven in 4WD on the bitumen.

Axle/Transmission Windup

When a 4WD is traveling in a straight line all four wheels rotate at the same speed, but during cornering each wheel travels at a different speed due to the radius of the turn. All vehicles have a differential on the front and rear axles to allow the wheels on the same axle to rotate at a different speed. Constant 4WD’s have a central differential fitted to allow for different speeds between front and back wheels, but most part-time four wheel drives do not.

When a part-time 4WD (without a center differential) is in 4WD an attempts to corner on bitumen, all wheels need to rotate at different speeds, but without a centre differential they cannot. This creates the phenomena called "axle windup" or "transmission windup". High strain is placed on the drive shafts and transmission, eventually causing one of two things to happen. Either one of the wheels slips or spins to overcome the stress or the drive-shaft/transmission breaks. This is why part time 4WD’s should never select 4WD on paved surfaces.

Constant 4WD’s have a central differential within the transmission to overcome this problem. However once in the dirt a constant four wheel drive can be bogged with only one wheel spinning. This is why they have a central differential lock that stops the action of the center diff and makes it like a part-time four wheel drive in 4WD mode. The center diff lock should never be used on paved roads or non-slip surfaces for the reasons mentioned above.

In reality, a 4WD is only a two wheel drive with one front and one back wheel driving when traction is lost. One wheel on each axle spins while the other receives no drive at all due to the action of the differential. The exception to this is when a limited slip or locking differential is installed. A limited slip diff allows a limited amount of drive to be applied to the stationary wheel before the other wheel on the same axle spins. A locking diff allows no slip at all and both wheels on the same axle turn at the same speed, regardless of the amount of traction.

High/Low Range

To enable a 4WD to travel at lower speeds while traveling on rough terrain it needs lower gear ratios. Not all 4WD’s have low range gearing and this restricts their ability to tackle rough terrain. However 4WD’s that lack low range gearing are generally not built for severe off-road conditions or sometimes have a "crawler" 1st gear to compensate for the lack of low range gearing.

The high range ratios in 4WD mode are the same as the gear ratios in 2WD. When low range 4WD is selected, the gear ratios are approximately half that of high range, although the exact ratio varies for each vehicle manufacturer.

For example this means that if an engine speed of 3000 rpm in high range fourth gear is 65 mph, then in low range at the same engine speed and the same gear, the speed would be around 30 mph.

Some points to note about low range gearing are:

You cannot select low range in 2WD mode in most cases.

You do not have to use low range as soon as you put the vehicle in 4WD, but only if the terrain requires it.

On most vehicles you have to be stationary when changing from high to low range, check your owners manual for your particular vehicle.

A handy hint when reversing with your vehicle while towing is to select low range 4WD to be able to move very slowly without having to slip the clutch. However you can only do this if you have a constant 4WD or your part-time 4WD is fitted with free-wheeling hubs AND they are not locked in, otherwise you will cause transmission windup.

Free Wheeling Hubs

If your vehicle is fitted with free wheeling hubs, you will need to lock them in before selecting 4WD. The free wheeling hub connects the front wheel to the front axle allowing it to be driven when four wheel drive is selected.

Free wheeling hubs are fitted to reduce wear on the front diff and drive shaft, and to (marginally) help improve fuel economy when it is in 2WD. Permanent 4WD's do not have free wheeling hubs as they are always in 4WD and need the front wheels to be permanently connected to the axle.

If you select 4WD without the freewheeling hubs locked in, then you will only be in 2WD, even though the 4WD dash light indicator (if fitted) will show 4WD. Even experienced 4WDrivers make this common mistake of forgetting to lock the freewheeling hubs.

i got it off another posting from another website

Bump: What makes a 4WD a 4WD?
Four wheel drive vehicles come in all shapes, sizes and body styles with different types of features and equipment. However, there are several basic functions that all 4WDrives have in common.

Drivetrain

A 4WD can be a constant 4WD, part-time 4WD or both. An example of a constant 4WD is a Range Rover. It is always in 4WD and cannot select 2WD at all. A Toyota Tacoma is an example of a part-time 4WD, which means that it can switch between 2WD and 4WD.

A Mitsubishi Pajero is an example of a 4WD that can be both a constant 4WD and a part-time 4WD. It can select 2WD, constant 4WD and locked 4WD. The difference between the Patrol and the Pajero is that the Pajero has a center differential. A center differential allows 4WD to be used on normal roads (constant 4WD) and can be locked for off-road use (part-time 4WD). The "axle/transmission windup" text below explains why a part-time 4WD cannot be driven in 4WD on the bitumen.

Axle/Transmission Windup

When a 4WD is traveling in a straight line all four wheels rotate at the same speed, but during cornering each wheel travels at a different speed due to the radius of the turn. All vehicles have a differential on the front and rear axles to allow the wheels on the same axle to rotate at a different speed. Constant 4WD’s have a central differential fitted to allow for different speeds between front and back wheels, but most part-time four wheel drives do not.

When a part-time 4WD (without a center differential) is in 4WD an attempts to corner on bitumen, all wheels need to rotate at different speeds, but without a centre differential they cannot. This creates the phenomena called "axle windup" or "transmission windup". High strain is placed on the drive shafts and transmission, eventually causing one of two things to happen. Either one of the wheels slips or spins to overcome the stress or the drive-shaft/transmission breaks. This is why part time 4WD’s should never select 4WD on paved surfaces.

Constant 4WD’s have a central differential within the transmission to overcome this problem. However once in the dirt a constant four wheel drive can be bogged with only one wheel spinning. This is why they have a central differential lock that stops the action of the center diff and makes it like a part-time four wheel drive in 4WD mode. The center diff lock should never be used on paved roads or non-slip surfaces for the reasons mentioned above.

In reality, a 4WD is only a two wheel drive with one front and one back wheel driving when traction is lost. One wheel on each axle spins while the other receives no drive at all due to the action of the differential. The exception to this is when a limited slip or locking differential is installed. A limited slip diff allows a limited amount of drive to be applied to the stationary wheel before the other wheel on the same axle spins. A locking diff allows no slip at all and both wheels on the same axle turn at the same speed, regardless of the amount of traction.

High/Low Range

To enable a 4WD to travel at lower speeds while traveling on rough terrain it needs lower gear ratios. Not all 4WD’s have low range gearing and this restricts their ability to tackle rough terrain. However 4WD’s that lack low range gearing are generally not built for severe off-road conditions or sometimes have a "crawler" 1st gear to compensate for the lack of low range gearing.

The high range ratios in 4WD mode are the same as the gear ratios in 2WD. When low range 4WD is selected, the gear ratios are approximately half that of high range, although the exact ratio varies for each vehicle manufacturer.

For example this means that if an engine speed of 3000 rpm in high range fourth gear is 65 mph, then in low range at the same engine speed and the same gear, the speed would be around 30 mph.

Some points to note about low range gearing are:

You cannot select low range in 2WD mode in most cases.

You do not have to use low range as soon as you put the vehicle in 4WD, but only if the terrain requires it.

On most vehicles you have to be stationary when changing from high to low range, check your owners manual for your particular vehicle.

A handy hint when reversing with your vehicle while towing is to select low range 4WD to be able to move very slowly without having to slip the clutch. However you can only do this if you have a constant 4WD or your part-time 4WD is fitted with free-wheeling hubs AND they are not locked in, otherwise you will cause transmission windup.

Free Wheeling Hubs

If your vehicle is fitted with free wheeling hubs, you will need to lock them in before selecting 4WD. The free wheeling hub connects the front wheel to the front axle allowing it to be driven when four wheel drive is selected.

Free wheeling hubs are fitted to reduce wear on the front diff and drive shaft, and to (marginally) help improve fuel economy when it is in 2WD. Permanent 4WD's do not have free wheeling hubs as they are always in 4WD and need the front wheels to be permanently connected to the axle.

If you select 4WD without the freewheeling hubs locked in, then you will only be in 2WD, even though the 4WD dash light indicator (if fitted) will show 4WD. Even experienced 4WDrivers make this common mistake of forgetting to lock the freewheeling hubs.

i got it off another posting from another website
 

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Still here gavan, yesterday did my 80K major service. Cost me RM1034.70. Which is consider cheap as a lot of things was replace and changed.
I didn't change the 3 belts as they were changed on 46K service so still can less another 8K so will change it on next service.

The 80K major service list is long. All the fluid was reaplce, 2x fuel filter, tune up...etc...etc
 

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wah wah!! eh, did you change your absorbers before? are you using lift up absorbers or used back the stock ones?
 

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hey any1 want those heavy duty absorber can sms me i sell, very good i use for off road n even in city driving it is great at high speed ur car wont sway or float as the absorber is anchored firmly to the ground, even u hit pothole u wont feel it is there

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wow, i can't wait to see pictures bro... wonder if those abs can give some lift to the ride anot... i need to lift the front abit... its dipping now... =( price is good as well... =)

Bump: wow, i can't wait to see pictures bro... wonder if those abs can give some lift to the ride anot... i need to lift the front abit... its dipping now... =( price is good as well... =)
 

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raise by half inch as tht is max u can go on oem suspension, if want higher have to do body or shackle lift la
 

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Hi guys, how's everyone doing. I'm in japan now. It's cold here about 5 degrees but it's really nice weather.
 

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raise by half inch as tht is max u can go on oem suspension, if want higher have to do body or shackle lift la
erm, mine infront is those twist rod kinda suspension wor? how do i go about raising that? actually i never knew how those things work also, just i know it twist when compressed. hehe...

well, reason why i asked so is because lets say if i would to change the leaf springs or something later on, wether the same abs can be used anot ma. :) shackle lift is for the rear only right? the front apamacam mau lift? kinda new to this lift lift thing, so the only one i know so far is to change springs and leaf springs or shackle. but problem is my front doesn't have a spring... only got a rod. can still lift the car using the same rod? or must change to something else.. thats the thing which i wanna know... cause if i'm not wrong my friend's one used abs to lift if im not wrong... not sure also...

so yeah... hehe, sorry ar, noobie asking questions...


oooo, japan.... sweet.... =) share some photos la bro... =) i know you've got a nice camera... hehe... =)
 

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erm, mine infront is those twist rod kinda suspension wor? how do i go about raising that? actually i never knew how those things work also, just i know it twist when compressed. hehe...

well, reason why i asked so is because lets say if i would to change the leaf springs or something later on, wether the same abs can be used anot ma. :) shackle lift is for the rear only right? the front apamacam mau lift? kinda new to this lift lift thing, so the only one i know so far is to change springs and leaf springs or shackle. but problem is my front doesn't have a spring... only got a rod. can still lift the car using the same rod? or must change to something else.. thats the thing which i wanna know... cause if i'm not wrong my friend's one used abs to lift if im not wrong... not sure also...

so yeah... hehe, sorry ar, noobie asking questions...


oooo, japan.... sweet.... =) share some photos la bro... =) i know you've got a nice camera... hehe... =)

bout tht i nt sure also as my is pajero so the front lift with the absorber, shackle lift can be use in front if ur car front suspension is leaf type(very rare nowadays), there are 2 way to lift the front
1) by adjusting the front upper and lower arm
2) by doing arm lift(same as shackle lift)
but in all it depend on how much lift u want if just 2-3 inch just adjust the upper n lower arm is enough, but if 4-6 inch u have to do arm lift and change torsion bar and everything, some car require to change tie rod end and steering rod also,

however if u lift ur car u have to change absorber also as oem will not coop with the height n end up making ur ride feel funny, even u change to old man emu just 2 days ago n u did lift today have to change new abs also, so if u want to lift better wait till ur absorber is worn out, so u wont rugi, another thing is if u put "lift absorber"( the panjang 1) to ur unlifted car it will end up damaging ur absorber only as the compression rate is different plus ur car will bounce alot

but there are cheaper ways to lift ur car, by doing a body lift, this just lift your body as high as you want 2-6 inch ( usually just 2 inch 6 inch are for hardcore drive tht didnt use their car on road) without changing ur suspension system, it just cost fraction of the price, but most shop will say to u do the suspension lift because of marketing n sales reason, as long as u just lift around 2-3 inch there are no safety issue,

but wht i planned to do is 2inch on body lift, 4 inch on suspension and raise the suspension tapak by 1 inch, n use bigger tyre 36", so it become a monster, sadly my pocket dont allowed me to do so :banghead:

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Hi guys, how's everyone doing. I'm in japan now. It's cold here about 5 degrees but it's really nice weather.
titan bring us back some souvenir la frm there, a rare toyota, nissan or mitsu, toyota megacriuser would be nice, or at least one of those cute japs girl, hahaha:wavey::burnout:
 
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ooh like that wan ar?? i see i see...
must go find out how to go about lifting the front arm, i just wanna lift the suspension without lifting the body. I sat in my friends car which has a body lift and a suspension lift, the car feels abit funny la. like too high and not stable like that, i just want to do a suspension lift is enough, butthen some workshop qoute me extreme mahal gila wan.. thats why i'm wondering if i can do a step by step lift like maybe arms first, then absorbers or the other way around like absorbers then arms then leaf spring at the rear. u know, to make the car higher butthen ride softer at the backside abit cause the car now behind super bumpy. Hehe... yeah abit complicated, thats why need to think abit. Wanna make sure do properly instead of one shot come out 5-6k terus do suspension swap.. that one abit mahal la... hehe, pocket not soo deep yet ler... =(
 

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Has anyone here tried the Silverstone MT117-EX (275/70R16) on a stock height frontier with 7.0jjx16 alloy rims before?
 

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haha, ok, i've found out that i need to do a lil body lift before i could actually fit those tires in without problems... =) also need some offset wheels so that it would fit in nicer... damn i should had spent my money buying those offset rims from OTW... =( now no money d... =( sigh...
 

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woot~! another person said i can just fit in those 275/70R16 tires in without doing a body lift... anyone can confirm this? Vykin, if you are reading this... this weekend you going anot to volvo????
 

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Gavan, mod like this~~Hehehhe:burnout:


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Your choice~~:burnout::burnout:
 

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wah wah i tell you... now oni free, no time to go volvo also... =(

walao~!!!! become lorry already wei... how to drive offroad like that, the tires tooo berat liow~! my car oni 2.5L wei!! hahaha.... =P the second pic can la, butthen cannot go offroad liow, gone la bodykit all... =P ahhaha...
 
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