Honda Civic FD2 VS Toyota Camry VS Honda Accord

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i am considering to buy 2nd hand car, the 2nd latest batches for these cars.

i am well aware of comparing these cars are incorrect as Civic is not as same class as Camry / Accord.

Well, i thought about these car as i am budgeting my monthly commitment is around RM1k-RM1.2K, thats my first requirement.

the reason i choose these cars:-

Civic FD2 (not FD2R) : sportier
Camry XV40 / Accord 8th Gen. : Spacious.

i drive mostly in the city, but may travel frm KL - Penang occasionally to visit in-law family.

the advise i am seekings:-

1) maintenance cost
2) fuel consumption
3) problematic frequent

*if you think the maintenance cost for civic FD2 is highest whilst accord 2.4 lowest, you may write CIVIC > CAMRY > ACCORD

and also, for camry & accord - are CC 2.0 and 2.4 are contribute big difference as per the item 1~3? forget about top speed / acceleration, i am not really concern about that, as i knew these issues may bring impact to items 1~3 eventually.

Your kind advice for this issue is really appreciated.

Please..

Thanks!!!
 

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with all the things taken into consideration, i would say:
civic > accord > camry

apart from that, test drive those machines would help u to decide. good luck!
 

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I can only compare between Camry and civic as my family had those two rides, not mine but I do the driving every weekend.
You will be surprise that Camry has a lower maintenance cost compared to the civic and hassle / problem free.

The civic seen more mechanics than me seeing doctor over headaches and fevers!

If you are looking for a reliable and comfy car, go for Camry! however having said that,
do give accord a test drive as it wouldn't hurt you anyway!

I would like to stress again that it's my experience with this two cars not a absolute answer.

Do update us your opinion before you purchase and after you purchase to give people with similar problem a chance to enlighten themselfs!

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I would go for Camry. Toyota would suit your requirement. Not into top speed/acceleration means u r not into performance. More into comfort. Is either the Camry or Accord.

But I would choose Camry over maintenance cost and reliability and FC :biggrin:
 

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For maintenance : Camry > Civic / Accord.

But this is highly dependent on whether you're buying completely new cars. If all new then your 1.2k per month may not be enough for all 3 cars unless you have a high down payment. If used car then the above is true. If new car then it's more like Camry > Accord > Civic. The civic is generally a very problematic car.

Personally looking at what you're using the car for, I'd choose the Accord (assuming you're talking about the latest 2014 model). Purely because it's more kitted out than the Camry and is very much a better car to drive.

Also, the Camry is very very high in the "stolen car" list. In fact it was #1 in 2013 so I would be spending a LOT on security for the car if you decide to buy the Camry.

Lastly Camry is running on a very old technology engine. It hasn't changed much at all since the 2nd model Camry, only exterior upgrades.

But Toyotas will forever conquer the resale value market as the best value so if you're not planning on keeping the car long, Camry is better. A 5 year old Camry right now can still command 100k which is stupidly ridiculous if you ask me.
 

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I remember flipping through a friend's Camry service booklet. Seems to have LSD. :o
No wonder couldnt lose the camry behind me at one time. He tail kaw me lol
 

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No wonder couldnt lose the camry behind me at one time. He tail kaw me lol
Nothing to do with LSD or whatever. I'm highly tempted to say driver problem.. but I know there is no replacement for displacement and since I'm driving a 2.0 as well, I know it's got one helluva lot of power. So if that Camry was a 2.4, then you better give way cuz there's no way either one of your cars will be able to outrun it.
 

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Nothing to do with LSD or whatever. I'm highly tempted to say driver problem.. but I know there is no replacement for displacement and since I'm driving a 2.0 as well, I know it's got one helluva lot of power. So if that Camry was a 2.4, then you better give way cuz there's no way either one of your cars will be able to outrun it.
Could be the balls' material problem. :rofl:
 

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For maintenance : Camry > Civic / Accord.

Lastly Camry is running on a very old technology engine. It hasn't changed much at all since the 2nd model Camry, only exterior upgrades.
Because its based on very old technology, it is mature and proven to work. A good example is Airbus A320.. you know, the fleet of planes by AirAsia? The A320 uses an Intel 80186 and a Motorola 68000.

What is a 80186? It is a 25mHz processor based on its fastest iteration. In other words, its a gazillion times slower than the processor in your mobile phone!

But who cares if its old and slow? It works! Just like how Toyota cars just work despite having very old technology.


Whereas companies like VW that introduces twin charging on mass market vehicle & dry dual clutch..all flawed. Cause its new, it may or may not work.
 

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no la camry no LSD, could be other meaning:biggrin:
Normal daily cars where got LSD? This will bring up the cost too.....

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Nothing to do with LSD or whatever. I'm highly tempted to say driver problem.. but I know there is no replacement for displacement and since I'm driving a 2.0 as well, I know it's got one helluva lot of power. So if that Camry was a 2.4, then you better give way cuz there's no way either one of your cars will be able to outrun it.
That day a New Toyota Altis 2.0 Dual vvti try to show his power, squeeze here and there and tried to be fast, so I tested him out. He went fast lane on kesas so I tailed him. Can say I tail gate him.....kakkakakakka :biggrin::biggrin:
 

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Nothing to do with LSD or whatever. I'm highly tempted to say driver problem.. but I know there is no replacement for displacement and since I'm driving a 2.0 as well, I know it's got one helluva lot of power. So if that Camry was a 2.4, then you better give way cuz there's no way either one of your cars will be able to outrun it.
Yup it is, IINM. I pedal to metal that bugger still so near behind me. Couldnt even pull away an inch haha! Just testing. So, die la I 1.8L sure lose to your 2.0 during drag haha :rofl:

Normal daily cars where got LSD? This will bring up the cost too.....

That day a New Toyota Altis 2.0 Dual vvti try to show his power, squeeze here and there and tried to be fast, so I tested him out. He went fast lane on kesas so I tailed him. Can say I tail gate him.....kakkakakakka :biggrin::biggrin:
Seldom got Altis try show power one wor...usually Vios haha! U bully NA cars la haha!

cos its an unker's car right? I almost bought the camry 2.4V. :biggrin:
Lucky u didnt if not hard to catch up with VR's Galant.
 

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cos its an unker's car right? I almost bought the camry 2.4V. :biggrin:
Wait a few more years you will be like bro. Izso (he got unker car dy):biggrin::biggrin:

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Yup it is, IINM. I pedal to metal that bugger still so near behind me. Couldnt even pull away an inch haha! Just testing. So, die la I 1.8L sure lose to your 2.0 during drag haha :rofl:

Seldom got Altis try show power one wor...usually Vios haha! U bully NA cars la haha!
Aiyah! you think your 1.8 very powerful meh! go run with 2.4? He already 600cc more then you, newer technology also....:biggrin:

You know me, where got bully NA one. He zoom left and right, cut here and there then I only try him out since he show he was fast, but actually not....hahahhahahah:biggrin:
 

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Oh. Now the lastest one has a 2.5, not 2.4 anymore.
I suspect that 2.5 has the LSD. My friend's a 2.0
Oh! he even run against latest model.......:stupid::biggrin::biggrin:

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Oh. Now the lastest one has a 2.5, not 2.4 anymore.
I suspect that 2.5 has the LSD. My friend's a 2.0
I think you mean VSC and TRC. Vehicle Stability Control and Traction Control
 

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I can only compare between Camry and civic as my family had those two rides, not mine but I do the driving every weekend.
You will be surprise that Camry has a lower maintenance cost compared to the civic and hassle / problem free.

The civic seen more mechanics than me seeing doctor over headaches and fevers!

If you are looking for a reliable and comfy car, go for Camry! however having said that,
do give accord a test drive as it wouldn't hurt you anyway!

I would like to stress again that it's my experience with this two cars not a absolute answer.

Do update us your opinion before you purchase and after you purchase to give people with similar problem a chance to enlighten themselfs!

Regards,
Acer1810
i may drive fast always, its habit. but not kinda fast & furious.. lol... wifey love fd2 more than other 2 , well.. women only know the exterior, never know other.. maintenance + fuel = hubby's $, why on earth she got to give a damn??! hhahaha..

if i can get the body kit for Toyota Aurion Sportivo / TRD, that would be perfect then!!!

I would go for Camry. Toyota would suit your requirement. Not into top speed/acceleration means u r not into performance. More into comfort. Is either the Camry or Accord.

But I would choose Camry over maintenance cost and reliability and FC :biggrin:
Thanks matey!!! yes.. generally, toyota spare parts are cheaper than Honda.. rite?

For maintenance : Camry > Civic / Accord.

But this is highly dependent on whether you're buying completely new cars. If all new then your 1.2k per month may not be enough for all 3 cars unless you have a high down payment. If used car then the above is true. If new car then it's more like Camry > Accord > Civic. The civic is generally a very problematic car.

Personally looking at what you're using the car for, I'd choose the Accord (assuming you're talking about the latest 2014 model). Purely because it's more kitted out than the Camry and is very much a better car to drive.

Also, the Camry is very very high in the "stolen car" list. In fact it was #1 in 2013 so I would be spending a LOT on security for the car if you decide to buy the Camry.

Lastly Camry is running on a very old technology engine. It hasn't changed much at all since the 2nd model Camry, only exterior upgrades.

But Toyotas will forever conquer the resale value market as the best value so if you're not planning on keeping the car long, Camry is better. A 5 year old Camry right now can still command 100k which is stupidly ridiculous if you ask me.
i have never thought about getting new car but 2nd latest batch, where its priced 80k - 100k, depend its CC.. which i m comfortable in payin d monthly installment

I remember flipping through a friend's Camry service booklet. Seems to have LSD. :o
dude, what is LSD? seriously, got no idea.. dont mind to share?


Nothing to do with LSD or whatever. I'm highly tempted to say driver problem.. but I know there is no replacement for displacement and since I'm driving a 2.0 as well, I know it's got one helluva lot of power. So if that Camry was a 2.4, then you better give way cuz there's no way either one of your cars will be able to outrun it.
is the differences between 2.0 & 2.4 huge? in term of speed? well, i still got to drive highway, im not kinda patient guy, 140-160km/hr frm KL-Penang is the best... 2.4 better then? what about driving in city? these CC hv mch different each other??

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Oh! he even run against latest model.......:stupid::biggrin::biggrin:

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I think you mean VSC and TRC. Vehicle Stability Control and Traction Control

is the Toyota camry (XV40) has the VSC / TRC?
 

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Oh! he even run against latest model.......:stupid::biggrin::biggrin:

I think you mean VSC and TRC. Vehicle Stability Control and Traction Control
IINM Auto Cars no LSD one wor...

i may drive fast always, its habit. but not kinda fast & furious.. lol... wifey love fd2 more than other 2 , well.. women only know the exterior, never know other.. maintenance + fuel = hubby's $, why on earth she got to give a damn??! hhahaha..

if i can get the body kit for Toyota Aurion Sportivo / TRD, that would be perfect then!!!

Thanks matey!!! yes.. generally, toyota spare parts are cheaper than Honda.. rite?

i have never thought about getting new car but 2nd latest batch, where its priced 80k - 100k, depend its CC.. which i m comfortable in payin d monthly installment

dude, what is LSD? seriously, got no idea.. dont mind to share?

is the differences between 2.0 & 2.4 huge? in term of speed? well, i still got to drive highway, im not kinda patient guy, 140-160km/hr frm KL-Penang is the best... 2.4 better then? what about driving in city? these CC hv mch different each other??

is the Toyota camry (XV40) has the VSC / TRC?
You can google up what Is LSD, but don't bother cuz your camry don't have but no harm knowing more. :biggrin:

Ya I like the camry that you are referring to. Newer designs I don't like. Go for 2.4L better.
Having extra horses is better than having less.

At least anything wrong, u can speed up and flee. Example road bullies or stalkers.
Seems from what I heard ya, spare parts cheaper.
 

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i may drive fast always, its habit. but not kinda fast & furious.. lol... wifey love fd2 more than other 2 , well.. women only know the exterior, never know other.. maintenance + fuel = hubby's $, why on earth she got to give a damn??! hhahaha..

dude, what is LSD? seriously, got no idea.. dont mind to share?

is the differences between 2.0 & 2.4 huge? in term of speed? well, i still got to drive highway, im not kinda patient guy, 140-160km/hr frm KL-Penang is the best... 2.4 better then? what about driving in city? these CC hv mch different each other??

is the Toyota camry (XV40) has the VSC / TRC?
Maybe your wife like FD2 because smaller and easier to drive?

LSD is Limited Slip Differential

2.4 much better power then the 2.0. Comes with more goodies like VSC and TRC....
 

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Oh! he even run against latest model.......:stupid::biggrin::biggrin:

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I think you mean VSC and TRC. Vehicle Stability Control and Traction Control
Bro. Service booklet la. Listed as hardwares those, not the software.
Listed with engine oil, gear oil, brake oil la.
 

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Yup it is, IINM. I pedal to metal that bugger still so near behind me. Couldnt even pull away an inch haha! Just testing. So, die la I 1.8L sure lose to your 2.0 during drag haha :rofl:



Seldom got Altis try show power one wor...usually Vios haha! U bully NA cars la haha!



Lucky u didnt if not hard to catch up with VR's Galant.
Well, i'm oso on 1.8 twincam with single VVT.
Then again i dont know what 1.8 are u driving, it could be down to weight, balls, material of the balls.
Of course i cant tapau Camry but surprise the camry with loads of lower rev torque.
Eventually the Camry will overtake....until, a corner appear....
If the Camry's tinted is clear, u can see how the look of the driver on the rear view mirror soo sick ofseeing an old Waja sticking to its tail...hahahah.

On normal wide,straight road..no way a normal 1.8 can get close with camry with both driver having same level of skill.
On kampung road its a different story. Every inch of the road surface count and a surefooted car with super feedback will prevail.

bro sf, we might want to set up a 1.8L cant-get-away-from-camry club.

On the topic,
I will pick the accord..why?
I want to be different.If not mistaken the drive is better.
 

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Well, i'm oso on 1.8 twincam with single VVT.
Then again i dont know what 1.8 are u driving, it could be down to weight, balls, material of the balls.
Of course i cant tapau Camry but surprise the camry with loads of lower rev torque.
Eventually the Camry will overtake....until, a corner appear....
If the Camry's tinted is clear, u can see how the look of the driver on the rear view mirror soo sick ofseeing an old Waja sticking to its tail...hahahah.

On normal wide,straight road..no way a normal 1.8 can get close with camry with both driver having same level of skill.
On kampung road its a different story. Every inch of the road surface count and a surefooted car with super feedback will prevail.

bro sf, we might want to set up a 1.8L cant-get-away-from-camry club.

On the topic,
I will pick the accord..why?
I want to be different.If not mistaken the drive is better.
Mine just extra alphabet than yours only. 1.8L VVTi :rofl:
Now that you say yours is 1.8 VVT I dunno what car u r driving :rofl:

I only know 1.5 VVT is suzuki swift or was it 1.6 VVT? :hmmmm:

Good idea...1.8L CGAFC Club :rofl: Nice name.
 
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