1.8 mivec management?need advises from all sifu

[deacon]

Stock mivec high lift cam is only 280 woh.. otherwise i kena cheated again LOL

 

[ben_gsr2s]

Hi All,

just want to share..

almost 3 years already using mivec CK on waja..
last year (apr 2007) re-bore to 1.8..

just using e-manage.. works fine wif me

i didn't really understand with this tuning/piggyback thingy.. but my mech. said there's still plenty i can do with e-manage alone..


regards

 

[cooljas]

got high cam...JUN 272 degree from Japan

JUN 272?yeah i blieve ur 1.6mivec is 200whp coz u r using jun 272...u know i got my 1.8NA without mivec 240whp torque 22kg/m but tat is while im dreaming....ha ha ha

 

[spyderslr]

Stock mivec high lift cam is only 280 woh.. otherwise i kena cheated again LOL

quite adamant its 300.....got this info from 4gtuners last time (in red)

Mivec stock cam profile

mivec low lobe(low rpm)
Ex 232
IN 228

Mivec high lobe(mivec engage/open)
Ex 285
In 300

my mech did measure the cam degrees b4 n confirmed its 300......just to share.....cheerzz... :)

 

[deacon]

:O 300 means i should be hitting more than 9000rpm... unless i got it all wrong :P

 

[Dino@Casper]

200 on engine is it? that wan i give n take 20% edi lu.. 200 on wheel 1.6... pull till what 10k?? hahaha

 

[spyderslr]

:O 300 means i should be hitting more than 9000rpm... unless i got it all wrong :P

ya, maybe you should....who knows u might hit 220whp since a 272 in a 1.6 Mivec can hit 200whp........hehehehe

 

[contreasjun27]

same feeling as you mate, even tho i've already sold mine away.......

contreasjun27: any idea whats the lift of the so called 272 high cam from Japan...??......coz Mivec stock cam already 300, i suspect the lift must be really HIGH......:hmmmm:

hahahaha shit...all i know is the cam is 272...but lift i really not sure lerr...mayb3xx sorry i cant confirm...

 

[contreasjun27]

i stay in rawang....come come show me...

then u pay more attention on a black gen2 with angel eye and carbon fibre gt-wing ok...haha

 

[contreasjun27]

Hi All,

just want to share..

almost 3 years already using mivec CK on waja..
last year (apr 2007) re-bore to 1.8..

just using e-manage.. works fine wif me

i didn't really understand with this tuning/piggyback thingy.. but my mech. said there's still plenty i can do with e-manage alone..


regards

if u using normal emanage then the tuning will be limited for mivec...
but if u use the emanage that got the variable valve timing thingy which is the latest emange then there is alot of tuning can be done on ur mivec engine...

 

[contreasjun27]

200 on engine is it? that wan i give n take 20% edi lu.. 200 on wheel 1.6... pull till what 10k?? hahaha

200 on wheel lah bro...no joke...using emanage the latest emange that got the extra function for the variable valve timing thingy one...

 

[Dino@Casper]

U talking about E-manage ultimate? 200whp.. seriously I'm dem interested in looking at the dyno chart.. which version of MIVEC? first generation or second??

 

[spyderslr]

he's referring to V-Manage, which has additional control over the VVT of latest generation Mivecs....but 1st/2nd gen Mivecs dun have VVT, only VVL wor....hmmm....anyway, i'm interested to look at the dyno charts too, wanna know whats the torque like and at what RPM does this amazing 1.6 makes it 200whp........or at least list the mods done to the car......

 

[mengz]

200 on wheel lah bro...no joke...using emanage the latest emange that got the extra function for the variable valve timing thingy one...

as far as gen 1 and gen 2 mivec is concern, it does not have variable valve timing, only lift and the lift also not to say really variable, more like a 2 stage lift. high lift and low lift. so how does that extra function on the emanage give ur frens mivec engine more power when the engine itself don't even have variable valve timing?

bro, u shud go read more abt the engine 1st. maybe ur fren bullshitting u or something. but anyways, the best way to proof it is..the dynochart :)

 

[starscream]

im not saying e-manage not good, but the e-manage ultimate just burn my friends B16A ECU, from what i think, a standalone is best for long term, because it has mapping and piggy back don't, normally they just tune the Air flow system in the piggy back, but for a more effective control you need a mapping system the adjust the amount of fuel at dfferent RPM like more lean on lower speed and richer on higher speed. I might be wrong. correction is welcome.

 

[spyderslr]

Being a piggyback, Emanage Ultimate's mapping capability is almost as good as a standalone as u can get....but of coz there's still limitations as its still essentially a piggyback, more powerful than the Blue or AFC+ITC tho.........as for it burning ECU's, it could b due to alot of factors and not from the Emanage alone.....

 

[contreasjun27]

he's referring to V-Manage, which has additional control over the VVT of latest generation Mivecs....but 1st/2nd gen Mivecs dun have VVT, only VVL wor....hmmm....anyway, i'm interested to look at the dyno charts too, wanna know whats the torque like and at what RPM does this amazing 1.6 makes it 200whp........or at least list the mods done to the car......

yes baby u are so expert hahaha...is Vmanage...sigh all my knowledge rusty dy ever since i left msia for oversea studies hahahah...
hmm if i can find the dyno chart from him then i'll try to post up lah ok...hehe

 

[contreasjun27]

as far as gen 1 and gen 2 mivec is concern, it does not have variable valve timing, only lift and the lift also not to say really variable, more like a 2 stage lift. high lift and low lift. so how does that extra function on the emanage give ur frens mivec engine more power when the engine itself don't even have variable valve timing?

bro, u shud go read more abt the engine 1st. maybe ur fren bullshitting u or something. but anyways, the best way to proof it is..the dynochart :)

LOL i'll ask my friend to provide dyno chart then...btw is a Mivec CK engine...terbalik version

actually the tuner is good dats y can tune the car so well...

 

[contreasjun27]

Being a piggyback, Emanage Ultimate's mapping capability is almost as good as a standalone as u can get....but of coz there's still limitations as its still essentially a piggyback, more powerful than the Blue or AFC+ITC tho.........as for it burning ECU's, it could b due to alot of factors and not from the Emanage alone.....

yup i strongly agree what spyderslr say...i've been using Emanage for more than a year and it doesnt cost me any problem...
maybe is becoz the tuner tune wrongly???

 

[spyderslr]

great...!!...will wait in anticipation for u dyno graph.....i guess some of us do too......

just some figures to digest tho, 200whp could = approx. 230-240hp on crank of the engine......tats massive amount of power from a 1.6 considering a Formula Atlantic 4AGE makes 240hp on crank @ >10krpm...... :) ....if a mivec can do tat, i'll be happy to see that happen.....