ATF. Stick to stock or use hifi I.E Torco?

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  1. Darth Evillus

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    Any difference using high performance Atf? Abit dubious bec it's function is only for changing gear. Worth the extra money?
     
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    brokenjars 5 Year | Silver

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    Specs the same then you can try. My 6 speed c160 gearbox grinds if i fast shift into second gear even flush and use new oem toyota gear oil. After trying redline mt90, no more grinding, more buttery gear change.
     
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    If no issues with using stock ATF then just stick to it, no need waste more money.
     
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    Make sure they are same or similar specs, if not can do more harm...
     
  5. sanekit

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    if using stock no issue, then just use stock. unless having issues like gear slipping after spirited driving or u add more torque and horsies coz of performance upgrade etc, performance ATF and cooler will help a lot. or u can also add additive with the stock atf when servicing.

    i'm using pennzoil platinum LV multi-vehicle (not really performance atf like redline, and it's cheap RM75/4L and it is fully syn compare to mitsu diaqueen which is semi syn and cost RM95-110/4L) for my car with lubegard platinum but this is because i'm using a 4wd mitsubishi autobox on my 4g93 and that autobox needs about close 5 litres ++ of atf after draining. LOL.
     
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    I also using Pennzoil Multi Vehicle ATF for my Chery with lubegard.......lol
     
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    Weleh, so cheap! My Toyota WS ATF normally around rm150, cheapest still rm120. Is that Penzoil compatible for WS type too?
     
  8. sanekit

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    bestest combination ever! hahahaha
    oh yes it is compatible with Toyota WS/Aisin JWS 3324 as stated on pennzoil website. i got mine from sparepart shop for that price.
     
  9. ixeo

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    For Daihatsu/Perodua gearbox best stick to Castrol Dexron III(H) or Shell Spirax black bottle. You pour in Pennzoil Platinum ATF and it'll slip.
     
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    good info. will not recommend perodua owners this.
     
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    Means too slippery? I remember those motor bike days, they ask not to use good oil in wet clutches.....lol
     
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    Yeah, for some reason from cold using those Multi ATF it will slip. In any case, ATF in cars like Perodua just change yearly or every 20,000km, whichever first. It's so cheap, no reason to skimp. If its a BMW 8 speed ZF, change yearly very poor. Almost 10x the Perodua.
     
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    Yeah I had checked also, says compatible. Will try it next time!
     
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    My take is slightly different from everyone here. Even if your car is stock, what is the purpose you want to change to a higher performance oil?

    Back when I still had an auto Wira, before I installed a ATF cooler I was on the stock Proton SPIII oil. I used to go Genting a lot and would use gear 2 and 1 a lot downhill. There was one time I managed to overcook the gearoil and once I reached the base of the hill and shifted to "D" it wouldn't go to the overdrive gear and stayed in 2. I stopped by the side of the road to let it cool down for about 15-20 minutes. It started shifting normally after cooling down, after that swapped out the ATF to Diaqueen SPIII. Never had the overheating GB problem after the switch. I personally think better ATF has better heat resistance (viscosity should be the same) and has higher tolerance to take a beating.

    If you're just driving casually in town and don't really drag your gears much you don't really need high performance oil especially if there's nothing wrong with your GB. As long as you using original correct spec oil you're fine for everyday puttering around.
     
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    You whack kao kao, sure need the better oil dy.......lol
     
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    hence i said if TS does spiritual whacking, he can change to performance one. hehe
     
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    That happened to me too but when my oil was getting old or like last time got leak, hence less volume and easier to overheat.
     
  18. Darth Evillus

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    What about oil filter? Using performance filter and stock filter any diff?

    Some people go the extra mile
    ATF flush
    Engine flush
     
  19. ixeo

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    Use original factory oil filter..good enough. Problem with aftermarket. You don't really know if its quality or they just slap their brand on some made in China filter...
     

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