4AGE 20V Top Overhaul / Full Overhaul

pcmoddingmy

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i have no white/black smoke coming out from exhaust...but 1 of the piston has no compression....siaoz....today will take out whole engine...sure the piston has pecah...blood out from wallet.... :(
Wow... that's bad bro. How did it happen? The engine was fully rebuilt early this year right? I thought you were running toda pistons?
If no compression, the engine will sound like running on 3 pistons, maybe no smoke also because no combustion on the affected cylinder. Either piston damaged or block warped. I've seen a BT block warped out of shape, leaving empty spaces between the piston and cylinder which causes the compression loss.
 

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am still using ori piston...but this time wil be together overhaul with 82mm forged piston...
haha .. good to hear that change to forged piston... toda or weslee brand?

hihi..
 

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melted toda forged piston? fuh.. i think shud be very [powerful set up ..

wat happned to tta engine?
 

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melted the toda piston?...would it be lean of fuel??...i will be using USA brand forged piston..dont know wat brand, much more cheaper than toda...hope that is reliable brand...
 

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Melted toda forget piston sounds like an expensive damage... hehehe. Wrong fuel or wrong tune?
 

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According to Kenny it ran too lean. only 1 piston melted. If not mistaken I think total cost more than RM4k to redo. If anyone drop by kegani can see 1 AE101 with Trueno bodypart white colour, thats the one
 

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hi guys im thinking to overhaul my BT myself. but i need some help coz its my first time.. where should i refer to know more about overhaul such as how much torque to apply to tight those bolts? any webs to prefer? or anyone can share with me?
 

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here are some interesting things I found out through the net.
Crankshaft:4age,4agz,st and bt all SAME

Con rods:4agz and early 4age same.late 4age and st same,bt on its own.Anyone actually measured the 7Af con-rod??

Pistons:4agz-low comp but ST and BT different(different part number)Anyone measured the actual difference(pin-location,piston height,pent-up piston top and valve clearance).

Oil pumps :all different(4agz and early 4age has 2 parts-drive and driven gear)ST,BT and 7af all different.Initially thought 4agz would have better oil pump but then BT has vvti and its the latest of the 4age.

Cylinder head:part number between ST and BT SAMEAnyone noted any differences???
 

scottwrx

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here are some interesting things I found out through the net.
Crankshaft:4age,4agz,st and bt all SAME

Con rods:4agz and early 4age same.late 4age and st same,bt on its own.Anyone actually measured the 7Af con-rod??

Pistons:4agz-low comp but ST and BT different(different part number)Anyone measured the actual difference(pin-location,piston height,pent-up piston top and valve clearance).

Oil pumps :all different(4agz and early 4age has 2 parts-drive and driven gear)ST,BT and 7af all different.Initially thought 4agz would have better oil pump but then BT has vvti and its the latest of the 4age.

Cylinder head:part number between ST and BT SAMEAnyone noted any differences???
7AFE conrod is longer than 20V, fatter than bt, but i think about the same as svt..
 

pcmoddingmy

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... and 20V (including BT) doesn't have VVTi. Its only plain VVT.