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<blockquote data-quote="riggy" data-source="post: 1558026" data-attributes="member: 5465"><p>An improved waja is a necessity. However what would the criteria be? Externally, the waja would need to be a whole lot less slab sided than the current design. Notice how the side panels (fender, doors) have not a single curve or arch or groove splitting it? The only thing that splits the car is the rubber strips running through the sides. This is actually a good thing for a manufacturer who intends to save moulding costs for the body panels, as we all know, the more shapes, the more design cost is there. However, this makes the car look utterly dull. Take a look at a shopping trolley and notice that if you put straight square panels it may just look like a waja’s side. In short, Proton needs to have its designers to make it look like the Neo (with headroom of course). </p><p></p><p>About the front and rear, yes, a Subaru style facelift is the way to go. </p><p></p><p>Note that Subaru is technically a small company compared to its other Japanese car manufacturers. To make sure that their cars last a long time, they actually over engineer the chassis to a point (try looking up on US reports on the actual strength of a Subaru B pillar to have more knowledge about what i’m saying here) and then keep improving on it year after year. The facelift isn’t the only thing that changes after every few years, there are lots of changes underneath if you look at the Impreza GD series applied A to the current applied F chassis. Aside from going from bug eyed to blob eyed to eagle eyed, the Impreza actually gained a better steering rack, lots some weight, got more aluminium parts even for the base models, better ride and handling due to new shocks and springs, new rear track (for the STIs), different roll bar settings etc. However, Subaru standardizes alot of items that actually make a car feel good to own. Note that Subaru probably makes only 400,000-500,000 vehicles a year, and it is because of this there is lots of rationalisation/standardization involved. The cars are actually based on the same 3-4 platforms. The R1 and R2 is essentially the same with the exception for length and the Impreza and Forrester share the same chassis and then the Legacy for its premium chassis (which I think the B9 Tribeca is based upon). Interior trimmings are quite the same, MOMO is specified for most of the Impreza upwards vehicles for the steering, which arguably makes the best steering wheels around. If you seat in a Subaru, you’d know that while certain plastics may seem somewhat cheap. The engineers MADE SURE that what you hold the most feels extremely good (this goes to pedals, gearknob, air-condition vents and controls). Hence, Proton should make sure that their cars based upon these criteria. </p><p></p><p>Back to the Waja issue, Proton should make the Waja a nice place to be in. As such, redesign the seats. The back/lumbar support is all wrong with those seats. Another thing with the interior I find wrong is the meter hood. Why is there a piece of plastic holding it up right in the middle? You can’t use it for anything, you can’t put a 10sen coin there in fact. Its just there to hold up the darn meter hood from collapsing under its own weight. Redesign it so that it can actually be used for coins. (unless with the new campro versions that has been done already).</p><p></p><p>Another issue is that Proton needs to increase the steering height. It seats a little too low for sprited driving. Either that or drop the seats. Improve the quality of the plastics in the car. Proton designers should opt for a little more quality in their plastics. No need to go so far for a benchmark, just buy a myvi and look at the upper part of the dashboard to see how a dashboard should be done on a budget. If you want something higher, look at the new civic then, seating in it makes you feel good.</p><p></p><p>ACTUALLY, the only good thing about the waja is the chassis, the rest you should change. It also goes to show that ride and handling needs to be coupled with the rest for a satisfying driving experience.</p><p></p><p>regards</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="riggy, post: 1558026, member: 5465"] An improved waja is a necessity. However what would the criteria be? Externally, the waja would need to be a whole lot less slab sided than the current design. Notice how the side panels (fender, doors) have not a single curve or arch or groove splitting it? The only thing that splits the car is the rubber strips running through the sides. This is actually a good thing for a manufacturer who intends to save moulding costs for the body panels, as we all know, the more shapes, the more design cost is there. However, this makes the car look utterly dull. Take a look at a shopping trolley and notice that if you put straight square panels it may just look like a waja’s side. In short, Proton needs to have its designers to make it look like the Neo (with headroom of course). About the front and rear, yes, a Subaru style facelift is the way to go. Note that Subaru is technically a small company compared to its other Japanese car manufacturers. To make sure that their cars last a long time, they actually over engineer the chassis to a point (try looking up on US reports on the actual strength of a Subaru B pillar to have more knowledge about what i’m saying here) and then keep improving on it year after year. The facelift isn’t the only thing that changes after every few years, there are lots of changes underneath if you look at the Impreza GD series applied A to the current applied F chassis. Aside from going from bug eyed to blob eyed to eagle eyed, the Impreza actually gained a better steering rack, lots some weight, got more aluminium parts even for the base models, better ride and handling due to new shocks and springs, new rear track (for the STIs), different roll bar settings etc. However, Subaru standardizes alot of items that actually make a car feel good to own. Note that Subaru probably makes only 400,000-500,000 vehicles a year, and it is because of this there is lots of rationalisation/standardization involved. The cars are actually based on the same 3-4 platforms. The R1 and R2 is essentially the same with the exception for length and the Impreza and Forrester share the same chassis and then the Legacy for its premium chassis (which I think the B9 Tribeca is based upon). Interior trimmings are quite the same, MOMO is specified for most of the Impreza upwards vehicles for the steering, which arguably makes the best steering wheels around. If you seat in a Subaru, you’d know that while certain plastics may seem somewhat cheap. The engineers MADE SURE that what you hold the most feels extremely good (this goes to pedals, gearknob, air-condition vents and controls). Hence, Proton should make sure that their cars based upon these criteria. Back to the Waja issue, Proton should make the Waja a nice place to be in. As such, redesign the seats. The back/lumbar support is all wrong with those seats. Another thing with the interior I find wrong is the meter hood. Why is there a piece of plastic holding it up right in the middle? You can’t use it for anything, you can’t put a 10sen coin there in fact. Its just there to hold up the darn meter hood from collapsing under its own weight. Redesign it so that it can actually be used for coins. (unless with the new campro versions that has been done already). Another issue is that Proton needs to increase the steering height. It seats a little too low for sprited driving. Either that or drop the seats. Improve the quality of the plastics in the car. Proton designers should opt for a little more quality in their plastics. No need to go so far for a benchmark, just buy a myvi and look at the upper part of the dashboard to see how a dashboard should be done on a budget. If you want something higher, look at the new civic then, seating in it makes you feel good. ACTUALLY, the only good thing about the waja is the chassis, the rest you should change. It also goes to show that ride and handling needs to be coupled with the rest for a satisfying driving experience. regards [/QUOTE]
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