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Message: <blockquote data-quote="pcmoddingmy" data-source="post: 4485499" data-attributes="member: 25616">Actually 20V cant compare to VTEC lah guys... VTEC is a totally different technology and way more advanced than what the 20V had with VVT. If the B16 didn't have VTEC and if it just had mere valve timing (similar to VVT), I dare say 20V would smoke em' hands down. Simply put, comparing an engine without valve lift technology to VTEC/VVL is like apples to orange. An engine with just basic intake cam pulley timing advancing/retarding technology is peanuts when comparing to an engine that has the ability to switch its cam shaft from normal lift to high lift... hence VTEC/VVL.Nonetheless, Toyota/Yamaha did show their best without requiring valve lift technology with the last batch of 20V, which is the 20V 6spd blacktop. Basically, the 20V is not a horsepower machine.... which doesn't really matter when your on a track or winding road, especially uphills. Torque is what they 20V had been designed to do which is why you noticed some videos where 20V doing better than the B16 in track (there was a video comparing 20V, B16b and SR16 in youtube, all in their original chassis). Try looking up for torque curve on all these 3 engines (or even any 1.6) engine and you will find 20V delivering good torque at mid-RPM range.And for that matter, the B16B type-R is a hand-built engine where every component on the engine is blueprinted, balanced and lightened to racing spec to start with. As for 20V blacktop, its more of a mass produced engine which is used on various platform across Toyota lineup with the BZR 6 speeder getting special treatment on the gearbox side and ECU mapping. Otherwise, the 20V BT is a common engine in Toyota when compared to the B16B which is only available on their flagship Type-R lineup.Just sharing my 2cents... ;)Edit: Prolly the meanest 20V in Malaysia:<img src="http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk89/toyotate71/20v.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" />Spec:20v silvertop fully loaded complete engine:kelford cam in/288 ex 288kelford valve spring1jz fuel injectoradjustable cam pullyhead port and polish redo shimtrd o.8mm metal gasketarias 81.5mm oversize forged pistonbriancower steel conrodacl race bearingtoda timing beltae111 fly wheel ,tinity clutch with trd pressure platesilver top 4 throtle,alternator n starter all complete wit aluminium pulleyNow guess how much WHP this monster is pumping out..... heheheSource: http://www.drift.com.my/v2/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=993</blockquote>

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