Nurburgring lap records

[munky]

These are the lap times for some of the production cars (production car = standard car, no tuner like novitec, gemballa,lingenfelter,hamann, bla bla bla involved)

Porsche Carrera GT 7:32
Mercedes-McLaren SLR 7:40
Corvette Z06 (c6) 7:42
Porsche 996 GT2 7:42
GT2 7:46
Jaguar XJ220 7:46
Lamborghini Murciélago 7:50
Lamborghini Gallardo 7:52
GT3 - New 7:54
Corvette Z06 (c5) 2004 7:56
Porsche 911 Turbo (996) 7:56
Chevrolet Corvette C6 7:59
GT3 - Old 8:03
Ferrari 575M Maranello 8:05
Porsche S (997) 8:06
Ferrari 550 Maranello 8:07
Ferrari 360 Modena 8:09
Honda NSX-R 8:09
m5 e60 8:13
Honda NSX 8:16
CTS-V 2005 c/d 8:19
BMW M3 E46 8:22
Nissan 350z 8:26
Audi S4 4.2 Avant 8:29
STS-V 05 - Autoweek 8:31
Porsche Boxster S, 252 PS/1386 kg 8:32
Honda NSX (6-speed) Coupe, 276 PS (Top Gear magazine) 8:33
Honda s2000 8:39
Dodge Viper GTS ?
Integra Type-R 8:43
Porsche Boxster, 204 PS/1325 k 8:54
Mini Cooper S Works, 200 hp 8:55


hmm i still remember in the m5 topic, someone said the m5 is faster than the F430. Well, i guess it's not true coz it doesnt even beat the F360 (maybe it does on other tracks, who knows ?) It's kinda suprising to see the corvette is faster than most cars. Would like to know wat's the time for the dodge viper. And not forgetting the ferrari enzo

Btw, i know there's no skyline or supra or some other cars, but this is all that i can find. I dont think the skyline can beat the nsx. Anyway , u can add other cars to the list if u want.

 

[lozo]

NSX-R driven by Motoharu Kurosawa is 7.56
Subaru Impreza Spec-C 8.06
R32 GT-R '89 8.22
Porsche 956 6.25
Viper GTS 8.10
M3 GTR 7.06
s2000 8.39

 

[SkYwAlKeR]

i wonder where the ariel atom will stand...
and the latest aston martin v8 vantage....

 

[Dremel]

http://www.fastdrive.org/download.php?view.677

1 1/2 months ago

 

[xerofighter]

http://www.fastdrive.org/download.php?view.677

1 1/2 months ago

i tot only road cars qualify to be in the list?

 

[Dremel]

if i'm not mistaken, it's a road legal car.. even it's not practical in some aspects..
correct me if i'm wrong

 

[si|verfish]

It is road legal in Britain, I don't know about anywhere else though. It really is a track car and a thinly disguised effort to masquerade as a road car. Same goes for the Atom. All these niche cars came along thanks to the track day boom in Britain.

munky, where's the time for the GT3 RS? It should be way up there.

Anyway, for all its dynamic polish and grunt, the M5 could never beat the laws of physics. It is just too heavy and weight is the killer in performance driving, especially on a track.

That Autocar article really is the main culprit, road test on normal roads, no performance figures or lap times or substantial evidence to back any of the writers opinion. It was a pretty inconclusive piece despite the writers attempt to be conclusive in BMW's favour. And then, just this month's Autocar, they tried to find the World's Best Driver's car and they (5 of them including a racer) rated the F430 to be better than the M5 on both road and track, plus the Ferrari was faster in both wet and dry conditions on the Rockingham track. The credibility of the claim made in the M5 > F430 piece? Go figure.

 

[riggy]

impreza wrx sti spec c type ra - 7min59sec

 

[lozo]

production + tuners

Old Nordschleife excl. GP Track, 20.832km;
6:11.13 � 202.073 kph � Porsche 956, Stefan Bellof, 1000km 1983
6:16.85 � 199.005 kph � Porsche 956, Jochen Mass, 1000km 1983
6:25.91 � 194.333 kph � Porsche 956, Stefan Bellof, 1000km 1983
6:28.30 � 193.272 kph � March BMW 832 F2, Christian Danner, Eifelrennen 1983

7:12.00 � 173.600 kph � Radical SR3 Turbo, 320 hp, 500 kgs, test drive 07/2003
7:12.25 � 173.500 kph � Schnitzer bMW M3 GTR, Dirk M�ller, 24 hrs practice 2002
7:23.00 � 169.289 kph � Porsche 993 GT3-R, U.Alzen/M.Bartels, CHC 2000
7:46.00 � 160.934 kph � Mercedes-Benz 190E, R.Schall/A.Schall, CHC 2000
7:49.92 � 159.591 kph � BMW X5 Le Mans, Hans-Joachim Stuck 2001
7:56.70 � 157.322 kph � Honda NSX-R; 320 hp; 1467 kg, Best Motoring DVD
7:59.00 � 156.566 kph � Opel Manta 2.0 Group H, Burghardt/Klodzey, CHC 1999

8:00.00 � 156.240 kph � Porsche Carrera, Jens Petersen, CHC 2000
8:02.44 � 155.450 kph � TWR Jaguar XJ-S, Tom Walkinshaw, ETCC 1983
8:08.00 � 153.540 kph � BMW M3 E36 Group A, , Packeisen/Czornycki, CHC 2000
8:14.00 � 151.812 kph � Porsche 944 Group F, Packeisen/Knott, CHC 1996
8:14.00 � 151.812 kph � Porsche Carrera Group N/GT, Breder/Hollmann, CHC 1998
8:23.00 � 149.096 kph � Honda CRX 1.6 Group F, Thomas Kr�ger, CHC 1999
8:27.00 � 147.920 kph � VW Polo 2.0 Group F, Holger Hildebrand, CHC 1995
8:27.00 � 147.920 kph � VW Polo 1.3 Group H, Andr� Krumbach, CHC 1999
8:27.00 � 147.920 kph � BMW 320i Group A, Packeisen/Czornycki, CHC 2000
8:36.00 � 145.412 kph � Opel Astra 2.0 Group N, Wolfgang Savelsberg, CHC 1996
8:54.00 � 140.440 kph � BMW 318 iS, Group N, Thomas Franken/Sabine K�mpf, CHC 2000
8:54.00 � 140.440 kph � Opel Calibra Group 2, J�rgen Schulten, CHC lap rekord 2000
9:08.00 � 136.853 kph � Renault Clio Cup, Stefan Niecknig, CHC lap record 2000
9:10.00 � 136.355 kph � Suzuki Swift 1.6L Group N, CHC lap record 1994
9:33.30 -- 130.813 kph -- Ford Escort RS2000, 150hp, RallyeRacing 1992
9:31.34 -- 131.262 kph -- Opel Astra Gsi 16V, 150hp, RallyeRacing 1992


The new Nordschleife exluding GP track 20.6 kms:
7:01 --- 176.152 kph -- Manthey Porsche GT3 race car, 493 hp (2004), http://www.autobild.de/tuning/testberichte...artikel_seite=4
7:06 --- 174.084 kph -- BMW M3 GTR, 24hrs, test session, J�rg M�ller (2003)
7:18.01 169.311 kph -- Donkervoort D8 RS, 370 hp, 670 kg, M. D�chting, sport auto 12/2004, http://speed.supercars.net/PitLane?viewThr...fID=2&tID=13957
7:19 --- 168.929 kph -- Radical SR3 Turbo (2003), http://www.radicalmotorsport.com/news_fold...liefe/index.php
7:20* -- 168.545 kph -- Opel Astra DTM V8 Coupe,500hp set-up for 24hrs race (sport auto 2003) *estimated
7:21 --- 168.163 kph -- Blitz Supra, 650 PS (Autocar magazine 1997)
7:25 --- 168.651 kph -- Alzen Motorsport Porsche 996, 24hrs race, Uwe Alzen
7:28 --- 166.652 kph -- Porsche Carrera GT, Walther R�hrl, Autobild July 2004
7:32.44 163.911 kph -- Porsche Carrera GT, definitive time by Horst Von Saurma, sport auto
7:32.52 163.882 kph -- Gemballa Porsche GTR 600 EVO, Wolfgang Kaufmann , sport auto 2001, http://www.gemballa.com/news/gtr6002.html
7:36 --- 162.631 kph -- AC-Schnitzer M3 CLS II E36, 350 hp, Michelin Sport Cup R , Mattias Ekblom
7:36 --- 162.631 kph -- Porsche Carrera GT, factory test driver Walther R�hrl (2002)
7:40 --- 161.217 kph -- Porsche GT3 RS, stock but Pirelli P Zero Corsa, Mattias Ekblom, ams
7:40* -- 161.217 kph -- Porsche Carrera GT, *cold and partially wet track, sport auto 12/2003
7:40 --- 161.217 kph -- Mercedes Benz McLaren SLR, Klaus Ludwig, Autobild 07/2004
7:41 --- 160.868 kph � Manthey Porsche GT3 M410, 413hp, AutoBild 07/2004, http://www.autobild.de/tuning/testberichte...artikel_seite=4
7:42 --- 160.519 kph -- Mosler MT900S Photon, Joao Barbosa, 2004 (according to dailysportscar.net)
7:42 --- 160.519 kph -- Radical 1500 SR3 (2002)
7:43 --- 160.173 kph -- TechArt Porsche GT Street, 620 hp, 1453 kg, sport auto 08/2002
7:43 --- 160.173 kph -- Porsche 996 911 GT3 RS, factory test driver Walter R�hrl, MOTOR Magazine
7:43.5 - 160,000 kph -- Lamborghini Murcielago, Autocar magazine 2002
7:44 --- 159.828 kph -- Pagani Zonda C12 S, 580 hp, 1820 kg, sport auto 07/2002
7:45 --- 159.484 kph -- Gemballa Porsche GTR 600, 600hp (2000)
7:45* -- 159.484 kph -- McLaren F1, estimated lap time form a video available at http://www.pistonheads.tv/
7:46 --- 159.142 kph -- Porsche 996 GT2, 462 hp, 1450 kg, sport auto 06/2001
7:46* -- 159.142 kph -- Jaguar XJ220, estimated by EVO magzine, http://www.jwhubbers.nl/ring/docs/evo-0007-7.jpg
7:46 --- 159.142 kph -- SHK Porsche 993 GT2, 652hp (1999)
7:47 --- 158.801 kph -- Porsche 996 GT3 RS, 381hp (3/2004)
7.49 --- 158.124 kph -- Porsche GT3, 392hp (2004), AutoBild, http://www.autobild.de/tuning/testberichte...artikel_seite=4
7:49 --- 158.124 kph -- Porsche 996 GT3 Cup, 360 hp, 1207 kg, sport auto 02/1999
7:49.72 157.885 kph -- Honda RC30, Helmut Daehne 1993 (moto bike)
7:50 --- 157.787 kph -- BMW E46 M3 CSL (08/2003)
7:50 --- 157.787 kph -- Blitz Supra, 750hp, Herbert Sch�rg (1997)
7:50 --- 157.787 kph -- Lamborghini Murcielago, 462 hp, 1450 kg, sport auto 06/2002
7:50 --- 157.787 kph � Westfield Super 7 with Hayabusa engine, http://nurburgring.free.fr/Vids/Bren_Westi...vx504_1_350.avi
7:52 --- 157.119 kph � BMW M5 (E60), 507 hp, http://www.rhein-main.net/sixcms/detail.ph...topic_id=731907
7:52 --- 157.119 kph -- Gemballa Porsche 911 Le Mans (1995)
7:52 --- 157.119 kph -- Lamborghini Gallardo E-Gear , sport auto 12/2003
7:52 --- 157.119 kph -- Mercedes Benz SLR McLaren sport auto 06/2004
7:54 --- 156.456 kph -- Porsche GT3 (996) (2003)
7:55 --- 156.126 kph -- Caterham R500 Superlight (2002)
7:56 --- 155.798 kph -- Ferrari 360 Challenge Stradale, 425 hp, 1387 kg, sport auto 02/2004
7:56 --- 155.798 kph -- Porsche 996 Turbo, 420 hp 1569 kg, sport auto 06/2000
7:56 --- 155.798 kph -- Chevrolet Corvette C6 (tested by Dave Hill)
7:57 --- 155.472 kph -- Lotec Porsche 993 Turbo, 600hp, 1558 kg, sport auto 05/1998
7:59 --- 154.822 kph -- Porsche 997 Carrera S, performance chassis, Walter R�hrl - WHEELS June 2004)
7:59 --- 154.822 kph -- Nissan Skyline R33, unknown suspension & boost; no limiter (Autocar magazine 1997)
8:02 --- 154.338 kph -- Porsche 997 Carrera S, Sport PASM setting, Walter R�hrl - WHEELS June 2004)
8:03 --- 153.540 kph -- Porsche 911 GT3, 360 hp, 1391 kg, sport auto 08/1999
8:04 --- 153.223 kph -- Lamborghini Diablo GT, 575 hp, 1620 kg, sport auto 07/2000
8:05 --- 152.907 kph -- Ferrari 575M Maranello F1, 580 hp, 1820 kg, sport auto 12/2002
8:05 --- 152.907 kph -- Porsche 997 Carrera S, normal PASM setting, Walter R�hrl, WHEELS 06/2004
8:06 --- 152.592 kph -- Mercedes Benz SL55 AMG
8:06 --- 152.592 kph -- Caterham 7 Superlight R, Robert Nearn
8:07 --- 152.279 kph � Ferrari 550 Maranello, 485 hp, 1724 kg, sport auto 06/1998
8:09 --- 151.656 kph -- Honda NSX-R, 320 hp, 1467 kg, sport auto 08/2002
8:09 --- 151.656 kph -- Ferrari 360 Modena , 400 hp, 1464 kg, sport auto 10/1999
8:09 --- 151.656 kph -- Lamborghini Diablo SV, 520 hp, 1590 kg, sport auto 12/1997
8:10 --- 151.114 kph -- Chrysler Viper GTS, 411 hp, 1567 kg, sport auto 10/1997
8:10 --- 151.347 kph -- Donkervoort D8 180R
8:12 --- 150.732 kph -- Mercedes Benz SL55 AMG, 476 hp, 1651 kg, sport auto 04/2002
8:12 --- 150.732 kph -- Porsche 993 Turbo
8:13 --- 150.426 kph -- BMW M5 (E60), 507 hp, 1844 kg, sport auto 12/2004, >>> http://speed.supercars.net/PitLane?viewThr...fID=2&tID=13956
8:13 --- 150.426 kph -- Lotus Esprit Sport 350, 354 hp, 1324 kg, sport auto 05/1999
8:13 --- 150.426 kph -- Dodge Viper SRT-10, 506hp sport auto, 10/2004
8:15 --- 149.818 kph -- Ruf 911 CTR 2, 520 PS
8:15* -- 149.818 kph -- Holden GTS (2000), *estimated
8:15 --- 149.818 kph -- Porsche 911 Carrera 2 (997) (Walter R�hrl - WHEELS June 2004)
8:16 --- 149.516 kph -- AC-Schnitzer M3 CLS II E36, 350 hp, sport auto 11/1997
8:16 --- 149.516 kph -- AC-Schnitzer V8 Topster, 450 hp, 1557kg (sport auto 01/2005)
8:16 --- 149.516 kph -- Aston Martin DB9, 457hp, sport auto 11/2004, http://speed.supercars.net/PitLane?viewThr...fID=2&tID=10114
8:17 --- 149.215 kph -- Aston Martin V12 Vanquish, 515 hp, 1775 kg, sport auto 01/2003
8:17 --- 149.215 kph -- Porsche 911 Carrera, sport auto 06/2001
8:17 --- 149.215 kph -- Porsche 996 Carrera 2, 320 hp, 1399 kg, sport auto 02/2001
8:18 --- 149.916 kph -- BMW Z8, 400hp, 1651 kg, sport auto 08/2000
8:18 --- 149.916 kph -- Chevrolet Corvette Z05 Commemorative Edition, 344hp (09/2003)
8:18 --- 149.916 kph -- Ferrari F355, 380 hp, 1350 kg, sport auto 06/1997
8:20 --- 148.320 kph -- Audi RS6, 400 hp, 1815 kg, sport auto 03/2001
8:20 --- 148.320 kph -- BMW M3 E36, 321 PS (Autocar magazine 1997)
8:22 --- 147.749 kph -- BMW M3 E46, 343 hp, 1584 kg, sport auto 12/2000
8:22 --- 147.749 kph -- BMW M Coupe, 321 PS , 1445 kg, sport auto 10/1998
8:22 --- 147.749 kph -- Mercedes-Benz C55 (07/2004)
8:23 --- 147.435 kph -- Aston Martin DB7 GT, 442 hp , 1833 kg, sport auto 07/2003
8:23 --- 147.435 kph -- Porsche 996 Carrera 4, 300 hp, 1466 kg, sport auto 01/2002
8:23 --- 147.435 kph � Porsche 911 Carrera 4, sport auto 06/2001
8:24 --- 147.143 kph -- Subaru Impreza WRX STi (2004)
8:25 --- 146.851 kph � Audi RS4, 375 hp, 1675 kg, sport auto 10/2000
8:25 --- 146.851 kph � Corvette Callaway C12, 400 hp, 1564 kg, sport auto 04/1999
8:25 --- 146.851 kph � Mitsubishi Carisma GT Evo VI, 300 hp, 1466 kg, sport auto 11/1999
8:25 --- 146.851 kph � Mitsubishi Carisma GT Evo VII (11/2002)
8:26 --- 146.561 kph -- Mercedes Benz SLK 32 AMG, 354 hp, 1480 kg, sport auto 05/2001
8:26 --- 146.561 kph -- Nissan 350Z, 280 hp, 1526 kg, sport auto 10/2003
8:28 --- 145.984 kph -- BMW M5, 400hp, 1833 kg, sport auto 03/1999
8:28 --- 145.984 kph -- Nissan Skyline GTR, 277hp
8:28 --- 145.984 kph -- Porsche 996 Carrera 2,285 hp, 1452 kg, sport auto 01/1998
8:29 --- 145.697 kph -- Mercedes Benz CLK 55 AMG, 347 hp, 1593 kg, sport auto 05/2000
8:29 --- 145.697 kph -- Audi S4 4.2 Avant, 344 hp, 1826 kg, sport auto 11/2003
8:30 --- 145.412 kph -- Maserati Coup� Cambiocorsa, 320 hp, 1593 kg, sport auto 10/2002
8:31.42 145.008 kph -- Ferrari F355, 380hp, Top Gear
8:32 --- 144.844 kph -- Lotus Exige, 192hp
8:32 --- 144.844 kph -- BMW M Roadster, 321 hp, 1410 kg, sport auto 09/1997
8:32 --- 144.844 kph -- BMW Z4 3.0 SMG, 231 hp, 1396 kg, sport auto 05/2003
8:32 --- 144.844 kph -- Porsche Boxster S, 252 hp, 1386 kg, sport auto 12/1999
8:32 --- 144.844 kph -- Volkswagen Golf R32, 250hp
8:33.80 144.336 kph -- Honda NSX (6-speed) Coupe, 276hp , Top Gear
8:34 --- 144.280 kph -- Acura NSX, 276hp
8:34 --- 144.280 kph -- BMW Z3 Coup� 3.0i, 231 hp, 1350 kg, sport auto 04/2001
8:35 --- 144.000 kph -- BMW M3 SMG E36, 321 hp, 1515 kg, sport auto 03/1997
8:35 --- 144.000 kph -- Brabus-Mercedes Benz C V8 Sportcoup�, 426 hp, 1635 kg, sport auto 02/2002
8:35 --- 144.000 kph -- Opel Speedster Turbo, 220hp
8:36 --- 143.585 kph � BMW E36 M3 EVO, 321hp
8:36 --- 143.585 kph � Alpina-BMW B3 3.3 Coup� (07/1999)
8:36 --- 143.585 kph � Jaguar XKR Performance Kit, 363 hp, 1703 kg, sport auto 09/2000
8:36 --- 143.585 kph � Porsche Boxster �03, 228 hp, 1370 kg, sport auto 02/2003
8:36.42 143.604 kph -- BMW M3 EVO, 321hp, Top Gear
8:37 --- 143.443 kph -- Maserati 3200GT, 370 hp, 1614 kg, sport auto 09/2002
8:37 --- 143.443 kph -- Mercedes Benz C32 AMG, (09/2001)
8:37 --- 143.443 kph -- Nissan Skyline GTR V-Spec, 350 PS
8:37 --- 143.443 kph -- Subaru Impreza GT Turbo, 218 hp, 1290 kg, sport auto 03/2000
8:37 --- 143.443 kph -- Honda NSX 3.0, sport auto 07/1991
8:37.10 143.415 kph -- Nissan GTR V, 350hp, Top Gear
8:38 --- 143.166 kph -- Honda NSX 3.2, 280 hp, 1386 kg, sport auto 08/1997
8:38 --- 143.166 kph -- Mercedes Benz SL500, 306 hp, 1852 kg, sport auto 12/2001
8:38 --- 143.166 kph -- Porsche 996 Carrera, 296hp
8:38 --- 143.166 kph -- Brabus-Mercedes Benz CLK 5.8, 400 hp, 1592 kg, sport auto 12/1998
8:39 --- 142.890 kph -- Honda S2000, 240 hp, 1275 kg, sport auto 01/2000
8:39 --- 142.890 kph -- Morgan Aero 8, 286 hp, 1193 kg, sport auto 04/2003
8:40 --- 142.615 kph -- Holden GTS, on an in and out lap (2000)
8:40 --- 142.615 kph -- Chevrolet Corvette C5 automatic, 344 hp, 1505 kg, sport auto 07/1997
8:41 --- 142.342 kph -- Aston Martin DB7, 420 hp, 1847 kg, sport auto 01/1999
8:41 --- 142.342 kph -- Audi S3, 210 hp, 1489 kg, sport auto 06/1999
8:42 --- 142.069 kph -- Audi S4, 265 hp, 1592 kg, sport auto 08/1998
8:42 --- 142.069 kph -- Audi TT 1.8 quattro w. ESP, 225 hp, 1461 kg, sport auto 07/2001
8:42 --- 142.069 kph � BMW Alpina B3 3.3, 280 hp, 1495 kg, sport auto 07/1999
8:42 --- 142.069 kph -- Lotus Exige, 179 hp, 796 kg, sport auto 11/2000
8:43 --- 141.797 kph -- Honda Integra Type R (12/2000)
8:44 --- 141.527 kph -- Chevrolet Corvette C5
8:44.83 141.303 kph -- ChevroletCorvette Coupe, 339hp auto, Top Gear
8:46 --- 140.989 kph -- Porsche 993 Carrera S, 285hp
8:47 --- 140.721 kph -- Honda Civic Type-R, 200 hp, 1246 kg, sport auto 11/2001
8:48.25 140.388 kph -- Porsche 911 CarrerA, 285hp; Top Gear
8:49 --- 140.189 kph -- Jaguar XKR Coupe, 363 hp, 1703 kg, sport auto 07/1998
8:49 --- 140.189 kph -- Renault Clio Sport V6, 226 hp, 1381 kg, sport auto 07/2001
8:49 --- 140.189 kph -- Audi TT 1.8T quattro Coup�, 225 hp, 1461 kg, sport auto 11/1998
8:50 --- 139.925 kph -- BMW Alpina B10 3.2, 260 hp, 1600 kg, sport auto 04/1998
8:50* -- 139.925 kph -- Mercedes Benz E55 AMG (2000)
8:51 --- 139.661 kph � Alfa Romeo 156 GTA, 231 hp, 1350 kg, sport auto 05/2002
8:51 --- 139.661 kph -- Mercedes Benz C43 AMG, 306 hp, 1571 kg, sport auto 12/2001
8:52 --- 139.398 kph -- Mercedes Benz CLK 430, 279 hp, 1564 kg, sport auto 09/2001
8:54 --- 138.897 kph � Porsche Boxster, 204 hp, 1325 kg, sport auto 01/1997
8:54 --- 138.932 kph � VW Golf GTI 25th Anniversary, 180 hp, 1320 kg, sport auto 01/2002
8:55 --- 134.579 kph � Dodge Viper SRT-10, 200hp, sport auto 10/2004
8:55 --- 134.579 kph -- Mini Cooper S Works, 200hp, sport auto ??/2004
8:58 --- 133.829 kph -- Lotus Esprit Turbo SE, sport auto 07/1997
9:07 --- 135.576 kph -- Mercedes SLK 230, 195 hp, 1356 kg, sport auto 05/2001
9:09 --- 135.802 kph --Volkswagen Golf V6 4Motion, 204 hp, 1455 kg, sport auto 01/2004

 

[lozo]

i play gt4 with souped up mrs can do about 7.50 hehe

 

[si|verfish]

Actually, these lists give a rough guideline but they cannot be conclusive because of other factors. Track conditions, different drivers, etc. Unless we can get those details as well. Anybody?

 

[munky]

wei lozo tah mana2 ko dpt semua ni. Put standard cars enough la hehe :tongue:

 

[SkYwAlKeR]

i wonder where proton will stand in that list... kekeke...

 

[lozo]

aku google la. mudah aje
R3 should make a try

 

[infernaL]

reminds me of the GTR video . just love how the car overtakes the other cars like peanuts

btw can get it from fastdrive.org

 

[adliz]

7:12.25 � 173.500 kph � Schnitzer bMW M3 GTR, Dirk M�ller, 24 hrs practice 2002
7:23.00 � 169.289 kph � Porsche 993 GT3-R, U.Alzen/M.Bartels, CHC 2000
7:49.92 � 159.591 kph � BMW X5 Le Mans, Hans-Joachim Stuck 2001
7:56.70 � 157.322 kph � Honda NSX-R; 320 hp; 1467 kg, Best Motoring DVD

8:37 --- 143.443 kph -- Nissan Skyline GTR V-Spec, 350 PS
8:37 --- 143.443 kph -- Subaru Impreza GT Turbo, 218 hp, 1290 kg, sport
8:37 --- 143.443 kph -- Honda NSX 3.0, sport auto 07/1991
8:37.10 143.415 kph -- Nissan GTR V, 350hp, Top Gear
8:38 --- 143.166 kph -- Honda NSX 3.2, 280 hp, 1386 kg, sport auto

wah, x5 faster than nsx, skyline n impreza? somehow they bent the laws of physics?

 

[si|verfish]

That wasn't a normal X5, not by a long shot.

Fabulous thread revival btw, hehe.

 

[adliz]

yeah.. but still..

they were merely trying to show how gud the 4x4 chasis is, considering how heavy and big it is, yet can still be made fast, very fast, if they wanted to.. imagine if they produce r/gt/gt-r/gt-r v-spec or what not like their japanese makers on their already existing lines of 'stock, off-the factory cars.. :D

my point is, it's quite meaningless to compare cars of different purpose, not to mention price range? one is front engined, 5 seater munich-taxi sedan, another is an all-out, sports car which almost costs double! the fact that those people are comparing f430 and m5 showed that they believe those 2 are great cars, more so the m5 as it can be compared to the mighty fellali?

btw, i love those cars.. in fact i love all 'nice' cars.. if only.. :(

p/s: just browsing for lap times, and stumbled on this thread.. hence the revival.. :)

 

[si|verfish]

yeah.. but still..

they were merely trying to show how gud the 4x4 chasis is, considering how heavy and big it is, yet can still be made fast, very fast, if they wanted to.. imagine if they produce r/gt/gt-r/gt-r v-spec or what not like their japanese makers on their already existing lines of 'stock, off-the factory cars.. :D

Nobody is going to buy such a thing.

my point is, it's quite meaningless to compare cars of different purpose, not to mention price range? one is front engined, 5 seater munich-taxi sedan, another is an all-out, sports car which almost costs double! the fact that those people are comparing f430 and m5 showed that they believe those 2 are great cars, more so the m5 as it can be compared to the mighty fellali?

It is great. The big reason why it is so great is because it is a 4 door saloon that goes like a supercar. For that reason it is an awesome saloon and a great car. Take away the 4 door saloon part and you lose a lot of that awesomeness, and it turns into just another supercar and probably not so great and people wouldn't be raving about it that much.

btw, i love those cars.. in fact i love all 'nice' cars.. if only.. :(

We all have the same problem, my friend.

 

[adliz]

yeah man.. if only..