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Message: <blockquote data-quote="rollakid" data-source="post: 1361533" data-attributes="member: 6588">i agreed with nova, if and only if the map is tuned specificly on your car. Its like you drive your car to the tuner's premise, and he use whatever he had, skills and tools, to tune YOUR ecu. after you pay the tuner, whatever the map is in your ecu is YOURS, not the tuner's.Its just like a software development company, the software is tailor made for your company's system, after the project finish, the developer will pass over the system, the source code, and the documentation, which let you choose how you want to maintain it, upgrade it, and whether you want to choose the original developer to do it or choose another software firm.Its not like a comercialized software, like the microsoft office where it is sold off the shelves. If he design the fuel map on his own engine, like maybe the 4G63T for example. Then you go find him and ask for a "performance fuel map" or something, then he just directly load the ready made map onto your ecu and off you go in 15 minute, THEN he have the right to lock the map and not let you copy/access it.That is what i think of "intellectual property", actually what i learn.. theorically.. in uni, majoring in software engineering. Not giving the right to access or manipulate the end result in a "customized" system after the "project" is one of the main reason cost of maintaining a software goes up, and thats bad. heck, we might have an "ECU MAP CRISIS" <img src="https://zerotohundred.com/forums/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/rofl.gif"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":rofl:" title="rofl    :rofl:" data-shortname=":rofl:" /> a spin-off of the software crisis XD--edit--what if i throw motec into the picture? any views on motec? me just trying to learn also.. dun flame me XD</blockquote>