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<blockquote data-quote="savahn" data-source="post: 3541222" data-attributes="member: 49185"><p>Zealless,</p><p></p><p>I am a strong supporter of photovoltaics. I agree with you on a lot of the things you mentioned. However, when I was talking about Malaysian weather, I was talking about power efficiency, not that Malaysian is unsuitable. There was a group of us who wanted to do some business on solar power. Unfortunately, the entry cost at the time was too high. Currently, solar panel production is more efficient and lower cost so the idea is being revived.</p><p></p><p>The problem we encountered was the efficiency of solar panel technology against its cost - and no support from government. We did a survey within Klang Valley on how many days of FULL 8 hours sunlight against partial sunlight (due to clouds and rain). </p><p></p><p>Even with some simple sun tracking enhancement (panel will generate at near 100% efficiency when facing sun directly but drops when at a gradient), we were not yet convinced that the power produced would pay back the investment in a reasonable time (15years). One of us mentioned that he would make more money by buying public bank stock and taking dividends than investing in solar power.</p><p></p><p>The 2009 energy convention conference was interesting. But have you seen anything on solar energy in the budget? Has TM launched a power buy-back program that the public can participate in?</p><p></p><p>We cant yet run away from fossil fuel yet (and bio-fuel derivatives) when using solar as a alternative. During day time, we would be able to reach grid parity - as in, possible to power all Malaysia using solar only. But come night time, traditional power generation has to come online to compensate. This would reduce the cost of power production over-all. I dont know about doing 2x grid parity so that you have surplus to make Hydrogen for night time use but it does not seem likely.</p><p></p><p>First Solar, a US company, has a factory in Glenmarie producing 192MW equivalent of panels a year at end 2008. By 2010, it will be 4x times more. Unfortunately, these panels are being export to Germany as the German government has a strong solar power promotion program. This is sad because Malaysia is a better country for photovoltaics - except for the stupid rain.</p><p></p><p>There is at least one other solar panel producer in Malaysia - I think its factory is in Bangi.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="savahn, post: 3541222, member: 49185"] Zealless, I am a strong supporter of photovoltaics. I agree with you on a lot of the things you mentioned. However, when I was talking about Malaysian weather, I was talking about power efficiency, not that Malaysian is unsuitable. There was a group of us who wanted to do some business on solar power. Unfortunately, the entry cost at the time was too high. Currently, solar panel production is more efficient and lower cost so the idea is being revived. The problem we encountered was the efficiency of solar panel technology against its cost - and no support from government. We did a survey within Klang Valley on how many days of FULL 8 hours sunlight against partial sunlight (due to clouds and rain). Even with some simple sun tracking enhancement (panel will generate at near 100% efficiency when facing sun directly but drops when at a gradient), we were not yet convinced that the power produced would pay back the investment in a reasonable time (15years). One of us mentioned that he would make more money by buying public bank stock and taking dividends than investing in solar power. The 2009 energy convention conference was interesting. But have you seen anything on solar energy in the budget? Has TM launched a power buy-back program that the public can participate in? We cant yet run away from fossil fuel yet (and bio-fuel derivatives) when using solar as a alternative. During day time, we would be able to reach grid parity - as in, possible to power all Malaysia using solar only. But come night time, traditional power generation has to come online to compensate. This would reduce the cost of power production over-all. I dont know about doing 2x grid parity so that you have surplus to make Hydrogen for night time use but it does not seem likely. First Solar, a US company, has a factory in Glenmarie producing 192MW equivalent of panels a year at end 2008. By 2010, it will be 4x times more. Unfortunately, these panels are being export to Germany as the German government has a strong solar power promotion program. This is sad because Malaysia is a better country for photovoltaics - except for the stupid rain. There is at least one other solar panel producer in Malaysia - I think its factory is in Bangi. [/QUOTE]
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