Honda no good??? Why???

[renxun]

D-IV... agreed with u ... i owned an eg9 b4 and although its not durable and have minor wear and tear here and there frm time time to time, its a fun car to drive. i mean the handling. engine design which rev so freely altohugh its just stock with spoon gasket and reflashed only. i changed to short ratios and they are superb uphill and downhill machine wid a very good handling. however my engine still consume a liltte bit of oil despite i overhaul them twice. i know its minor.... but its noticable on my 5000km oil change.

whereas most of the toyota i drove doesnt handle like the honda and doesnt even perform like it in stock form. and yes they are durable wid minimal maintainence. and it all boils down to your preference whether which one is your priority. Your enjoyment or your wallet. If you can afford it, i would say why NOT for enjoyment. Afterall life is short..

 

[andy_coupe]

Well, MPVs are born from Vans, my friend. And I don't think that Innova or Avanza are all that bad actually, quality-wise. If you find that these are bad, you obviously did not start off from a Proton like the rest of us :rolleyes:

To be fair, there is a difference in class spec between Lexus (luxury), Toyota (normal) and Daihatsu (more affordable) (all under Toyota Corp) while Honda Corp only has Honda (normal) and Acura (sports) so you're not comparing apple to apple. Avanza/Xinex is actually Daihatsu's- just that in Malaysia, we seem to prefer the Toyota badge so they did smart re-branding. Honda did the same with the Prelude and Acura. Just my 2 sen's worth, bro

 

[JINEIL2EN]

Well, MPVs are born from Vans, my friend. And I don't think that Innova or Avanza are all that bad actually, quality-wise. If you find that these are bad, you obviously did not start off from a Proton like the rest of us :rolleyes:

To be fair, there is a difference in class spec between Lexus (luxury), Toyota (normal) and Daihatsu (more affordable) (all under Toyota Corp) while Honda Corp only has Honda (normal) and Acura (sports) so you're not comparing apple to apple. Avanza/Xinex is actually Daihatsu's- just that in Malaysia, we seem to prefer the Toyota badge so they did smart re-branding. Honda did the same with the Prelude and Acura. Just my 2 sen's worth, bro

haha... mayb u think that innova & avanza not bad, but i think its SUCKS...
i'm not comparing those 2 van/mpv with another, just from lotsa aspect, its sucks...

btw, i'm oso from perodua to proton to honda....

 

[keisukosan]

Grade 1-10

1. City vs Vios - 9:7
2. Civic vs Altis - 8:7
3. Accord vs Camry - 8:8
4. Stream vs Wish - 8:8
5. Oddessy vs Estima - 8:9
6. DC5 vs Celica - 9:7
7. NSX vs Supra - 7:6
8. Jazz vs Yaris - 8:7
9. CRV vs Rav4 - 8:6
10.???? vs Avanza
11.???? vs Innova
12.???? vs Rush
13.???? vs fortuner

Some of toyota cars wan compare with othet not juz honda oni... For all the car i love nsx rr,tats nice taste

 

[loose_end]

From what I notice , when it comes to cars .. many people but I would say most non car enthusiasts always talk about cars without facts .. like what JIN said , those girls said that Toyota is good or better than Honda but I believe so , that they talk of what they hear but not from what they see or experience .. Therefore , I vote for Honda

 

[epi4972]

City vs Vios - vios
2. Civic vs Altis - civic
3. Accord vs Camry - camry
4. Stream vs Wish - stream
5. Oddessy vs Estima - estima
6. DC5 vs Celica - dc5
7. NSX vs Supra - nsx
8. Jazz vs Yaris - yaris
9. CRV vs Rav4 - rav4
10. lagend vs is350 - is350
11. mdx vs harrier - harrier
12. stepwagon vs alphard - alphard
13. bikes vs toyota no bike - honda
14. airwave vs innova - airwave
15. life vs passo - passo
16. ridgeline vs hilux - hilux
17. avanza
18. CALDINA
19. altezza
20. mark x

all you guys not good la compare2 toyota n honda...
just buy what your dream car..
u say that no good this no good...
but all this car still sell outside there..
all car have their own special....
what car you want just buy la if you enough money...
toyota good for comfort
honda good for performance
so is u want for performance then buy honda la...comfort buy toyota...
civic not bad also caldina...
all this car has their own fan k...
dont fight2la...
i used civic fd2 and my wive used caldina.. how??
my father used accord my father in law used camry...
my sis used vios my brother used jazz..

 

[shiroitenshi]

Maybe more Toyotarians spend more time racun girls into thinking honda is bad.

But reliability wise, Toyota's rate of manufacturing defects I think is the lowest among car makers.

Honda is good, but they pretty made a bad impression with the Honda City, which was unavoidably compared to the Vios.

Or maybe more Hondarians 'tipu' their siblings/parents/etc that they're car under repair, while in actuality, they are doing engine swap/modification.... LOL

So more people think honda prone to Rosak

 

[choon_how88]

hey guys...u all compare all the toyota n honda cars....then can u tell me prelude compare 2 toyota wat model??..i am havin a prelude bb1 ...i think honda better..although prelude bb1 is old but till 2day it still can beat new celica n mrs...hehe..when vtec open at 5000rpm celica n mrs onli can smell the smoke of prelude...hehe..

 

[epi4972]

then if u said prelude compare with toyota wat model??
ok in that case u win...
can u tell levin compare with honda what model??
trueno??
caldina??
altezza??

but about then h22a engine on prelude??
i 150% not agree...
i have saw 1prelude with h22a n racing clutch onli can smell the smoke of 1 seg with 4throttle

Bump: then if u said prelude compare with toyota wat model??
ok in that case u win...
can u tell levin compare with honda what model??
trueno??
caldina??
altezza??

but about then h22a engine on prelude??
i 150% not agree...
i have saw 1prelude with h22a n racing clutch onli can smell the smoke of 1 seg with 4throttle

 

[choon_how88]

tat 1 i dono la...mayb tat 4 throttle is modified or wat..as i know h22a prelude manual standard can win ae80 16valve supercharger manual standard...then impossible can lose 4 throttle...

 

[loose_end]

hey guys...u all compare all the toyota n honda cars....then can u tell me prelude compare 2 toyota wat model??..i am havin a prelude bb1 ...i think honda better..although prelude bb1 is old but till 2day it still can beat new celica n mrs...hehe..when vtec open at 5000rpm celica n mrs onli can smell the smoke of prelude...hehe..

Woohoo .. nice to see you here .. what is bb1 ah ? .. the first gen of prelude or ?? .. and "tumpang thread" haha .. erm , how does vtec open ( how do you know it is open ) , till today , when I drive , i still can't tell whether does it open or not .. but I normally rev till 7k rpm ..and , how do I on or use 4WS .. I ask in the prelude thread , but there was no reply .. hope you could help me out here .. but still honda thread right ? hehe

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hey guys...u all compare all the toyota n honda cars....then can u tell me prelude compare 2 toyota wat model??..i am havin a prelude bb1 ...i think honda better..although prelude bb1 is old but till 2day it still can beat new celica n mrs...hehe..when vtec open at 5000rpm celica n mrs onli can smell the smoke of prelude...hehe..

then if u said prelude compare with toyota wat model??
ok in that case u win...
can u tell levin compare with honda what model??
trueno??
caldina??
altezza??

but about then h22a engine on prelude??
i 150% not agree...
i have saw 1prelude with h22a n racing clutch onli can smell the smoke of 1 seg with 4throttle

Bump: then if u said prelude compare with toyota wat model??
ok in that case u win...
can u tell levin compare with honda what model??
trueno??
caldina??
altezza??

but about then h22a engine on prelude??
i 150% not agree...
i have saw 1prelude with h22a n racing clutch onli can smell the smoke of 1 seg with 4throttle

You saw but he experience it .. who is stronger in their statement ..haha .. *peace*

 

[choon_how88]

when vtecopen u can hear the sound n feel the power...if prelude h22a then it normally open at 5000rpm.if accord h22a if not mistaken it open at 5500 rpm..a bit slower..bb1 is 4th gen prelude..4ws on prelude can b off...is full time 4ws...btw ur prelude got vtec onot??..some prelude don hv vtec then how 2 hear vtec??..haha..u better confirm it 1st LOOSEEND..

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[epi4972]

try to think it... b16 will win with h22..
but b16 and 4throttle??
maybe b16 and maybe 4throttle...
ae80 16v sprcharger not power neh..
4throttle and supercharger of cos sprcger will see 4throttle ass..

i have seen this 5 car at high way with this 4 type powerfull engine
eg9 with b16b
se lmtd with 4throttle bt 6speed
accord with h22a
seg with sprchager afm
se with sprchager map

and i saw
1) eg9 about 1metre fr
2) se lmtd 3metre fr
3) se 2metre fr
4) accord 6metre
5) seg

all that 5car are my fren
mine only use wira with mivec only...

 

[flame870110]

Woohoo .. nice to see you here .. what is bb1 ah ? .. the first gen of prelude or ?? .. and "tumpang thread" haha .. erm , how does vtec open ( how do you know it is open ) , till today , when I drive , i still can't tell whether does it open or not .. but I normally rev till 7k rpm ..and , how do I on or use 4WS .. I ask in the prelude thread , but there was no reply .. hope you could help me out here .. but still honda thread right ? hehe

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You saw but he experience it .. who is stronger in their statement ..haha .. *peace*

how vtec works
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stJM9EvZRgQ

vtec crossover sound
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLg03GLPxs8

baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa~!

 

[keisukosan]

then if u said prelude compare with toyota wat model??
ok in that case u win...
can u tell levin compare with honda what model??
trueno??
caldina??
altezza??

but about then h22a engine on prelude??
i 150% not agree...
i have saw 1prelude with h22a n racing clutch onli can smell the smoke of 1 seg with 4throttle

Bump: then if u said prelude compare with toyota wat model??
ok in that case u win...
can u tell levin compare with honda what model??
trueno??
caldina??
altezza??

but about then h22a engine on prelude??
i 150% not agree...
i have saw 1prelude with h22a n racing clutch onli can smell the smoke of 1 seg with 4throttle

Seems like u wanna play with honda rite?i take ek4 convert ek9 with k20 engine wat else u can do for it?

 

[loose_end]

when vtecopen u can hear the sound n feel the power...if prelude h22a then it normally open at 5000rpm.if accord h22a if not mistaken it open at 5500 rpm..a bit slower..bb1 is 4th gen prelude..4ws on prelude can b off...is full time 4ws...btw ur prelude got vtec onot??..some prelude don hv vtec then how 2 hear vtec??..haha..u better confirm it 1st LOOSEEND..

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Hey , thanks man .. Erm , from what I saw in the registration card , it stated h22a .. then there is a sticker at the side of the car DOHC VTEC , then at the valve cover /rocker cover .. it stated DOHC VTEC .. haha .. So , it will open at 5k rpm .. Hmm , I will try it out later ..And about the 4WS , I guess mine rosak d ..haha

 

[freeman1314]

Why Honda no good. I tell you why, because the part are all expensive compared to others. T_T That is why my sr3 is still stock until now. Blardy 16A price so high.

Bump: Why Honda no good. I tell you why, because the part are all expensive compared to others. T_T That is why my sr3 is still stock until now. Blardy 16A price so high.

 

[helmistaley]

try to think it... b16 will win with h22..
but b16 and 4throttle??
maybe b16 and maybe 4throttle...
ae80 16v sprcharger not power neh..
4throttle and supercharger of cos sprcger will see 4throttle ass..
:

if toyota 4 throttle vs b16b+4 throttle kit (toda) who will win?

 

[khoo198]

if toyota 4 throttle vs b16b+4 throttle kit (toda) who will win?

In this case (b16b +4 throttle + hi cam rev-10000rpm)....I will stand with Vtec

 

[cruiser78]

4 throttle VVT is good but not as good as VTEC. VTEC have more aggressive cam lobe and of course more power than 4A-GE... I've saw a VTEC with type-r gbox beaten a 2.0 turbo

BUT! VTEC parts are way too expensive. I have experienced both of these technology. It cost me RM150 for a halfcut VTEC water temp sensor, the price I can get a new water temp for toyota.

Honda is not bad, for town people. but for people who lives in remote areas like in Sabah, Sarawak, they will never buy a CRV for their daily usage. They will opt for Fortuner, Hilux and Ninja.

Honda also make vehicle for rich people. If broken, they can buy another one. Toyota build vehicle for people who are not as rich as Honda owner. They can pass their car from one generation to the other.

Honda also assume all people are lucky. They don't care to build reliable vehicle for use as ambulance, search and rescue and likewise. Did we ever see a CRV used as UN vehicle.... No, UN use Land Cruisers, Hilux.

Yes, Honda also make motorcycles, but Toyota is a shareholder in Yamaha Corporation. The 2ZZ-GE engine in Celicas and 4 throttle 4A-GE were designed with Yamaha. The first YZF-R1 which also have 20 valve was build using the experience building the 20V head on 4A-GE

Honda vehicles only carries healthy, rich and happy people with no more than 10 person onboard. Toyota made vehicle that helps people to improve their lives. Dyna, Hiace, are comparable to bread and butter for people doing business from pasar malam traders to multi-billion dollar company.

Toyota also a share holder in Hino Corporation which manufacture buses to carry not-as-lucky-as-Honda-owner people to work at Honda factories to support their lives. Hino lorries to carry Honda parts into Honda Factory and also carry Honda cars to Honda owner.

TOYOTA BUILD THE NATION

Bump: 4 throttle VVT is good but not as good as VTEC. VTEC have more aggressive cam lobe and of course more power than 4A-GE... I've saw a VTEC with type-r gbox beaten a 2.0 turbo

BUT! VTEC parts are way too expensive. I have experienced both of these technology. It cost me RM150 for a halfcut VTEC water temp sensor, the price I can get a new water temp for toyota.

Honda is not bad, for town people. but for people who lives in remote areas like in Sabah, Sarawak, they will never buy a CRV for their daily usage. They will opt for Fortuner, Hilux and Ninja.

Honda also make vehicle for rich people. If broken, they can buy another one. Toyota build vehicle for people who are not as rich as Honda owner. They can pass their car from one generation to the other.

Honda also assume all people are lucky. They don't care to build reliable vehicle for use as ambulance, search and rescue and likewise. Did we ever see a CRV used as UN vehicle.... No, UN use Land Cruisers, Hilux.

Yes, Honda also make motorcycles, but Toyota is a shareholder in Yamaha Corporation. The 2ZZ-GE engine in Celicas and 4 throttle 4A-GE were designed with Yamaha. The first YZF-R1 which also have 20 valve was build using the experience building the 20V head on 4A-GE

Honda vehicles only carries healthy, rich and happy people with no more than 10 person onboard. Toyota made vehicle that helps people to improve their lives. Dyna, Hiace, are comparable to bread and butter for people doing business from pasar malam traders to multi-billion dollar company.

Toyota also a share holder in Hino Corporation which manufacture buses to carry not-as-lucky-as-Honda-owner people to work at Honda factories to support their lives. Hino lorries to carry Honda parts into Honda Factory and also carry Honda cars to Honda owner.

TOYOTA BUILD THE NATION