gti mivec or mivec?

[r3dster]

gti mivec or 1.6 mivec?

this might sound kind of dumb but...
i need advice..i'm "planning" on something but still not sure what should i choose..
should i get a transplanted gti gsr(n/a since i'm not so interested with turbos, i'll just bolt it off and i heard 4g93p sucks so better get a mitsu 4g93.i'll save the internals since i want strong internals so can revv kaw kaw) and turn in into a mivec 1.8(complete hybrid..change head,t/b and etc etc etc...) or should i get a mivec half-cut and convert my 1.3?money is not an issue.since they say that 1.3's body is lighter so, if i convert it will it end up to have the same power as the gti since gti has a heavier body or i'm not making sense coz mivec gti will outrun the 1.6 mivec like shite?
i'm talking about power to weight ratio....i dunno...confuse...can anyone help?and please...turbos is way way way out of the "plan" i prefer n/a so don't give useless suggestions like plonk in evo or mivec 1.8 turbo..

plans to mod is like...street cams...adj.cams...small2 stuff la..and of course if it is a gti gsr....complete mivec head la...

next would be....a stock mivec 1.6 has 175 horses...what about stock hybrids?stocks ya...roughly la..if you guys have the exact figure..it'll be better...

lastly,evo 1,2,3 is a 2.0 cc right?is it possible to turn it to a mivec hybrid?

so please sifu's and otai's and taiko's...please advice...i don't mind getting harsh words...as long as its n advice

thanks in advance!

 

[g88]

what car r u driving now ? really no budget at all ? Only want NA right ?

 

[kennyyee75]

1.3 to 1.8? .....JPJ will not approve....

 

[r3dster]

$$$ is not a problem..dunno which one to pick :p..im driving a 1.3 satria currently..choices are...mod my car kaw kaw to mivec 1.6 or get a gti and turn it to a mivec hybrid....if mivec hybrid with a gti body(which is heavier) has the same power as a 1.6 mivec with a ligther body then might as well i just upgrade my current car right?or am i wrong?haih~

 

[Dino@Casper]

Having the extra displacement always helps....

 

[r3dster]

correcto

correct...i was looking over that too..since there's no replacement for displacement..but if i could get the same power on a lighter chasis..i'll save more..since i don't think i'd go for a 2.0 transplant for the gti..

 

[Dino@Casper]

but the gti chasis is stiffer better for handling

 

[r3dster]

good point...need more feedbacks and ideas....so if it's a gti..should i get the ones ready transplanted...or should i get the standard engine and turn into a mivec 4g93p ?since getting a ready transplanted is kinda hard to get the ones that's well maintained..plus..ppl usually transplant if there's something wrong with the previous engine or car...example blown engine or accident etc...etc..etc...not much will transplant for the fun of it...not much...there'll be like 1 out of 10..and to get a well maintained 1 is kinda...urmm..hard...i'd rather be safe than sorry..

 

[JEBON]

r3dster : I hav a satria mivec 1.8 for sale. original body,1.6 (better body compare 2 1.3 n 1.5)
Can refer 2 de 'car 4 sale' thread under 'satria mivec 1.8....wif pics'
highly nego.
CHEERS!

 

[putra4767]

mivec

Evo 123 can't be matched with the mivec head..The max is 4g93 + mivec
or overbore the block & replace piston...The max you may get is a 1.9 i think..

 

[kennyyee75]

the max shld be mivec turbo......heehee.....

 

[lekalo]

r3dster> hehe.. U change car lah. I oso want to fight with JEBON.. see the for sale thread. Or if I may; http://www.zerotohundred.com/newforums/showthread.php?t=120433
Sorry ah JEBON! Potong line also! heheheheheh! :P
peace.. peace..
sorry if I'm breaking any forum rules here. Please advise. "I boy new learn." TQ.

 

[HanJackaL]

Hey redster,
You are the one that bought my brother in law's 1.3 satira right ? Anyway to clarify and answer your questions :

1)If you want to convert your 1.3 Satria to Mivec,you 100% definately need a halfcut.Because halfcut has all the wirings you need for conversion,sensors,gearbox...etc.You cannot get GTI halfcut then buy the mivec head because you will be missing alot of important parts like sensors...its a pain to get everything so its easier and cheaper to just get Mivec halfcut.

2)1.8 Mivec inside GTI body vs 1.6 Mivec inside Satria 1.3 body is a tough fight.You are lighter but 1.8 mivec is higher displacement.Will be very close,probably unnoticeble. But if you put 1.8 Mivec inside your satria 1.3,you will have best in everything.Remember to get chasis strengthening (strut bars) and absorbers.

I recommend getting the 1.6 Mivec halfcut first,install it,get JPJ approval then only upgrade to 1.8 block (4G93P).BTW,for NA,displacement is most important for engine power,but if you have smaller displacement,chances are your car is lighter.Lighter car is better handling and more fun to drive.