Con Man in ebay.com.my

[jasonchan]

Hi

Anybody have ever encounter this or not.

1. u post item in ebay.com.my for let say RM100

2. somebody email u say wanna buy that item for RM500 without bidding.

3. then ask u to give bank account number

4. then u receive and email claiming from abnk of essex and say the buyer have pump money to your account.

5. u check account money not in. cause there is a clause in the email say u must post the item first to the buyer..

6. in the email all domain add is @fsmail.com

So do you guys think this is a fraud?

 

[rollakid]

i can't think of it as any other thing.... just ask him to bid lar.. i thought there is some imediate buy option on ebay right?

personally i'm very dissapointed in ebay malaysia. damn lar i wan look if there's any good used car part but found celcom prepaid pulak... and car club sticker also, isn't those for the member of the club only???

 

[zephyr3d]

Hi

Anybody have ever encounter this or not.

1. u post item in ebay.com.my for let say RM100

2. somebody email u say wanna buy that item for RM500 without bidding.

3. then ask u to give bank account number

4. then u receive and email claiming from abnk of essex and say the buyer have pump money to your account.

5. u check account money not in. cause there is a clause in the email say u must post the item first to the buyer..

6. in the email all domain add is @fsmail.com

So do you guys think this is a fraud?

post the item first? hmm... i'm not sure bout buying/selling over the internet.. but do they have insurance for the item u sell over ebay?

 

[jasonchan]

i dont think got insurance....

 

[rorytate]

some experience

Hi Guys,

I'm into this ecommerce thingy for the past 8 years as this is my work specialisation as well.

Some tips to note when purchasing online:

1: Liase via email for couple of round first. At least can find out if he is genuine buyer/seller or not.

2: If possible, make friends with them in a way that is sharing infos. Buyer/seller contacts you because they are interested with the item, also showing that they have the same interest with you. Also to find out if they are genuine.

3. There is no such case as deliver the product first in ecommerce world. Best if you can use a credit card. There is alot of protection for the buyer/seller if via credit card

4. Yes you can get insurance if courier via big logistic company such as Fedex or DHL, even TNT. The buyer just have to bear the insurance fee and logistic fee, which is quite costly if via the big logistic corp.

5. As a seller, always request for payment first(some deposit if you are playing with B2B). Then as a buyer, always ask for a tracking code or insurance eventho you have to pay for it.

Hope some of this points helps you to be a wiser buyer/seller. Meantime, i can only think of these few, i'll update if i recall more.

rgds

 

[astalavista_baby]

I say the safest way is to at least get a 50% downpayment for the thing first and then you can settle the rest later. There is no such thing as sending the item first before payment is done. No such thing in the real world and so is the virtual world. The best is if payment can be made in full. Doing so, things might favour you but not him. What if you were the conman? He'd be on the losing end.

Hence, I think the first option is still the best for both of you. Best is if you can do a credit card transaction or go through some e-commerce company which can aid to ensure that both parties are not conned. Always check on the identity of the buyer as well. Make sure they are genuine.

From the view of things, original thread starter, this might be a fraud since u said emails come from @fsmail.com. If the bank has a website and email address, the email adress would normally be utilising the banks website domain name.

 

[Happyman]

Use Paypal, easy and safe!!!

 

[astalavista_baby]

Use Paypal, easy and safe!!!

That's another good idea.

 

[HidSeller]

Con case .....
That only few safe way to receive money for Seller.
1. PayPal.
2. Western Union. (Safe for seller, u received cash on the spot)
3. Escrow. (but all porcedure have to go thru Escrow).

The rest don't trust.
Only send your item out when u 100% received the money and put in your POCKET.

That is thousand way to con or make fraud activity .....

Seller beware of this also :
If ur item is RM 50 and the seller send the money to you by other account or split to 5 time ...... u will get the cash but it will cause some problem in the future ......

 

[4agze]

hm.. i never trust ebay.com.my

 

[jasonchan]

Con case .....
Seller beware of this also :
If ur item is RM 50 and the seller send the money to you by other account or split to 5 time ...... u will get the cash but it will cause some problem in the future ......

can tell more??

 

[HidSeller]

can tell more??

if u got item for sell RM 500, B is intrested with your product but he split the payment (300 n 200) and send by C or D account ......

It might be fraud case cause C or D is buying the item from B but B ask C/D to send the money to you, so when u get the money, you realease the item to B but the money actually is C/D pay for B item, B just C/D fund to buy your item ....

so after some time C/D not receive the item, will make complaint to board with all deposit proof (ur bank account) ......

 

[GTR]

Use Paypal, easy and safe!!!

how to withdraw the $ if using paypal? i m facing this problem now as my UK customer oledi bank in the $ into my paypal account.

 

[skyline_maniac]

beware of online fraud!

Hi

Anybody have ever encounter this or not.

1. u post item in ebay.com.my for let say RM100

2. somebody email u say wanna buy that item for RM500 without bidding.

3. then ask u to give bank account number

4. then u receive and email claiming from abnk of essex and say the buyer have pump money to your account.

5. u check account money not in. cause there is a clause in the email say u must post the item first to the buyer..

6. in the email all domain add is @fsmail.com

So do you guys think this is a fraud?

Yup ....definately a fraud....
my friend just encountered this a few weeks ago....
posted up a sales thread in yahoo aution singapore....
then there is this buyer who emailed my friend stating that she is interested in buying the item from my friend....
the buyer told that she is from UK and is doing online e-commerce over another UK website....even forwarded the link to my friend....

so my friend exchanged a few emails with that buyer....and the buyer even states that she request for the item to be couriered over to UK via UPS....
so fine...friend went and enquired all the details for the courier....and passed the bank account for the buyer to bank in....

few days later......my friend received an email from HSBC saying that the buyer has already bank in the money but its put on hold and the money will be transfered over when the buyer receives the item...

the email address for the hsbc....doesnt not carry the hsbc.com but fsmail.net....
so my friend called up HSBC UK to double check with the HQ and they told my friend that HSBC does not issue such emails....

luckily my friend have not courier the items over....:confused_smile:
sigh.....there is a lot of fraud goin on out there in online based buy/sell transaction....so have to beware always....

here is the copy of the fake HSBC e-mail that my friend received....
i have censored the name and details...for privacy purposes....

 

[rorytate]

For all that has the paypal account and based in Malaysia.

YOU CANT GET YOUR MONEY unless your account is created in Singapore.....

otherwise, you can only pay but you cant collect your money

 

[jasonchan]

Yup ....definately a fraud....
my friend just encountered this a few weeks ago....
posted up a sales thread in yahoo aution singapore....
then there is this buyer who emailed my friend stating that she is interested in buying the item from my friend....
the buyer told that she is from UK and is doing online e-commerce over another UK website....even forwarded the link to my friend....

so my friend exchanged a few emails with that buyer....and the buyer even states that she request for the item to be couriered over to UK via UPS....
so fine...friend went and enquired all the details for the courier....and passed the bank account for the buyer to bank in....

few days later......my friend received an email from HSBC saying that the buyer has already bank in the money but its put on hold and the money will be transfered over when the buyer receives the item...

the email address for the hsbc....doesnt not carry the hsbc.com but fsmail.net....
so my friend called up HSBC UK to double check with the HQ and they told my friend that HSBC does not issue such emails....

luckily my friend have not courier the items over....:confused_smile:
sigh.....there is a lot of fraud goin on out there in online based buy/sell transaction....so have to beware always....

here is the copy of the fake HSBC e-mail that my friend received....
i have censored the name and details...for privacy purposes....

yup yours is same as mine...