Air or Nitrogen gas?

[Slipknot Fanatic]

Should I feel nitrogen gas in my tires because I heard nitrogen saves the tire even more than normal air. Is this true that normal air can cause tire blow out because its hotter than nitrogen gas.

 

[evan2000]

normal gas will explode?? unless u pump in very high pressure loh....more than max recommmended pressure.

Nitrogen gas claims to be better. But only one thing i can see is the tyre pressure more stable. Unlike normal gas will increase when hot.....

 

[acbc]

Well... I'm using Nitrogen for my tires... so far, not a single leak in 6 months! And since I travelled a lot... sometimes too lazy or forgotten to check tire pressure.

 

[prodigy]

Nitrogen's only advantage over air is that it doesn't expand under hot conditions therefore maintaining tire pressure. Maybe if you're into real high performance tuning, filing your tires with nitrogen will ensure your car will run in optimum wheel settings all the time.

However, it doesn't mean by filling nitrogen, you pressure won't escape. A nicely fitted tire will not lose is pressure easily where else if your foreman has been doing a crappy job, even you fill with air or nitrogen, it will also escape.

 

[acbc]

Nitrogen's only advantage over air is that it doesn't expand under hot conditions therefore maintaining tire pressure. Maybe if you're into real high performance tuning, filing your tires with nitrogen will ensure your car will run in optimum wheel settings all the time.

However, it doesn't mean by filling nitrogen, you pressure won't escape. A nicely fitted tire will not lose is pressure easily where else if your foreman has been doing a crappy job, even you fill with air or nitrogen, it will also escape.

True. But since nitrogen molecules are bigger than air, it still leaks... but slowly. Maybe in 3-6 months vs air at 3-6 weeks. Another plus, you can pump air into nitrogen filled tires for emergencies.

 

[huakenny]

where to pump nitrogen ar?

 

[Tohsan]

Load of places offering nitrogen now i.e Lim Tayar TTDI, a few shop in Taman Putra Ampang, Syarikat Kee Hin in Old Klang Road just to name a few :)

 

[eterna22]

a little off topic....try inhale nitrogen .... similar with cocain la ... dem highh

 

[SkYwAlKeR]

a little off topic....try inhale nitrogen .... similar with cocain la ... dem highh

haha... u tried ar??

anyway, got question wana ask since i dunno my car tyre use what air... > those petrol station pumps use nitrogen or normal gas ar??..
and those tyre shop use normally will pump what air into tyres??

 

[BLaCkHoWLiNG]

Nai-tro-jeeennnnn

 

[thteh86]

wah bryan...so fast reach home d ah?

 

[Yong_5290]

nitrogen u pump in tyre shop should cost u rm 5 4 each tyre...means total up 20...but make usre u pump ur spare tyre wit nitrogen also...so tat in emergency u can sure tat ur spare still got air...nitrogen hard 2 leak...takes damn long 2 leak..

 

[cldc2]

Nitrogen's only advantage over air is that it doesn't expand under hot conditions therefore maintaining tire pressure. Maybe if you're into real high performance tuning, filing your tires with nitrogen will ensure your car will run in optimum wheel settings all the time.

However, it doesn't mean by filling nitrogen, you pressure won't escape. A nicely fitted tire will not lose is pressure easily where else if your foreman has been doing a crappy job, even you fill with air or nitrogen, it will also escape.

yeaps, that just about says it. ;)

 

[AccordRacing]

i dont agree about that,now its say filling nitrogen,sure we have to idealism little bit tat the work is done perfect,if u say crappy work..then wat good stuff u install also got defect just becoz ur foreman crappy skill,the advantage of using nitrogen to fill in tyre oledi proven..just c u believe it or not

 

[AccordRacing]

simply description about tyre with nitrogen

http://www.twt.to/default.aspx?I=29

 

[prodigy]

i dont agree about that,now its say filling nitrogen,sure we have to idealism little bit tat the work is done perfect,if u say crappy work..then wat good stuff u install also got defect just becoz ur foreman crappy skill,the advantage of using nitrogen to fill in tyre oledi proven..just c u believe it or not

Thanks for sharing the website but i cannot help but ridicule the websites claim. Fair enough these nitrogen filled tires are used in Formula 1 and military but frankly, my car is no F1 car, so are the rest of the members here. Besides, i don't own a military plane too and i'm sure nobody here owns too. They should have at least came out with something very constructive and valid with necessary studies to back their claims. So whats the website trying to promote? F1 and military technology which i fail to see how does it help in our everyday life. Why do i think so :-

I can accept point 1 whereby they claim the tires won't lose pressure easily PROVIDING if the tires and/or wheels have no damage. 3 months back i changed 2 pcs of tyres and was shocked when the mechanic showed how bengkok my rim was. I swear i've not crash the car or landed very hard on any surface before but why the rim bengkok? Thanks to our road, sometimes you don't even know your rim got damage. No wonder i have to pump air almost every 3 week once.

Point 2, nitrogen is indeed an inert gas and doesn't catch fire. Have you guys, in your life seen a tire catch fire due to high speed travelling. In most cases, tires explode due to puncture caused by sharp objects, or because you've exceeded the tire lifespan. Never because the tire is too hot.

Point 3, by running your tyres cooler, your tyre life is extended by 20%. Thats the most audacious and bold statement i've ever heard. What, when you tires are cold, the rubber is harder, therefore less wear rate? Even in the wildest dream if this is true, then i'm gonna worry of the traction when the tires are run cool.

Lastly, "Feel the difference on the road and in your pocket". It surely burnt a big hole in anyone's pocket after paying RM25 to fill up my 5 tires whereby the only free thing in the world now is atmospheric air(thats used to pump my 5 tires now). Sheesh, and people are queuing up for 2 hours just to save 5 bucks on petrol.

 

[waja3348]

Actualy, i've changed my 4 tires last week n currently filled with nitrogen which cost me RM20 4 all tires. i have a few reasons for filling my tires with nitro.

1) Malaysia's weather is hot, so does the road. when our tires rolling at high speed, the air inside the tire will get hot & tends to expand (that's natural, dude!) thus, increase the pressure (psi) but when it gets cold, the original pressure will be much lower which require u to fill the air again. Unlike nitro, the gas is cold n when the tires rolling, the gas will also expand n lost in the air but the process will takes longer than our beloved air. therefore, the tire's pressure will almost the same all the time but WILL NOT HARDENED your tires!

2) it is recommended to fill the gas with ur new tires since the inner wall of ur tires r in mint condition. i will not recommend it if u have a few % of ur thread left.

3) I can top-up my nitro gas for FREE!! that's wat the tire shop guarantees me. ;)

 

[prodigy]

Which is exactly my point. The one major advantage of nitro over air is the fact it doesn't expand as much as air. And as i mentioned earlier, if you're really into high end tuning, then your tire pressure matters. Just like Formula 1 whereby even if they release a couple psi, the drivers will feel extra traction thru the corners. But as we drive daily on the roads where we seldom exceed 140kmh and don't take corners at 80kmh, would you seriously feel any difference when the air inside the tires expand?

Anyway, i didn't actually mean the tyre will hardened up. Its taken out of the original context.

 

[AccordRacing]

[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Q: What are the long-term benefits of Nitrogen filled tires?

A: Extended Tire Life
With tires maintaining better pressure, tire life can be significantly extended.

Oxidation is Eliminated
With Nitrogen, there is no more oxidation of inner liners, belt packages, valve stem hardware or air pressure monitoring devices.

Improved Retreadability
Nitrogen doesn’t cause tire rubber to break down as quickly as regular air and with the elimination of oxidation, Nitrogen filled truck tires have often had 4 or more retread lives.
Stronger casings = more retreads.

No More Rim Rust
Nitrogen is completely dry. Condensation is eliminated.

On the Road Reliability
Decreased tire failures reduce costly down time.[/font]
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