Lancer CVT with Supercharger

[marsha1l_v6]

Bro one simple thing,If you want performance, you have to spend, you think you buy legit performance car , everything will be ok and tahan lasak ?, Maintenance and wear and tear parts, will cost a bomb also, actually is up to you, I'm just advising you to chose the correct path on the mod, that's why you ask for opinion in the first place right?,

Modifying a car will a cost alot, if people think of the cost, nobody will be transplanting engines, but the end product will give you a good satisfaction, this is based on my POV. Tq

#hobikamimahal

Anyway, are all cvt prone to overheat?

I see.. That's explain it. No wonder when I high-speed cruise back Johor, lancer/inspira on and off right Lane.. One sec Kena cucuk by that car.. One sec sit at middle Lane

 

[Mitevo7]

Bro one simple thing,If you want performance, you have to spend, you think you buy legit performance car , everything will be ok and tahan lasak ?, Maintenance and wear and tear parts, will cost a bomb also, actually is up to you, I'm just advising you to chose the correct path on the mod, that's why you ask for opinion in the first place right?,

Modifying a car will a cost alot, if people think of the cost, nobody will be transplanting engines, but the end product will give you a good satisfaction, this is based on my POV. Tq

Yes that's right, i am ready to spend but within a rational level, if its exceeds a level where i can pay cash for another performance but older car, i will do it without second heart beat. Supercharger seems like a better alternative to turbo CVT, you just need an extra larger cooler and ensure your gearbox is still healthy as it is.

Thanks,
Ken

 

[Mitevo7]

#hobikamimahal

Anyway, are all cvt prone to overheat?

I see.. That's explain it. No wonder when I high-speed cruise back Johor, lancer/inspira on and off right Lane.. One sec Kena cucuk by that car.. One sec sit at middle Lane

All auto gearbox is prone to overheat, just CVT is much easier prone to overheat. Up to date, i never seen overheating alert on my Lancer CVT. Just recently it whined a bit when going uphil genting, but that has never happened before for the past 10 years. My guess is the CVT cooler is under performing and needs an upgarde.

Thanks,
Ken

 

[Mitevo7]

Forced Induction already different feel totally.......lol

Woooi what's that supposed to mean? You want poison me much?

Ken

 

[hon_cs]

All auto gearbox is prone to overheat, just CVT is much easier prone to overheat. Up to date, i never seen overheating alert on my Lancer CVT. Just recently it whined a bit when going uphil genting, but that has never happened before for the past 10 years. My guess is the CVT cooler is under performing and needs an upgarde.

Thanks,
Ken

Probably my case different due to full load went uphill. Highway speeding so far never hit warning before. Mileage going to touch 100k and yes the aeroplane sound is obvious. Replace cvt filter and full flush may improve. Have you try it?

 

[vr2turbo]

Woooi what's that supposed to mean? You want poison me much?

Ken

Been there done that lah! Mine was more drastic since is 2.0 AT to 2.0T MT some more. No joke the feel is totally different. Of course now so many years already got used to it dy.......hhahaha

 

[Mitevo7]

Probably my case different due to full load went uphill. Highway speeding so far never hit warning before. Mileage going to touch 100k and yes the aeroplane sound is obvious. Replace cvt filter and full flush may improve. Have you try it?

Yup done all major maintenance already, new fluid (flushed), new CVT filter. The whining sound came only when i am climbing uphill aggressively. Other than that, driving high speed on highways at 170km/h quiet as shit. Mine only start making that noise when touching 201k km's. Not gonna complain but i think this gearbox has been very faithful to me, may be its just ... OLD ... but let's see after upgrading to a larger CVT cooler changes anything, otherwise, prepare for gearbox change. Then see this Supercharge idea can live on or not.

Thanks,
Ken

 

[Mitevo7]

Been there done that lah! Mine was more drastic since is 2.0 AT to 2.0T MT some more. No joke the feel is totally different. Of course now so many years already got used to it dy.......hhahaha

I can't swap to MT, KL roads, arghhh !! After full day of work just needed a relaxing drive and occasionally some hoon. Any idea how to import a Ralliart halfcut on my own? My friend can help me store the half cut with his warehouse so i am checking out how difficult it is to import my own halfcut without third party's help.

Thanks,
Ken

 

[vr2turbo]

I can't swap to MT, KL roads, arghhh !! After full day of work just needed a relaxing drive and occasionally some hoon. Any idea how to import a Ralliart halfcut on my own? My friend can help me store the half cut with his warehouse so i am checking out how difficult it is to import my own halfcut without third party's help.

Thanks,
Ken

No need MT also can, the difference still will be great.
Not sure if you need any license to import. Other then that if you got contact for supplier you can liaise with them on shipment procedure. Here you will need a clearing agent to process clearance and tax/duty matters and transport to your warehouse

 

[Mitevo7]

No need MT also can, the difference still will be great.
Not sure if you need any license to import. Other then that if you got contact for supplier you can liaise with them on shipment procedure. Here you will need a clearing agent to process clearance and tax/duty matters and transport to your warehouse

Wow seems tough, but i got a contact who can do those for me with a price. For now let's keep the topic of supercharging. Rotrex now has this new variable speed supercharger VC8 with both electrical and mechanical inputs. Seems like an interesting setup for CVT. The benefits of this variable speed charger:

High boost at low engine rpm
Ideal for single or dual boosting
Transient response <300 ms
Uniquely small weight and size
Low power consumption
Voltage range 12-48V
“Infinite” gear ratio (Sounds like CVT to me)
Ideal for heavily downsized engines

Thanks,
Ken

 

[sanekit]

Did anyone read the link or not? You see the dyno chart below, his torque from 168lbft went down to 109lbft but the power increase is from 105whp went up to 178whp.

I guess the tuner lower down the torque to gain more HP. :hmmmm:

 

[vr2turbo]

hmmm... not terbalik?

 

[sanekit]

hmmm... not terbalik?

i dont think so coz u see the crosshair color there yellow and green. or maybe it is terbalik i also dont know. coz the yellow numbers looks like the final results.

 

[Mitevo7]

Did anyone read the link or not? You see the dyno chart below, his torque from 168lbft went down to 109lbft but the power increase is from 105whp went up to 178whp.

I guess the tuner lower down the torque to gain more HP. :hmmmm:

My guess is the parasitic effect of supercharger at lower rpm. Some feedback that it will happen to supercharged engine because its belt driven operation or other stuffs that i don't really know how to explain .

And also the first chart is torque and second chart is hp. By right it should've increased instead of decreasing ?

 

[sanekit]

My guess is the parasitic effect of supercharger at lower rpm. Some feedback that it will happen to supercharged engine because its belt driven operation or other stuffs that i don't really know how to explain .

And also the first chart is torque and second chart is hp. By right it should've increased instead of decreasing ?

if like that meaning the bottom torque line is the final run result? that line looks like no boost and very flat. :hmmmm::hmmmm:

 

[vr2turbo]

if like that meaning the bottom torque line is the final run result? that line looks like no boost and very flat. :hmmmm::hmmmm:

But bottom two lines are thick line, the top two are faint line....No?

 

[vr2turbo]

My guess is the parasitic effect of supercharger at lower rpm. Some feedback that it will happen to supercharged engine because its belt driven operation or other stuffs that i don't really know how to explain .

And also the first chart is torque and second chart is hp. By right it should've increased instead of decreasing ?

Super charger even though belt driven improves both torque and power. Why install if you are losing torque.....lol
The idea of the Lancia Delta rally car having both super and turbo fitted is to get both low end and high end torque/power.....

 

[sanekit]

But bottom two lines are thick line, the top two are faint line....No?

that's why i'm confused as well. the crosshair in yellow and result in yellow for the hp shows gain but the torque show's it's losing it.

 

[Mitevo7]

if like that meaning the bottom torque line is the final run result? that line looks like no boost and very flat. :hmmmm::hmmmm:

Well logically, supercharged should make the engine more powerful I think they might messed up the charts. The blue line should be the results of supercharged.

Thanks,
Ken

 

[sanekit]

Well logically, supercharged should make the engine more powerful I think they might messed up the charts. The blue line should be the results of supercharged.

Thanks,
Ken

This makes me wonder as well coz when i check the specs on mitsubishi website, the Lancer EX torque is 20.1kgm at 4200rpm stock for the 2.0 (INVECS III 6spd CVT) and 15.7kgm at 4k rpm for the 1.6 (INVECS II 4 speed). His chart before the run (if we got it correctly) was around 15kgm, and after the run is 23.3kgm.

Or maye he did lose torque coz the tuner set it that way to save his CVT from blowing up? :hmmmm: