Evo masters , pls advice

[Mistaken_Identity]

Alamak??? Then how to get a head (do u mean the block?)? Can i just find a engine kosong a replace the block?

Will it be a major work? if prolong the problem what will happen? Since there is no sign of brownish color frm my engine oil, should i change to a thicker metal head gasket?

Lastly,is Evo 5,6,7,8,9 all the same?

Don't worry bro....Pablo have the head c/w 272 HKS cam for sale..!!!! Just plug & play jer..!!!

 

[jameswwt]

Don't worry bro....Pablo have the head c/w 272 HKS cam for sale..!!!! Just plug & play jer..!!!

Haiyoh...But Pablo stuffs is for Rocket lol...Where can a car put in a Rocket parts...hehe

MI ah...Ive heard so much abt you but belum betui betui meet you in person la...Bila jumpa next time i fill up form and join TTS Club ya...

 

[Not_Bad!!]

cool down bro!!...hehehe

exactly theres a lot of checking need to be done for buying a car that more than 5 years old coz before that maybe the car being fix with so many teory or skill but it always can be solve....

statement to support my thought...did u guys ever heard someone saying that with taking out the water thermostat could cool the engine temp better?think most of u have heard it..but what we doesnt realize that something is create for some purpose like this thermostat is using by separating the cool water n hot water in the engine...that will make sure the metal life at the block can be longer without easily being crack or something only coz about the water temp...
that is 1 example statement...

what i am saying is....u can done lot of test,u can see many sifu but just relax..enjoy the car as u are the new owner after buying it...hehehehe...

head will not easily bengkok...what i mean about the test,when u see if the head bengkok the water are being push out so high from the radiator till it could splash at ur face if u put ur face above the radiator cap housing..coz when the head bengkok the compression in the engine will run into the water line..thats why the water being push out...then the engine oil will be changing colour like 'lumpur' mud coz the water got into it for some cases...

think the best u need to bring it for major checking first....
the water could be gone at many places...
-waterpunp
-waterpump pipe
-radiator hose
-bypass hose
-water jacket(this type of leaking could be the 'devil among others}coz this part is like a 50cent coin size..got many at the engine block n some engine also got 1 pc at the block that sit between the block n the gearbox means need to take out the gearbox then u will find it...

so,just standby some extra cash for this type of major checking so u could enjoy the car as u are the new owner?opsss...forgot asking u have bought the car already or not??hehehe....maybe 'berapi' after this at the road front of ur house.....hehehe

 

[PabloIceman]

Don't worry bro....Pablo have the head c/w 272 HKS cam for sale..!!!! Just plug & play jer..!!!

Haiyoh...But Pablo stuffs is for Rocket lol...Where can a car put in a Rocket parts...hehe

MI ah...Ive heard so much abt you but belum betui betui meet you in person la...Bila jumpa next time i fill up form and join TTS Club ya...

Basket MI ... that head jual already laa ... tarak $$$ maa .. so convert back to original stock head.

Btw, James ... E5-8 head same ... E9 difference is that the cams are Mivec so have oil drillings for the mivec on the head. If want to use, kena plug. But what i heard from mechanics is that it's not so easy to plug (or ensure that the plug is seal tight for the oil).

Head is head (it holds your valves, springs guide, camshafts). Short block is short block where your crankshaft, piston rod and piston is). Both of the are separated by the metal head gasket.
Both Head + short block is called complete engine (or sometimes referred as Long Block) ....

 

[DDgreystar]

very good explaination; in this case, I maybe also having similar sypmtoms too.....but in a way if your compression is OK.....try to be just a little bit more conscious whenever u go for speedruns, and standby additional water just for filling up....

mine is even worse....the white water bottle fully filled up always kena suck dry after some SIC track days.....it can dry up so fast dat....even by re filling up again....by the time i get back from SIC to home....it is dry again....need to refill 1 more time....then everything is OK

so far this symptom has been around for 3 yrs I would say.....mech has checked on it....but still OK la...touchwood, n engine is still strong going :D

 

[PabloIceman]

DD, maybe it's time for u to upgrade your head studs TOMEI or ARP. Maybe the cylic fatigue life for your studs already reach the end liao ..

Mine after changing the studs to ARP along with the metal head gasket no more the sypmtoms u mentioned above liao. Of course i running on pre-mix coolant without water. Hardly any need to top up. From service to service, renew the pre-mix coolant. Just sharing some info.

 

[DDgreystar]

good point !!!! you are spot on PABLO.....the head was modded with full cam kit just minus the studs which i missed out on ......yes talking abt headstuds, my bro did remind me b4....I guess now since this has been brought up, it could be very well the root cause to the scenario I am facing.....anyways thanks for sharing your personal exp. too Pablo, again, very good n detailed spot on explaination !!

 

[SatriaCKC]

you are all my heroes man... A million thanks .. I think i identified the problem already.. Should be the head gasket.(never though of that though) First i was worries about the crack in block. I'm much relieved now... Fingers crossed , i shall be a new MLOC member soon..

 

[victorlaw]

Nice thread.... ^^ I too bought an Evo 5 around 4 months ago. As its an old car, there is bound to be wear n tear parts. Spent quite alot of money in this 4 months also. No choice. Have to set aside abit of cash for that.

In order to really enjoy the car, no choice but to bring it up to tiptop condition again. Or else it can be rather frustrating...

 

[Not_Bad!!]

hmmmm.....how to say...pro n con buying these performance cars...even bought a recond E8 from the showroom also spend lots lots of money also....this is because MLOC 'otai'2 car on the road lorrr...makes us wanna transform our ride like their superb eye catching ride too...hehehehehe....sorry guys...

 

[Mistaken_Identity]

Haiyoh...But Pablo stuffs is for Rocket lol...Where can a car put in a Rocket parts...hehe

MI ah...Ive heard so much abt you but belum betui betui meet you in person la...Bila jumpa next time i fill up form and join TTS Club ya...

Hohohohoho..... What did all the buggers told U about me...??? Don't U ever believed a word that they said... Regarding the TTS Group, U can download the membership form from the website www.i'msohamsaplikethegroupfounder.com.my By the way, I'm straight orientation.....

Pablo : Really aaa...??? Damn I'm outdated....

 

[PabloIceman]

Yes laaa ...e.jump /Nizam is the buyer ....

 

[Mistaken_Identity]

Yes laaa ...e.jump /Nizam is the buyer ....

Hohohoho...Next time don't wanna convoy with M'cca MLOC laaa like this.... All MONSTERS lehhh...!!!

 

[PabloIceman]

good point !!!! you are spot on PABLO.....the head was modded with full cam kit just minus the studs which i missed out on ......yes talking abt headstuds, my bro did remind me b4....I guess now since this has been brought up, it could be very well the root cause to the scenario I am facing.....anyways thanks for sharing your personal exp. too Pablo, again, very good n detailed spot on explaination !!

No worries Jacob ... that's what the Forum is for ... hope your problem is solved soon!!

you are all my heroes man... A million thanks .. I think i identified the problem already.. Should be the head gasket.(never though of that though) First i was worries about the crack in block. I'm much relieved now... Fingers crossed , i shall be a new MLOC member soon..

SatriaCKC, hope your problem is solved soon too and U can join MLOC for the events etc.

James, doesn't mean that thicker metal head gasket is better. U need to check your compression ratio.

 

[DDgreystar]

Hey Pablo,

I got a question since this thread is for evo sifu like u :D

How can I improve my current car performance in terms of torque, currently having stock turbo + stock engine, current torque level is 39 , wat can I do to UP it into 43 ?

cheers.....

 

[PabloIceman]

Hey Pablo,

I got a question since this thread is for evo sifu like u :D

How can I improve my current car performance in terms of torque, currently having stock turbo + stock engine, current torque level is 39 , wat can I do to UP it into 43 ?

cheers.....

Aiya Jacob .. i'm not evo sifu like Lanevo6, Lanevo, Leslie, Ben, Ah Kit, Azizi and a few others here laa ... i only started like 2 years ago only ... my knowledge limited ...

If me, i would do these few things leaving the stock turbo and engine internals alone ...

Intercooler (u can opt to maintain with your current stock intercooler) and pipings (customised is cheaper), racing radiator (better cooling) 272 cams and adjustable cam pulleys, metal head gasket (suggest since u going to change the metal head gasket, then replace the head studs also). Fuel injector to 650cc, fuel regulator, fuel rail, fuel pump (walbros 255lph cheap & direct replacement for stock). U may want to rebore your existing throttle body also .. since only slight increase, your stock clutch should be fine. if u want to change to aftermarket also can ... super single or hyper single ..

Of course, your ECU need a re-tune/re-flash ...

can check out the thread "how to modified to 400hp ..." in this section ... lots of different set-up ... cheaper alternative is something like the above that i would go for ..

Or u can do what Lancer7981 did .. he bought my camshaft adjustable pulleys and adj. on it .. by the tuner/mechanic ... but need a good mechanic to do that without damaging your engine ... basically advance the injection timing for more torquey feel ..

 

[evolution9682]

Aiya Jacob .. i'm not evo sifu like Lanevo6, Lanevo, Leslie, Ben, Ah Kit, Azizi and a few others here laa ... i only started like 2 years ago only ... my knowledge limited ...

If me, i would do these few things leaving the stock turbo and engine internals alone ...

Intercooler (u can opt to maintain with your current stock intercooler) and pipings (customised is cheaper), racing radiator (better cooling) 272 cams and adjustable cam pulleys, metal head gasket (suggest since u going to change the metal head gasket, then replace the head studs also). Fuel injector to 650cc, fuel regulator, fuel rail, fuel pump (walbros 255lph cheap & direct replacement for stock). U may want to rebore your existing throttle body also .. since only slight increase, your stock clutch should be fine. if u want to change to aftermarket also can ... super single or hyper single ..

Of course, your ECU need a re-tune/re-flash ...

can check out the thread "how to modified to 400hp ..." in this section ... lots of different set-up ... cheaper alternative is something like the above that i would go for ..

Or u can do what Lancer7981 did .. he bought my camshaft adjustable pulleys and adj. on it .. by the tuner/mechanic ... but need a good mechanic to do that without damaging your engine ... basically advance the injection timing for more torquey feel ..

All depend on how deep is ur pocket to upgrade ur ride.U want,u pay,u play the game.Jz do it,man...

 

[ley]

Aiya Jacob .. i'm not evo sifu like Paul, Lanevo6, Lanevo, Leslie, Ben, Ah Kit, Azizi and a few others here laa ...

1 of d evo master has spoken!

 

[jameswwt]

cool down bro!!...hehehe

exactly theres a lot of checking need to be done for buying a car that more than 5 years old coz before that maybe the car being fix with so many teory or skill but it always can be solve....

statement to support my thought...did u guys ever heard someone saying that with taking out the water thermostat could cool the engine temp better?think most of u have heard it..but what we doesnt realize that something is create for some purpose like this thermostat is using by separating the cool water n hot water in the engine...that will make sure the metal life at the block can be longer without easily being crack or something only coz about the water temp...
that is 1 example statement...

what i am saying is....u can done lot of test,u can see many sifu but just relax..enjoy the car as u are the new owner after buying it...hehehehe...

head will not easily bengkok...what i mean about the test,when u see if the head bengkok the water are being push out so high from the radiator till it could splash at ur face if u put ur face above the radiator cap housing..coz when the head bengkok the compression in the engine will run into the water line..thats why the water being push out...then the engine oil will be changing colour like 'lumpur' mud coz the water got into it for some cases...

think the best u need to bring it for major checking first....
the water could be gone at many places...
-waterpunp
-waterpump pipe
-radiator hose
-bypass hose
-water jacket(this type of leaking could be the 'devil among others}coz this part is like a 50cent coin size..got many at the engine block n some engine also got 1 pc at the block that sit between the block n the gearbox means need to take out the gearbox then u will find it...

so,just standby some extra cash for this type of major checking so u could enjoy the car as u are the new owner?opsss...forgot asking u have bought the car already or not??hehehe....maybe 'berapi' after this at the road front of ur house.....hehehe

Hi Not Bad,
what a comforting advise and sharing...

Now im not to bothered abt the water leak problem or any other problem aledi...
I just wana enjoy my ride...

 

[PabloIceman]

All depend on how deep is ur pocket to upgrade ur ride.U want,u pay,u play the game.Jz do it,man...

Yes, very true .... must know your limits (car, pocket and self) .....

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1 of d evo master has spoken!

No laaa ... How to measure up to the Evo Legend Master .....

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Hi Not Bad,
what a comforting advise and sharing...

Now im not to bothered abt the water leak problem or any other problem aledi...
I just wana enjoy my ride...

James, b4 enjoying yr ride ... need to iron out all these small (but may turn out big later and costlier repairs) issues ... otherwise sangkut at tengah jalan also boring lor ...