KD Tunku Abdul Rahman - Malaysian 1st Submarine

[Saga Continue]

what i mean is...the purpose of this sub is useless to us because our own country military equipment are already outdated...so they should look into upgrade rather then get this two sub....

all branches got upgrade la brader....army got their tanks, a battery of new MLRS and recently postponed eurocopter, Air force got sukhoi and aermacchi.....navy got subs and possibility next 6 NGPV laaaaa....

but personally what i think the tank is the most unusefull....through my humble understanding of warfare laaa

 

[kelisa6009]

all branches got upgrade la brader....army got their tanks, a battery of new MLRS and recently postponed eurocopter, Air force got sukhoi and aermacchi.....navy got subs and possibility next 6 NGPV laaaaa....

but personally what i think the tank is the most unusefull....through my humble understanding of warfare laaa

thanks for all the info...seems like i need to read more newspaper liaw..thanks

 

[AD_EG]

alantuya case not closed...just pushed aside and ignored like all the other cases...just waiting for hotter news to be generated and hope the old news will just die down...

 

[XTEC]

From the past. Jet fighter,helicopter,short range bom all terhempas due to what? Technical problem. Near future sub marine terhampas pula wa ha ha. If u happen to go Jb maybe u can visit to our national tank storage. Semua rosak tak boleh pakai due to romour say no spare part due to discontinue model. Maybe this will happen to this sub marine also.

And after that they say " our national sub marine sudah pun tua" kena upgrade lar weh.
Then another 2nd episod will continue. If u know what I mean.

 

[Saga Continue]

From the past. Jet fighter,helicopter,short range bom all terhempas due to what? Technical problem. Near future sub marine terhampas pula wa ha ha. If u happen to go Jb maybe u can visit to our national tank storage. Semua rosak tak boleh pakai due to romour say no spare part due to discontinue model. Maybe this will happen to this sub marine also.

And after that they say " our national sub marine sudah pun tua" kena upgrade lar weh.
Then another 2nd episod will continue. If u know what I mean.

so your suggestion is dont buy at all or buy when the technology wont be progressing anymore?

and..PT 91 is a tank...and tank regiment is in PD....what you see in JB is ol sibmass or panhart armoured personel carrier (APC) or also known as Infantry Fighting Vehicle (IFV) or...fondly known as Battle Taxi....again its not a tank...

 

[AXXeLL]

i don’t know about u fellas, but I think it’s a good purchase.

I don’t know why some of you are howling about the purchase of this submarine... Knowing that our infantry, army, fighter jet and all are outdated... it’s time we got something new and be proud about. It’s not the matter of useful or not... but its portraying our nation’s strength...

Think here, why is India and North Korea having nuclear power even though their nation is in poverty? Do you think they rationalise if it’s useful or not? Or is it contributing to the people in anyway?! sigh !

 

[XTEC]

so your suggestion is dont buy at all or buy when the technology wont be progressing anymore?

and..PT 91 is a tank...and tank regiment is in PD....what you see in JB is ol sibmass or panhart armoured personel carrier (APC) or also known as Infantry Fighting Vehicle (IFV) or...fondly known as Battle Taxi....again its not a tank...

my suggestion is , if want to purchase. buy thing with latest technology & not secondhand.
and with our nation financial capability is more than can afford ler weh.

as u see previous history in lumut our nation sub marine maker, i think with tat kind of money they invest i think is more than enough to purchase new one.

and yet if we had the new technology can they really maintain it.

so u do observed all the army vehicle idling parking down there.

 

[Saga Continue]

my suggestion is , if want to purchase. buy thing with latest technology & not secondhand.
and with our nation financial capability is more than can afford ler weh.

as u see previous history in lumut our nation sub marine maker, i think with tat kind of money they invest i think is more than enough to purchase new one.

and yet if we had the new technology can they really maintain it.

so u do observed all the army vehicle idling parking down there.

agreed we should buy the latest technology...but at no restriction from supplier country...but latest mean also in 10-20 years it will be obsolete unless u do a LEP(Life extension programe). If u know how fast is obsolete in the military world is...or MiG 29N is considered obsolete by now....hopefully they upgrades the avionics and radar system to extend the life for another 10 years

PSC naval dockyards never build submarine....a private entrepenaur bought second hand submarine and expect the gov to buy from them....i think you mistaken NGPV project...

yes i do...and if im not mistaken we are in the process of replacing them...i think the panhard is already 40 years ol', sibmas is 20+ and so do condor....they looking for new 8x8 but i dont expect to see till end of of 2015....

 

[XTEC]

agreed we should buy the latest technology...but at no restriction from supplier country...but latest mean also in 10-20 years it will be obsolete unless u do a LEP(Life extension programe). If u know how fast is obsolete in the military world is...or MiG 29N is considered obsolete by now....hopefully they upgrades the avionics and radar system to extend the life for another 10 years

PSC naval dockyards never build submarine....a private entrepenaur bought second hand submarine and expect the gov to buy from them....i think you mistaken NGPV project...

yes i do...and if im not mistaken we are in the process of replacing them...i think the panhard is already 40 years ol', sibmas is 20+ and so do condor....they looking for new 8x8 but i dont expect to see till end of of 2015....

bro what i hear in lumut is they rebuild 2 kapal selam dan masuk air or tenggelam ler, but i dont know is a FACT or romours.

but this what i found PSC-Naval Dockyard - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Saga Continue]

bro what i hear in lumut is they rebuild 2 kapal selam dan masuk air or tenggelam ler, but i dont know is a FACT or romours.

but this what i found PSC-Naval Dockyard - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

read it bro....they didnt bought from the dutch company...they bought from DCN....the second subs is supposed to pancing the government of buying them....

 

[XTEC]

read it bro....they didnt bought from the dutch company...they bought from DCN....the second subs is supposed to pancing the government of buying them....

bro ya is true that they brought it from DCN after that, but initial plan is to rebuild at lumut base.
but after so much speculation the 2 submarine is hilang dont know go where.

here are the pic 2 sub marine capture in goggle maps in 2007.

Lumut, Perak Malaysia - Google Maps

but all this info no concrete evidence to prove it.

 

[Saga Continue]

tak hilang la bro....go lumut its still there...apparently the dutch company cant afford to bring it back to holland and also cant afford to pay the docking fee till they can find a buyer.....

 

[XTEC]

tak hilang la bro....go lumut its still there...apparently the dutch company cant afford to bring it back to holland and also cant afford to pay the docking fee till they can find a buyer.....

oh ic, so what happen to 2 submarine there??why they stop the project

btw i do find malaysian navy forum here they comment.

http://www.navy.mil.my/component/option,com_smf/Itemid,29/lang,en/action,printpage/topic,155.0

this is what they comment "sudah jual kat tokey besi buruk" wa ka ka ka ka

 

[xaffb18c]

Our police gets their upgrades..Exp EVO X.......Our army also gets their upgrades..Exp..KDTAR submarine....hurm...I wonder when will our fireman will get their upgrades?????:bandit:

 

[Saga Continue]

Our police gets their upgrades..Exp EVO X.......Our army also gets their upgrades..Exp..KDTAR submarine....hurm...I wonder when will our fireman will get their upgrades?????:bandit:

our fireman already got Mi8 heli what...free summore...courtesy of our police...

 

[subcon]

given that our motherland is surrounded by water then i think the submarine is an essential purchase.

anyway guys take a look at this video..i know it got nothing to do with submarine but its something interesting for us to watch.

http://www.factualtv.com/documentary/The-Pirate-Patrols

 

[spockret]

oh ic, so what happen to 2 submarine there??why they stop the project

btw i do find malaysian navy forum here they comment.

http://www.navy.mil.my/component/option,com_smf/Itemid,29/lang,en/action,printpage/topic,155.0

this is what they comment "sudah jual kat tokey besi buruk" wa ka ka ka ka

thats true.....both 2 old submarine already timbang kilo if not mistaken 2years ago.....

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given that our motherland is surrounded by water then i think the submarine is an essential purchase.

anyway guys take a look at this video..i know it got nothing to do with submarine but its something interesting for us to watch.

http://www.factualtv.com/documentary/The-Pirate-Patrols

i dont know whether its true or not but what i heard from my fren that involve with this project is this new sub marine juz can go 70metre.....

 

[TitanRev]

SC, don't know will My military consider buying M1 Abrams?..Hehehe I'm still looking around to see can find Pzh 2000 Howitzer or not.

Does our military have FGM-148 Javelin missiles..I really like that weapon system. I played a simulation of it in the CA military museum..very fun..Hahaha

 

[mick87]

bro ya is true that they brought it from DCN after that, but initial plan is to rebuild at lumut base.
but after so much speculation the 2 submarine is hilang dont know go where.

here are the pic 2 sub marine capture in goggle maps in 2007.

Lumut, Perak Malaysia - Google Maps

but all this info no concrete evidence to prove it.

i hv seen the two sub b4 bout 5 6 yrs ago in lumut,the sub still here ke?? abandoned,or kena tarik by bank? wasted la like tat,put there so long.,they shud convert to underwater taxi ma..

 

[Vagabond]

stupid Gov.

spend all the money on "potential" future external threats.

but never take care of current internal threats like rempits, snatch thieves, rapists, politicians, etc.