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Your Opinion: Should All F1 Teams Run On One Standard Engine?

f2003-engineFormula 1 is the epitome of automotive technology and the fierce rivalry between all the competing teams fuels the constant push for technological superiority. With the growing trend of multi-billionaire funded teams, there is an endless budget for R&D, an essential process needed to ensure a teams competitive advantage. To also ensure a level playing field, numerous laws and regulations have been put in place but as almost all binding words, there are loopholes.

These discrepencies benefit those that are capable of exploiting it and in F1’s case, those that have the financial means to do so. That naturally leads to an uneven racing field with some top competitors having up to 30hp more than others. Take the Italian GP for example, Sebastian Vettel’s utter domination in the wet and dry took many by suprise and naturally it evoked cynicism.

” The young German drives for Scuderia Toro Rosso, which essentially – and controversially – runs the same cars as the senior Red Bull Racing team, only with one major difference: the engine. While RBR uses Renault engines, STR is powered by Ferrari. And according to Red Bull chief Christian Horner, the performance advantage which Ferrari has cultivated over Renault is what allowed Vettel to beat out the Renault-powered Red Bull cars, to say nothing of the rest of the field.” – AutoBlog

Horner insists Renault has stuck to the rules while others like Ferrari, Mclaren and BMW have achieved a power advantage by capitalizing on the loopholes. “We don’t need an engine formula to completely open up,” said Horner, “but there should be a parity as much as possible among the engine suppliers – otherwise we will all end up with one engine at the end of the day.”

So that brings me to what I wanted to ask you, should Formula 1 feature standardised engines?

In my opinion, no! They should maintain their current position as it promotes competition, engineering and technological brilliance, as well as outright performance that could and should be transferred to road cars, cars that people like you and I lust over. Plus F1 has always been about beautiful, twisiting, loud engines built by  serious competitors in the hope that their engine would outperform the others. Enzo Ferrari once said, “aerodynamics are only for those that do not know how to build good engines”, and somehow I cant agree with him any more.

So no, Formula 1 should not be put on another boring legislative leash that impedes brilliance, but that’s just me. Let’s hear you.

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    v12
  • Sep 22, 2008
for me i may suggest to remove the rev limiter at current 19000rpm(as how many they manage to go)not to restrict the power and add back the traction control
as well back to v12 era with turbo charge drinking ethanol with catalytic converter in

what i mean is DON'T FREEZE THE ENGINE
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    savahn
  • Sep 22, 2008
No. If I wanted to have a standardised engine rule, I'd watch A1GP.

An uneven field is good. If there should be any changes, then there should be relaxation of the rules on the engine for those manufacturers behind in the standings.
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    yn_hell
  • Sep 22, 2008
standardizing de engine=not pushing the limit of engine development=no fun.
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    mansix6
  • Sep 22, 2008
v12 on September 22nd, 2008 12:02 am
for me i may suggest to remove the rev limiter at current 19000rpm(as how many they manage to go)

yupppssss!!....so then we'll see who's got the ballss...
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    A1diablo
  • Sep 22, 2008
Ha haa.. Is F1 losing confidence? It's flattering to hear that F1 may want to try and emulate some of the values in A1GP but we seriously don't need an FA1GP. F1 should stay as F1 and should not dilute it's image as the cutting edge of motorsport technology. I say screw the engine freeze, let it rev to 100,000rpm and if this means that private teams will go bankrupt so be it. There will always be manufacturers who would want to buy them out and race. And when the manufacturers lose interest the privateers will come back. We need to realize that the actual personnel in F1 teams remain the same regardless of who pays their salaries.

The most important asset I think are the fans and they will watch F1 so long as F1 is remains F1.
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    drM
  • Sep 22, 2008
say no to standardized engine, but having say that, rules that limit/ define the capacity of the engine are all welcomed.

the tuning/ tweakings will be key in this area and that promotes a very healthy technical developments.

Toyota spent 400million dollars on its F1 team and i cant expect lesser teams like Torro Rosso or Williams to challenge that. even stoddart's minardi last time, went bust after spending highest ever 100million.

but torro rosso and williams did quite well actually, considering they buy engines, previous ones from established names i.e cosworth/ ferrari.
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    alangbudi
  • Sep 22, 2008
Agreed with savahn, there is already A1, F1 is in another different league, so why wanna downgrade.
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    crazykatak
  • Sep 22, 2008
bring back days of full slicks , turbo-charged V8's , free rev-ving engines..
f1 is the pinnacle of motorsports and viewed worldwide..it should be different than a1. i remembered season 2001/2002 where BMW engine reportedly redlined at 30000 rpm and pushing 900-1000bhp..but the engine couldn't be used legally for the season due to ever changing rules..

a1 --> world cup of motorsports
f1 --> the father of 'em all
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    A1diablo
  • Sep 22, 2008
Interestingly, Scuderia Toro Rosso is the old Minardi team. Even as STR they were somewhat considered as a back end team, with Super Aguri. Many of teh personnel during tehir Minardi days are still there.

The engineer on the pit radio congratulating Vettel when he won was Alex Yoong's data engineer when they were Minardi
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    A1diablo
  • Sep 22, 2008
crazykatak, BMW was pushing 20,000rpm not 30,000 and churning as you said over 900hp. As nice as 30,000 sounds it's still not doable.. yet though not impossible

At one time many' many years ago there were plenty of teams in F1 and it was sometimes normal to see some smaller back end teams not making the 107% qualifying rule. Yes in those days (not that long, early 90s) there were teams who actually DNQ. These days its unheard of. We only see DNF, sometimes DNS.
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    crazykatak
  • Sep 22, 2008
A1diablo : hohohoho..opps , mistake there. thx for correcting it.
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    netmatrix
  • Sep 24, 2008
No way!!!! If there is a standard engine, then there would be no engine technology development by the other manufacturers. And then most of them would be forced to develop engines in track races like DTM, blah blah. And you won;t see big engines being developed. But then again, everyone is going enviromental, so big engines should be phased out soon.

Anyway The point is, people want to see rivalry from team, manufacturers and drivers. Not just drivers alone.
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    lonely driver
  • Sep 24, 2008
no same engine, no electronics aid
the race should depend on the drivers and the cars and F1 is about thrills
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    slick
  • Sep 29, 2008
Definitely no standardised engine.

They should adopt the handicap(success ballast) system used by the JGTC/Super GT, where when a driver wins the race, weights will be added to his car for the next race (weight penalties on race winners).

This will promote better competition between teams regardless of funding.
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    khencana
  • Oct 6, 2008
vtec b20b turbo!!!

A1 car with prannnnnnggggg..........
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