i was kinda suprise as like many of us thought the stock rb20 and 25 turbines were bushing turbo's but they are actually ball bearing ceramics... i just found out when i dismental my turbo and found bearing in them.. i confoirm with Tong Turbo and they are ball bearings but not able to withstand high boost.. my ceramic turbine totally blew off the shaft ... pity despite ball bearing, it still spools quite late compare to the gt series. just my thoughts.