Civic fd 2.0 vs caldina zt 2.0/gt4

[ayap87]

I m considering on either of this model since family getting bigger soon. Which is more practical, cost effective, ease of maintenance, value to buy, performance wise, spare part availability n etc. Details of both car are as below:

Civic fd 2.0
Year 2010
Price 8x,xxx

Caldina zt or gt4
Year 2004/register 2009
Price 7x,xxx

I m open for any advise n suggestion from bros here,
Cheers

 

[Izso]

You can get a Caldina GT4 for so cheap?

Personally I think both cars are kinda small. Caldina is a disappointment actually. Looks big but it's almost a pure 4-seater with some boot space. And don't buy the ZT, stick GT4. Turboooooo

 

[ixeo]

Civic FD is a safe choice. Pedestrian choice. While it forms the base for the FD2R, it is not a Type R.
Caldina GT4 is the road less traveled.

Practical? Caldina would have a bigger "boot" since it is a wagon type. Cost effective? Caldina, if it is as cheap as you say, sure its cost effective. Ease of maintenance.. one is a Honda one is a Toyota, I call it equal, the Honda is probably easier to maintain since it is officially sold in Malaysia. Caldina being a Toyota, would have parts available as well. Value to buy..if you measure by Ringgit per Horsepower, surely Caldina wins. Performance, no brainer, Caldina GT4.

 

[ayap87]

Thanks bros..seriously i m in dilemma right now. GT4 offers u performance while civic fd will not give headache in searching for spare parts n promising maintenance.

In term of pricing both are equally about the same. I m actually more to caldina due to its looks n spacious boot + horsepower (not so important since it is a family car, no point of driving fast but might need it sometimes). However due to its limited availability of spare part, makes me rethinks about buying caldina.

And yes bro ixeo, agree civic is easier to maintain. Toyota wont accept caldina at their service centre based on my friend's story.

A friend of mine offering his caldina GT4 n-spec for the price ok 70k which i consider is a good deal.

 

[RENESIS VIII]

Go for Civic FD 2.0. Since there are so many FD around the roads compared to Caldina, I'm sure that there are more spareparts available for it as well. In any case, you can still send it back to Honda service center if anything happens unlike Caldina where most of them are recond cars.

For fuel consumption, I think FD had the advantage over Caldina as FD is using a 5 speed auto compared to Caldina which uses a 4 speeder. Caldina ZT will be cheaper to maintain and has better FC over GT4 because ZT is using a NA engine with FWD layout unlike GT4 where it uses a turbocharged engine with a 4WD layout.

Performance wise, Caldina GT4 will beat FD for sure. As for ZT VS FD, I'm not too sure about it.

BTW, FD will have the better potential for modifications if you got bored with it. You can choose to put in the K20A engine from DC5 Integra Type R or EP3 Civic Type R or FD2 Civic Type R along with their 6 speed manual transmission.

Hope these can be useful. Pardon me if I made any mistakes over here.

 

[ayap87]

Go for Civic FD 2.0. Since there are so many FD around the roads compared to Caldina, I'm sure that there are more spareparts available for it as well. In any case, you can still send it back to Honda service center if anything happens unlike Caldina where most of them are recond cars.

For fuel consumption, I think FD had the advantage over Caldina as FD is using a 5 speed auto compared to Caldina which uses a 4 speeder. Caldina ZT will be cheaper to maintain and has better FC over GT4 because ZT is using a NA engine with FWD layout unlike GT4 where it uses a turbocharged engine with a 4WD layout.

Performance wise, Caldina GT4 will beat FD for sure. As for ZT VS FD, I'm not too sure about it.

BTW, FD will have the better potential for modifications if you got bored with it. You can choose to put in the K20A engine from DC5 Integra Type R or EP3 Civic Type R or FD2 Civic Type R along with their 6 speed manual transmission.

Hope these can be useful. Pardon me if I made any mistakes over here.

Agree with your points bro. Now it's 60 to 40 weighting for civic fd against caldina. Looking for more feedback and opinions from sifu2 here.

 

[ken yeang]

Go for GT4. Spend a bit more...and you wont regret it.

 

[stupidcar]

Go for GT4. But only based on keyboard warrior opinion haha.
I like it because its 3SGTE yummy 260hp.
And also its wagon type(Non mainstream), looks damn good(exterior and its low & smooth)
FD looks are so over for me. As in, I have seen it til I hate it.
FC, non turbo sure win I guess.

 

[Supra_Fanatics]

I will go for GT4 as well. You may not be able to service at Toyota but can always service at great workshops out there. Maybe you can still send to TOM's.

 

[DanzEterna]

although I would choose GT4 as well but I heard the gearbox is problematic. u cant mod the car much though as it will put more stress on the autobox.

 

[RENESIS VIII]

I m considering on either of this model since family getting bigger soon. Which is more practical, cost effective, ease of maintenance, value to buy, performance wise, spare part availability n etc. Details of both car are as below:

But TS is mentioning about practical, cost effective and ease of maintenance. Wouldn't FD be having the upper hand against GT4 in these terms? And since he mentioned family, probably FD is more suitable because GT4 is more sporty oriented. Probably not as comfortable as FD due to stiffer suspension setup to handle the power from 3S-GTE?

 

[ayap87]

Thanks for all the feedback n opinions from all bros here. Really appreciate it. Various point of view now makes it harder for me to choose. Is there many workshop out there who can service caldina especially GT4 model? I afraid that most of the workshop won't accept it due to its rarity and limited spare part. I would rather keep the GT4 in the standard condition for better reliability. One more thing, is it true that this GT4 can only run on RON97?


Ok now back to 50-50 score for caldina against civic fd


Awaiting for more advise and opinion from sifu here...

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Some details of my friend's caldina GT4,
Standard engine with installed blow off
Tein suspension
Unichip destek management
18" advan rg rims
Carbon fiber parts
1xx,xxx kms milleage


As for civic FD,
Everything standard with quite low mileage
Mugen kits all round

 

[RENESIS VIII]

Thanks for all the feedback n opinions from all bros here. Really appreciate it. Various point of view now makes it harder for me to choose. Is there many workshop out there who can service caldina especially GT4 model? I afraid that most of the workshop won't accept it due to its rarity and limited spare part. I would rather keep the GT4 in the standard condition for better reliability. One more thing, is it true that this GT4 can only run on RON97?


Ok now back to 50-50 score for caldina against civic fd


Awaiting for more advise and opinion from sifu here...

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Some details of my friend's caldina GT4,
Standard engine with installed blow off
Tein suspension
Unichip destek management
18" advan rg rims
Carbon fiber parts
1xx,xxx kms milleage


As for civic FD,
Everything standard with quite low mileage
Mugen kits all round

Compression ratio for 3S-GTE is not really that high. Should be able to accept RON95 isn't it?

Tein suspension and 18 inch rims for Caldina... That could possibly affect ride comfort. But if you're focused on handling and performance, then it's okay.

 

[vr2turbo]

Go for Civic FD 2.0. Since there are so many FD around the roads compared to Caldina, I'm sure that there are more spareparts available for it as well. In any case, you can still send it back to Honda service center if anything happens unlike Caldina where most of them are recond cars.

Well, it is either ease and piratical over rare. I have VR, Sonata III and a Chery, all you rarely see in the market.....hahahaha

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But TS is mentioning about practical, cost effective and ease of maintenance.

Yup, if based on practical FD2 is the choice.....

 

[Izso]

Some details of my friend's caldina GT4,
Standard engine with installed blow off
Tein suspension
Unichip destek management
18" advan rg rims
Carbon fiber parts
1xx,xxx kms milleage


As for civic FD,
Everything standard with quite low mileage
Mugen kits all round

Given the choice between the two and since you're a family man meaning money will be spent on diapers, milk powder, clothes and all, I'd go for the easier to maintain and probably cheaper to maintain Civic. The more modified a car is (power) the more care it'll need. If the Civics mileage is true mileage (it can be tweaked very easily apparently), then that's probably the car you wanna go for.

 

[ayap87]

I've got little experience in dealing with modified and rare car (not so rare i guess). Currently i owned satria gti with mivec stuff inside. I can say nowadays mivec engine part is getting harder to get, but so far I still managed to maintained it. Maybe because lots of aftermarket parts and it's proton btw. LOL..

Caldina might be different i guess. Unless I go for zzt 1.8 model where it has the same engine as wish and altis. Correct me if I'm wrong. I heard for this zzt model, fuel consumption is good and easy to maintain. But i'll loss the performance. I've been sitting in GT4 before, n I would say the comfortability is not bad.

 

[Izso]

It sounds like you've already made your decision.

Ok case closed!

 

[4gbanger]

i would vote for GT4 since my older bro use to drive it.. keep it stock if u want better FC as they have better FC than stock airtrek turbo. they handle almost like a sedan. nowdays many workshop do maintain and repair caldina and even have caldina specialist around malaysia. parts still available as halfcuts still new but not that hard to find.

FD is a non performance sedan. its build for family with low FC and emission. better FC than caldina GT4 but i guess ZT also can get good FC.

 

[Supra_Fanatics]

But TS is mentioning about practical, cost effective and ease of maintenance. Wouldn't FD be having the upper hand against GT4 in these terms? And since he mentioned family, probably FD is more suitable because GT4 is more sporty oriented. Probably not as comfortable as FD due to stiffer suspension setup to handle the power from 3S-GTE?

Must mention in full, when u mention FD, I keep thinking of RX-7

Easier to maintain would be the Civic FD and ZT Caldina. But if GT4 so harder to maintain and is family car. I think the Civic 2.0L has sufficient power around 155bhp if not wrong.

 

[khoyos]

i have never driven/sat inside any civic FD so i wouldn't know. however i do have a caldina ZT which i bought for my wife. sometime i use the car too especially during outstation trips. main purpose is to have a family car that looks good. FD looks good too but i think the ZT looks a little bit better due to the sexy body line. of course GT4 was the desired model but i already have 3 turbocharged cars in the garage so i think it's time to get sensible hehehe. quite happy with the performance, not that powerful but enough for 160-180kmh comfortable cruising on highways using ron95. sits 5 adults comfortably, with generous rear legroom (more legroom than my mom's W203). fuel consumption is good, low maintenance costs (but spark plug expensive), and big boot space for family outings. but u have to remember ur options, a 2010 car vs a 2004 car. the 2004 car will definitely cost a little bit more initially as it is a little bit older. when i got the ZT, it was not in good condition (cheapest car in mudah at the time) so i spent around rm3-4k to change all the wear n tear parts n the car has reliably served our family since. only thing now is the kong absorbers which will be replaced soon. other than that, i'm happy with the ZT. never regretted not taking the GT4 but my wife complained that why am i the only one with turbo n leave her with an NA machine hahahaha