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[kurt_629]

Wah! You already purchased the tyres one year ago?

Take suspension and wheels out send for service and repair, use other car first.....hhahhahaha

Not me lah, my friend aka the seller.

I already given up hope on the suspension part..
It's not that serious..

Wanna ask, I notice my engine will stall when approaching to stop at traffic light.
Once the engine stall, I can't control the car nor can step brake.
Was told it was a norm for evo engine, I have to keep revving the engine to keep it alive.
Already told my mechanic to increase the idling speed, hopefully can prevent the stalling.

 

[Izso]

bro, engine stall different thread. Unless u want me to rename this thread title?

 

[vr2turbo]

bro, engine stall different thread. Unless u want me to rename this thread title?

Rename, problems with my perdana.....lol

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Not me lah, my friend aka the seller.

I already given up hope on the suspension part..
It's not that serious..

Wanna ask, I notice my engine will stall when approaching to stop at traffic light.
Once the engine stall, I can't control the car nor can step brake.
Was told it was a norm for evo engine, I have to keep revving the engine to keep it alive.
Already told my mechanic to increase the idling speed, hopefully can prevent the stalling.

Anyway, short answer. Engine stall, no more power steering and no more vacuum assist for the brakes, that is why steering heavy so hard to control, and no more vacuum assist means brake got to step harder....

 

[^pomen_GTR^]

engine stall...service your throttle body and check for intercooler piping/vaccum hose leak....or probably BOV leak

 

[kurt_629]

bro, engine stall different thread. Unless u want me to rename this thread title?

Haha, better don't. Start too many threads, people like vr2turbo will think it's me, not the car. Thanks for the offer.

Rename, problems with my perdana.....lol

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Anyway, short answer. Engine stall, no more power steering and no more vacuum assist for the brakes, that is why steering heavy so hard to control, and no more vacuum assist means brake got to step harder....

Sure or not, stall still can step brake?
I'm on braided hose, jam brake also no use. . Had to use hand brake..

People pull hand brake to drill while I use handbrake to stop

engine stall...service your throttle body and check for intercooler piping/vaccum hose leak....or probably BOV leak

Yeah. Just send my car for full body check up.

Found a few leaks, drive shaft broken again. .
The mechanic, who is a friend of mine. Shared that he had replaced something that will remove the stalling part.

Actually I have this problem for a year since I got the car, it will stall when low idle especially approaching traffic light.

It's probably me, I'm not used to turbo car.. hopefully with the visit to the doctor. Car should be ok by then.

Probably will drive from johor to ipoh then alor star.
Thinking of crossing the border, show off to the thai.

 

[vr2turbo]

Sure or not, stall still can step brake?
I'm on braided hose, jam brake also no use. . Had to use hand brake..

People pull hand brake to drill while I use handbrake to stop

As mentioned once stalled no more vacuum assist for the brakes, so need to step much harder to brake

 

[^pomen_GTR^]

btw if stalled still can press the brake...but need to push the brake paddle harder... (wasnt that hard for me actually thanks to experience in driving ol-school car with no brake booster and no power steering)

 

[kurt_629]

I see, thanks guys. You been really helpful.

 

[YYC]

How is your suspension setup now?
Just sharing my still painful experience. I was on TEIN HR, rear passengers were pooping at the back seat because the suspension was so hard that they would hit the roof when road condition is bad. So I got a set of Mitsu KYB with lowered spring from halfcut, it was super soft and always bottomed up, I guess I'd damage it in no time like that. After much back and forth ding dong with 2 different suspensions now i am running a weird setup: TEIN HR front and soft KYB rear. The surprise i got, it is out of my expectation because it handles so well but without the bumpiness, and the tendency of understeer has disappeared all together. The soft rear suspension really makes a difference here to overall ride comfort. No more constant complaint from the rear passengers and very nice handling on the highway run. A stop gap measure. As I was looking or rather pondering to replace my ride, i think this setup does the job just well for now. Anyway, I like the TEIN more if not because of my passengers.

 

[vr2turbo]

I thought suspension cannot differ by more then 25% between them. If yours are super hard front and super soft rears the difference must be a lot.....

 

[6UE5t]

How is your suspension setup now?
Just sharing my still painful experience. I was on TEIN HR, rear passengers were pooping at the back seat because the suspension was so hard that they would hit the roof when road condition is bad. So I got a set of Mitsu KYB with lowered spring from halfcut, it was super soft and always bottomed up, I guess I'd damage it in no time like that. After much back and forth ding dong with 2 different suspensions now i am running a weird setup: TEIN HR front and soft KYB rear. The surprise i got, it is out of my expectation because it handles so well but without the bumpiness, and the tendency of understeer has disappeared all together. The soft rear suspension really makes a difference here to overall ride comfort. No more constant complaint from the rear passengers and very nice handling on the highway run. A stop gap measure. As I was looking or rather pondering to replace my ride, i think this setup does the job just well for now. Anyway, I like the TEIN more if not because of my passengers.

I thought suspension cannot differ by more then 25% between them. If yours are super hard front and super soft rears the difference must be a lot.....

Such setup usually should cause heavy understeer. Strange that you mentioned the opposite. :hmmmm:

 

[vr2turbo]

Such setup usually should cause heavy understeer. Strange that you mentioned the opposite. :hmmmm:

I think on the less understeer part, he is correct, as weaker rears will oversteer

 

[kurt_629]

just to update, I have found the perfect combination.. finally..

currently, I'm still on DD suspension, came with when I bought the car.
from 12k & 8K
to 8k 6K
and finally, 8k 4k

so far, its giving me the comfort and the handling that I want.
tyre is 225 45 17, not bad, pretty sexy.
1 finger front, 2 finger rear.

a reference to those who wanted the best of the 2 world, of course, this is my preference, may not be suitable for everyone.

 

[6UE5t]

just to update, I have found the perfect combination.. finally..

currently, I'm still on DD suspension, came with when I bought the car.
from 12k & 8K
to 8k 6K
and finally, 8k 4k

so far, its giving me the comfort and the handling that I want.
tyre is 225 45 17, not bad, pretty sexy.
1 finger front, 2 finger rear.

a reference to those who wanted the best of the 2 world, of course, this is my preference, may not be suitable for everyone.

Good then. Those are coupled with std anti-roll bars or some aftermarket ones?

 

[kurt_629]

Good then. Those are coupled with std anti-roll bars or some aftermarket ones?

oh, aftermarket. currently using eibach anti roll bar, think was 21mm for front and 19mm for rear.

does it make a difference?
seriously, I don't feel anything.. I felt this is one of the worst upgrade I ever paid for..

along with the stiff ring..

 

[vr2turbo]

Thicker ARB should be more stiff too, less roll......

 

[6UE5t]

oh, aftermarket. currently using eibach anti roll bar, think was 21mm for front and 19mm for rear.

does it make a difference?
seriously, I don't feel anything.. I felt this is one of the worst upgrade I ever paid for..

along with the stiff ring..

What were the original anti-roll bar thickness? Thicker anti-roll bars would help during cornering as it minimize the body roll (hence the name) making the car corner more flat but not during the straight.

 

[^pomen_GTR^]

oh, aftermarket. currently using eibach anti roll bar, think was 21mm for front and 19mm for rear.

does it make a difference?
seriously, I don't feel anything.. I felt this is one of the worst upgrade I ever paid for..

along with the stiff ring..

me running 22mm front and 23mm rear....hahahahaha...still i crave for more.....but for current driving pattern (more daily drive than out having fun, family comfort still ok)


probably u didnt drive your car very hard in corners to notice what was the differences between stock arb and bigger arb

 

[vr2turbo]

He could have tested in the straights, hence no difference......hhahhahhaa

 

[6UE5t]

me running 22mm front and 23mm rear....hahahahaha...still i crave for more.....but for current driving pattern (more daily drive than out having fun, family comfort still ok)


probably u didnt drive your car very hard in corners to notice what was the differences between stock arb and bigger arb

On which car is that? The handling must become quite pointy with so thick one at the rear/even thicker than the front, is it? Rally driver preference for oversteer I suppose.

Yeah think so too, if you corner normal2 only then you won't feel the difference coz not enough g-force to make the car roll more and you also won't feel the difference in handling whether it becomes more neutral, more understeer, or more oversteer compared to the previous stock setup.

 

[kurt_629]

What were the original anti-roll bar thickness? Thicker anti-roll bars would help during cornering as it minimize the body roll (hence the name) making the car corner more flat but not during the straight.

think for stock perdana, was only 19mm and 17mm?
not sure..

yeah, I don't hard corner when drive perdana..
for savvy, I would as its very road holding..

perdana always give me the floating experience