Goodyear Wrangle Triplemax for Forester

[vr2turbo]

If so, then which company is in charge of Dunlop's new tyre design and things like R&D?

Looks like M/T is made for serious offroading. How does M/T tyres fare in normal roads like during wet conditions? Do they grip well?

Are these plies those silver coloured thread-like things that can be found beneath the rubber? I've seen those silver coloured things in worn out tyres or torn tyres.

Not sure, probably the new owners themselves.

That is why tyres have category. M/T are block patterned to dig into mud, so on tarmac have less contact surface. Rubber compound also harder.

The sidewall ply will go from left to right, from bead area to the other side. The silver thing you see on thread area is the steel belt. Steel belt usually 2 plies and these are to hold the thread pattern flat so max contact on road surface. There will be another ply layer covering the steel belt, This is to hold them in between the carcass ply. If steel belt alone it does not stick well to rubber and might separate out

The light brown are carcass belt from left to right, and these are the sidewall plies
Blue and silver are the steel belts
The dark brown are the cover belt or plies

With visuals you should understand better....

 

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Not sure, probably the new owners themselves.

That is why tyres have category. M/T are block patterned to dig into mud, so on tarmac have less contact surface. Rubber compound also harder.

The sidewall ply will go from left to right, from bead area to the other side. The silver thing you see on thread area is the steel belt. Steel belt usually 2 plies and these are to hold the thread pattern flat so max contact on road surface. There will be another ply layer covering the steel belt, This is to hold them in between the carcass ply. If steel belt alone it does not stick well to rubber and might separate out

The light brown are carcass belt from left to right, and these are the sidewall plies
Blue and silver are the steel belts
The dark brown are the cover belt or plies

With visuals you should understand better....

Therefore, it is not a good idea to corner fast in M/T tyres I think.

Thank you for the explanation. From the pic, sidewall plies are the innermost layer isn't it? That is why you called it the carcass because it is like the skeleton of the tyre? The overall frame of the tyre itself.

 

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Therefore, it is not a good idea to corner fast in M/T tyres I thinj.

Thank you for the explanation. From the pic, sidewall plies are the innermost layer isn't it? That is why you called it the carcass because it is like the skeleton of the tyre? The overall frame of the tyre itself.

Who ask you use M/T tyres race on tarmac.....hahhahhahah

Yup, carcass is the base, as the picture also mention body plies, these holds the whole tyre in place

 

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Who ask you use M/T tyres race on tarmac.....hahhahhahah

Yup, carcass is the base, as the picture also mention body plies, these holds the whole tyre in place

Well, sometimes I saw those heavily modified pickup trucks or old offroad cars like Pajero, Land Cruiser with very large rugged tyres and raised up suspension. I thought, will it be good to drive these cars? And I also wondered can they really be stable in high speed travelling.

But the plies are not visible outside isn't it? Even when I see the inner part of the tyres on those that is not mounted to rims?

 

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Well, sometimes I saw those heavily modified pickup trucks or old offroad cars like Pajero, Land Cruiser with very large rugged tyres and raised up suspension. I thought, will it be good to drive these cars? And I also wondered can they really be stable in high speed travelling.

But the plies are not visible outside isn't it? Even when I see the inner part of the tyres on those that is not mounted to rims?

The plies is covered by rubber. If can see the plies need to discard already.....

 

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The plies is covered by rubber. If can see the plies need to discard already.....

As for air, where will the air inside the tyres be kept? From the diagram, doesn't look like there is much space between plies and the rubber compound.

 

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As for air, where will the air inside the tyres be kept? From the diagram, doesn't look like there is much space between plies and the rubber compound.

Huh? the air inside loh! Where the word "HALOBUTYL LINER" is. That is the internal chamber. The beads are where the rims will hold the tyres...

 

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Huh? the air inside loh! Where the word "HALOBUTYL LINER" is. That is the internal chamber. The beads are where the rims will hold the tyres...

I see. A very thin and narrow area. Now I learned more about tyre structure. More just a piece of rubber with steel belt filled with air.

 

[vr2turbo]

I see. A very thin and narrow area. Now I learned more about tyre structure. More just a piece of rubber with steel belt filled with air.

Aiyoh! the whole chamber leh......

 

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Went outstation with the Forester for CNY.
On the highway, I was surprised that these tyres were not that noisy, even though rugged looking and with block pattern, to me it was quieter than my previous Conti MC5. As was going outstation I pump back air pressure to normal since will be running high speed on highway. As mentioned before the ride is more bumpy than the Conti since the Goodyear sidewall are 2 plies and harder, but the body roll is much less and car is more stable. Running 110kph was nice and smooth. In town, since road condition was not that good the ride was more bumpy.
On our return trip yesterday, highway was completely jammed up, so use coastal route from Changkat Jering to Teluk Intan. Coastal route was clear, some part was straight and many parts winding which was good to test the Goodyears. Corners pretty well, and now with harden sidewall it performs much better than the Conti. Some parts had heavy showers and again the Goodyear performed well.
So far very satisfied with the Wrangler Tiplemax. Will test further and see how it fares as it wears....

 

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Did another 2 outstation runs, one last weekend and another this weekend. Tyres doing well. Part highway and part federal roads when highway was seen to be jammed up looking at waze.....lol
Love the federal routes more, able to have corners and having these wrangler with stiffer sidewall was better. Even on highway have less body rolls, but then again pothole road are bumpier.....

 

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Did another 2 outstation runs, one last weekend and another this weekend. Tyres doing well. Part highway and part federal roads when highway was seen to be jammed up looking at waze.....lol
Love the federal routes more, able to have corners and having these wrangler with stiffer sidewall was better. Even on highway have less body rolls, but then again pothole road are bumpier.....

Ah this is what I want to hear, great! I think I might be getting either these or the Geolander. I'm not sure what is the treadwear rating for my toyo but for the past 20k KM, my car ate up quite a lot of my rubber lol. FWD + Turbo diesel isn't the very tyre friendly eh? Heavy right foot + occasional spirited driving could be the culprit.
My car has been experiencing wheel spins and minor hydroplaning lately too, I guess it's due for a change.

Thanks for the comprehensive review btw, always love your posts!

 

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Ah this is what I want to hear, great! I think I might be getting either these or the Geolander. I'm not sure what is the treadwear rating for my toyo but for the past 20k KM, my car ate up quite a lot of my rubber lol. FWD + Turbo diesel isn't the very tyre friendly eh? Heavy right foot + occasional spirited driving could be the culprit.
My car has been experiencing wheel spins and minor hydroplaning lately too, I guess it's due for a change.

Thanks for the comprehensive review btw, always love your posts!

The Geolandar made for durability, threadwear 600 but traction B only. Wrangler Triplemax Threadwear 440, but Traction A. My daughter drives the Chery with the Geolandar now, and she quite likes them. Really durable, almost 20k km slightly worn only. When got time will take some pictures.
The Forester with the Wrangler is driven by my wife. Even though slightly bumpier than the Conti, she prefers the more firm ride rather than softer with body roll....

 

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The Geolandar made for durability, threadwear 600 but traction B only. Wrangler Triplemax Threadwear 440, but Traction A. My daughter drives the Chery with the Geolandar now, and she quite likes them. Really durable, almost 20k km slightly worn only. When got time will take some pictures.
The Forester with the Wrangler is driven by my wife. Even though slightly bumpier than the Conti, she prefers the more firm ride rather than softer with body roll....

Body roll is kinda inevitable in an SUV so i guess it's a plus to have the triplemax. I haven't got the chance to check out these tyres yet but I'm leaning more towards the triplemax due to the rugged groove and it's superior wet/dry handling.
Anyways, do you know any place around KL where I can do light off road? Gravel/mud nothing close to rock crawling :rolleyes:

 

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Body roll is kinda inevitable in an SUV so i guess it's a plus to have the triplemax. I haven't got the chance to check out these tyres yet but I'm leaning more towards the triplemax due to the rugged groove and it's superior wet/dry handling.
Anyways, do you know any place around KL where I can do light off road? Gravel/mud nothing close to rock crawling :rolleyes:

The original tyres for the forester were Continental Passenger tyres MC5, that is why they are more comfy but plenty body roll. The triplemax more bumpy but less body roll, so pros and cons. Like you mention I also prefer less body roll, so I prefer the Triplemax over the MC5....

 

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Finally done 10k km
Front tyre shows sign of shoulder wear


Rear tyres still okay


Time for tyre rotation