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Dudes ,
i'm new here and i need some advice..

(1)putra and gti are using 1.8 engines,but are they the same
specs? or gti more powerful?.

(2)in terms of performance(stock egine) which is the best?
their bhp? max speed? power-weight ratio?

(3)im planning to buy a second-hand either gti or putra..
a year 2000 gti price range around 45000-49000 while a
1999/2000 putra would only set me around 40000-45000..
which is more worthy?

hope to hear soon..
tq~
 

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if u not planning to modify use it as stock i think beter guess gti in coz beter handling... but putra faster coz power to weight ratio....
 

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Engine is the same i think its 4G93P right?... correct me if i'm wrong... the difference is that the later gti's uses a different ECU
 

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get a GTi 99 or early 00 models with mitsu ecu, then u can join the most happening car community the SGTi Club Malaysia....

handlingwise its better compared to putra if u wanna stick to standard

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definately a putra...
body damn chun...handling also good..
if wanna get gti then muz get those b4 year 2000..else its using siemen cu..'bluek'
 

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personally speaking, GTi would be the one to choose.

its lighter than putra a;though the power output is rated similar and the difference in weight maybe less than 100kg. so power-to-weight ratio goes to GTi.

GTi is using standard 16" wheels which gives superb handling and firm ride but it may lose slightly upon launch if compare to Putra with standard 14"wheels.

GTi's suspension system had been tuned by Lotus, and its job a well done. Though Lotus weren't allowed to tune the powertrain (due to cost factor) they had done something to make the GTI more quiet inside.

Putra is good, but to find a decent used example is hard due to most had been thrashed by their previous owner.

Either car is nice to drive, but both SGTi and Putra is ageing...and might as well to wait for new SRM...dunno when will be launched. but i think worth to wait.

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it all depends on u want 2 mod or u use it stock.. if stock get gti with the mitsu ecu.. siemens ecu useless wan..
 

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hey bro,
i was facing the same problem as u're facing now. but until the end, i chosed a GTi, for me, GTI is newer and comes with designed bodykits while for Putra, u might need to spend somemore money for the kits & paint job, or even modification on de car handling & suspension.

i got my 2001 GTI on this March for 47k, n so, i think u can get 1 yr2000 for around 45k.

i went to Dreamcars tat day & chat with those R3 ppl, & 1 of the malay guy told me tat GTI with siemens ECU started only by late 2001, & he mentioned to me tat looking at ur filter intake arm area, if there's a "block thing" (which im not sure wat is tat yet) over there, its MMC. If without the thing, then is siemens. But im not so sure yet, need to confirm again with other GTI owners.

all GTI sifus, please correct me if im wrong. Thx!
 

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The "block" thing is actually your MAF sensor. Take out your airbox and you'll see a honeycomb metal there.

Another way to tell is to look at the throttle body (where your accelerator cable is connected to). Siemens has this big black piece of plastic which looks like a currypuff (hence the karipap term) while MMC has 3 pins on top to distinguish. If i'm not mistaken Siemens also has an additional sensor/plug on top of the intake manifold.

The final way to tell is to drive both cars. You'll know which one is MMC the moment you hit the accelerator ;)
 

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zan said:
personally speaking, GTi would be the one to choose.

its lighter than putra a;though the power output is rated similar and the difference in weight maybe less than 100kg. so power-to-weight ratio goes to GTi.

GTi is using standard 16" wheels which gives superb handling and firm ride but it may lose slightly upon launch if compare to Putra with standard 14"wheels.

GTi's suspension system had been tuned by Lotus, and its job a well done. Though Lotus weren't allowed to tune the powertrain (due to cost factor) they had done something to make the GTI more quiet inside.

Putra is good, but to find a decent used example is hard due to most had been thrashed by their previous owner.

Either car is nice to drive, but both SGTi and Putra is ageing...and might as well to wait for new SRM...dunno when will be launched. but i think worth to wait.

cheers.
Errr..Putra IS lighter than SGTi.

In fact, if I'm not mistaken, SGTi is the heaviest of the big 3 (Putra, Wira 1.8LE, SGTi) - thanks to the improved ride quality (reduced NVH).

A Putra for me, why?

Coz there are tonnes of SGTi wannabes out there (1.3/1.5 in SGTi bodykits).

Just my 0.00002 cents.
 

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emo said:
Dudes ,
i'm new here and i need some advice..

(1)putra and gti are using 1.8 engines,but are they the same
specs? or gti more powerful?.

(2)in terms of performance(stock egine) which is the best?
their bhp? max speed? power-weight ratio?

(3)im planning to buy a second-hand either gti or putra..
a year 2000 gti price range around 45000-49000 while a
1999/2000 putra would only set me around 40000-45000..
which is more worthy?

hope to hear soon..
tq~
hi..

1. basically... both use the same engine 4g93p... later version diff. on ecu

2. perfomance... almost same, maybe hav just alittle difference.. can ignore

3. which one more worthy? depend on ur 'minat' dude!!
after dis, u gonna drive dat... if u r referring to the market price... then go for GTi.. cos GTi quiet new and putra almost a decade now... if u wan to taste the 'exclusive'.... go for putra...

putra = putra <-- no way u can convert anything to jadi putra
Satria GTi = either orignal GTi @ satria wif bodikit...

mine...
i hav putra yr 97...
come n join the princely alliance !!!
 

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There are still some "new" Putras being sold. Don't know if there's still stock but you can visit the Selayang PE to enquire. Still on MMC system, AFAIK. Only thing missing is the MOMO wheel.
 

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prozac said:
There are still some "new" Putras being sold. Don't know if there's still stock but you can visit the Selayang PE to enquire. Still on MMC system, AFAIK. Only thing missing is the MOMO wheel.
hi..

found that kind of ad. in motortrader... don remember when...
i don think its the new one... mayb they wan to clear old stock... summore i heard of new interior lining n trimming... is it? anybody can update this?

MOMO is missing???
then they replace wif what?

how about the other spec..? still 14" rim?
 

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emo said:
Dudes ,
i'm new here and i need some advice..

(1)putra and gti are using 1.8 engines,but are they the same
specs? or gti more powerful?.

(2)in terms of performance(stock egine) which is the best?
their bhp? max speed? power-weight ratio?

(3)im planning to buy a second-hand either gti or putra..
a year 2000 gti price range around 45000-49000 while a
1999/2000 putra would only set me around 40000-45000..
which is more worthy?

hope to hear soon..
tq~
u can click on the search button on top of the screen.. i think last time some one ask before this question aready.. they have alot of coment's there...
 

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ben_gsr2s said:
hi..

found that kind of ad. in motortrader... don remember when...
i don think its the new one... mayb they wan to clear old stock... summore i heard of new interior lining n trimming... is it? anybody can update this?

MOMO is missing???
then they replace wif what?

how about the other spec..? still 14" rim?
MOMO replaced with ugly wira steering. 14" alloy rim. Yup, definately old stock.

But anyway, a Putra is a car you buy to mod, esp bodykits, rims, decals, ICE, spoilers etc. Power-wise, the venerable MMC 1.8 DOHC is good enough. Be proud since most people overseas are stuck with 1.5 SOHC Mirage Asti's.
 

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engine ecu

hmm...

another thing, is putra same like the gti? which is said to be using siemens ecu on production of after 2000?

i hearing rumours and replies dat those engines using the siemens ecu dun perform well..is it true? does it makes a big different in the engine and its performance?

and personally speaking i'm really in for a putra.. :P
but still considering it..eheh...

any advice and tips on how to find a nice & almost perfect putra? what should i take notice when inspecting & testing the car?

i,ve found 1 and had called the owner to see the car personally.. a grey(original paint)putra year 2000..price was set at rm45500..mileage 100100..15'' rims..normal bodykit..& blaupunkt sound system..(cdplayer headunit not included)

does the price worth it? im aware of that a year 1999/2000 GTI is almost the same price range..
 

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emo said:
hmm...

another thing, is putra same like the gti? which is said to be using siemens ecu on production of after 2000?

i hearing rumours and replies dat those engines using the siemens ecu dun perform well..is it true? does it makes a big different in the engine and its performance?

and personally speaking i'm really in for a putra.. :P
but still considering it..eheh...

any advice and tips on how to find a nice & almost perfect putra? what should i take notice when inspecting & testing the car?

i,ve found 1 and had called the owner to see the car personally.. a grey(original paint)putra year 2000..price was set at rm45500..mileage 100100..15'' rims..normal bodykit..& blaupunkt sound system..(cdplayer headunit not included)

does the price worth it? im aware of that a year 1999/2000 GTI is almost the same price range..
u can also post this in prince alliance forum. they have alot of poeple with ideas there..
 

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putra is lighter than GTi ler
just because GTi looks smaller doesn't mean it's lighter :D
sori, my bad for quoting wrongly... yeah SGTI is heavier..must be becoz of the bodywork garnish and extrta sound deadening material.

hence the reason R3 being produced albeit in limited numbers...

thanx for correcting me.. :D