Touge time: Toyota 86 first drive up genting highlands - with on board video

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Exactly how much Toyota's new 86 love the hill roads (touge)? The only way to find out?, in this case the FR-base 86, is to put it through its paces. A midnight run to be precise, wee-hours in the morning to be spiritually connected to the cult that made the original 86. But we're not delivering tofu this time, I'd prefer to keep the 86 in grip mode with VSC Sport on.

Hill Climb: Toyota 86 on Genting Highlands - First Drive - YouTube

Although circuit driving allows one to squeeze the absolute limits of a car, we just can't wait to put the car through real-world scenarios, where mere-mortals do 99% of their driving. So where else better than our favorite touge route, also a favourite for many. Genting Highlands offers a good combination of great high-speed curves and a good blend of tight and twisty corners. A hill being a hill, it's got various degrees of inclination where one can sample a car’s torque, power and balance and a good return downhill descend where the chassis more or less over rule engine performance.



To start it off, the drive to the foothills to Genting Highlands involve continuous, windy high-speed highway, now recently made better with overhead LED lamp posts, significantly increasing the joy of night driving towards the Genting start point. The journey starts with the 86’s transit through the Karak highway, where it manages to showcase overall driving prowess, pretty much covering the entire journey much like a bigger GT car where it stays completely planted and composed when negotiating Karak's high speed bends, made even more apparent when approaching the off-camber sections.



There is also a sense of constant physical communication with the 86. Like a Lego-figure sitting on 4-studs of a Lego block, in this case me on the snug sports seat, where i am seemingly welded to the chassis, taking in all the glorious feedback. A sensation only available in the Hall of Fame of driver's cars. It's just one hell of an inspiring drive when you feel like you're one with the car and on a transit highway like the Karak, It very quickly warms up both the car and driver -before the actual touge.



Being in this part of the world, we encounter roads that are less than perfect, where the highways are smothered with various types of blemishes. Even so, the 86’s well-tuned suspension cleverly soak all imperfections, dips and bumps. Efficiently filtering out unnecessary distractions. Absolutely no jarring, spine-crushing drama in here.



The HID projector headlights throw a far yet wide and consistent beam, substantially increasing the eyes’ visual reach. LED positioning strips integrated in the headlights garnishes the front, plus It helps with indicating to the unassuming fast-lane road hoggers that something special is approaching from the rear.

Upon arriving to the foothills of Genting Highlands, one starts to anticipate how satisfying the 86 could be, having sampled the preview of what it is like on regular roads and the corners of Karak at speed. As we head uphill, you are immediately greeted with a change of scenario, where the roads are now narrower, steeper and dark. It is an immediate signal of caution to most, or to driving enthusiasts, an invitation to the wild side.



Just like your first Kobe beef steak, you'd want to take in a good bite size to chew, then melt it all over your taste buds before finally allowing the heavenly remains to travel down your throat. Similarly, this is not Man VS Food and I'm not here to set a lap record. What i need is a slow release dose of what the 86 feel like.



Let’s talk about the Toyota 86′s trick auto transmission, Yes, an Automatic. But why? Well the great guys at UMW Toyota Malaysia wanted the best for us, so the top-of-the-range 86 was commissioned for the review(s). Plus, it'll make for a more relevant test since most people prefer to live with automatics since the 90's anyway. This baby costs RM6000 on top of the Manual 86, and now that we so love the paddle shifting auto, I can only imagine how much more satisfying the Manual could be, so, If I ever had any qualms about the 86, they'd all be gone with a stick shift. I promise.



Back to the 86's Automatic, No, it is not like the one in your neighbour’s SUV. This auto almost behaves like a dual-clutch sequential shifting box without the dual-clutch. Firstly, in full-manual mode, the 86 is as responsive as any manual car with the gear engaged. There is no rubber band torque slippage, there is no shifting lag, just swift and silky transitioning through the gears and not a hint of jerk gear after gear. Every flick of the paddle shifters send a direct microsecond command to the transmission with no lag whatsoever. Up or Down.



As we approach a corner, braking as late as possible followed by a flick or 2 of the left paddle and you are immediately greeted with perfectly rev-matched, heel-and-toe-esque downshift(s). And as you attack the impending hairpin, you begin to appreciate how neutral the car is, coupled with how easy to judge the 86’s physique, highlighted by the bulges at the front either side just above the wheels, like a pair of cross-hairs.



Just before exiting any corner, it tempts you to floor it out, it just telepathically tells you to, especially with the VSC Sport turned on, the steering is crisp and the power delivery is amplified. But should an adventurous inexperienced driver vigorously mess with the throttle in a corner and when the tail tries to step out, which in the 86 with the TC on, it does. This same, smart Traction Control also immediately kicks in, resisting the car from initiating an involuntarily slide; perfect for a novice.



While the 200 conservative ponies can hardly get anyone into serious trouble, it allows good drivers to access all of it anywhere. Rather than to scare yourself in a wild monster, while not knowing exactly how well or fast you are doing, the 86 encourages one to preserve generated momentum with its unique handling capabilities. In a way, the 86 is highly efficient in not wasting crucial inertia. Yes it may not smoke its tires or break one's neck sprinting up the hills, but anyone could appreciate the creamy smooth power delivery as the flat-4 sings its way to 7000rpm. It is also beneficial to keep the revs right up there at all times where the engine is most alive.



Although the flat-4 mostly enjoy singing high up the revs, there is also a hint of sportiness down below in the rev band. Toyota has somehow tuned the air induction of the 86 to emit a throaty howl as the engine moves up the revs right before it changes to a high-pitched scream. That throaty howl is also very apparent when downshifting as the cold air intake air box vigorously gulps for air.

Please take your time to enjoy that 8-minute on-board video we prepared. If you've never done any on-board videos, do keep in mind that it always look slower than what it actually is in reality.



All in all, anyone can be and/or learn to be pretty fast up or down the hills upon driving the 86 for the first couple of minutes. And again, as we have made it very clear, anyone can exploit the 200 relaxed horses coupled with a beautiful chassis in a silky smooth gearbox without being Keiichi Tsuchiya or someone closer to home, Tengku Djan.

Touge Pros:

  • brilliant, surreal handling abilities
  • Perfect, almost bespoke suspension
  • Not intimidating, in fact highly confidence inspiring

Touge Cons:

  • Auto gear ratios could be improved for better use of rev range
  • Conservative mid range power
  • Auto 'box doesn't allow downshifting anywhere beyond 4500rpm

Toyota 86 Specifications and Prices

  • Zerotohundred: 8.2s (AT), 7.6s (MT)
  • Top Speed: 225 km / h
  • Engine: 1998 cc D-4S flat-four boxer engine (FA20)
  • Power: 197 bhp / 7000 rpm
  • Redline: 7400 rpm
  • Torque 205 nm / 6600 rpm
  • Weight: 1,230 kg
  • Fuel: 5.91L/100km Automatic / 6.5L/100km Manual
  • Fuel Tank: 50 L
  • Wheels: 17"
  • Tyres: 215/45R17 all round
  • Price: RM243,000 Manual / RM249,000 Auto
  • Official Link: http://www.toyota.com.my/toyota-86/



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nice driving.. getting pro!
 

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thank you all,

temujin, yeah, and we have more on the 86 in the pipeline, please stay tuned :)
 

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Auto is too.. relaxed.. and it somehow disconnects man and machine in comparison to a manual. man does not have full control over machine..and in a machine like 86 it somehow defeats the purpose (of the 86). Surely, I agree that electronically controlled gearboxes like the dual clutches is damn advanced, 8ms shifts.. versus 250ms with the best race manual box and best driver.. but I think it takes the driving out of driving. sure, using an auto, you won't mis-shift, and you can keep your hands on the steering, and focus on pedal control and less concentration in manually shifting gears. but I think its because there's a chance of mis-shifting in a manual, it taxes the driver more, that the driver has more control over things -- and thus more things the driver would screw up or fail to control.

automatics....what's the point with an 86? Bunta would have said.. can't downshift at 4.5k rpm? dafuk? Or in his native tongue, NANI? The father of the 86 said himself, its about driving feel, made with passion, and was not about lap times. automatics takes the clutch away, less driving feel yo.

but what do I know, I sail boats. :smokin:
 

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maybe for safety/reliability on dual clutch gb.
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Toyota 86 is not using a dual clutch gb. it's an improved conventional 6 spd slushbox --the A960E taken from the IS 250.
 

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8minutes uphill is very fast seyh
8 min from the bottom to the top is fast, 8 min from the mid to the top is SLOOOOW

8 min for a 200k car from the bottom to the top is SLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW, no matter how u put it. My LE can do it and it only cost me 12k. My E30 can do it less than 6 min. If you have worked there before and u drive up almost every week then u know i'm not wrong.
 

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8 min from the bottom to the top is fast, 8 min from the mid to the top is SLOOOOW

8 min for a 200k car from the bottom to the top is SLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW, no matter how u put it. My LE can do it and it only cost me 12k. My E30 can do it less than 6 min. If you have worked there before and u drive up almost every week then u know i'm not wrong.
Father of 86, Tesuya Tada says, this car is not about lap times. Its about driving FEEL. You know? That's what you paying for.
 

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Father of 86, Tesuya Tada says, this car is not about lap times. Its about driving FEEL. You know? That's what you paying for.
maybe in japan where cars are cheap, we can all accept this statement but here the cars are expensive and u r paying a premium price that under performs, it is totally unacceptable

talking about feelings, u won't get a GOOD FEEL when u r overtaken by a kancil turbo when u r sitting in the new 86.

driving feel is totally subjective, some ppl can accept a slow car with great handling dynamics, some ppl can't. I personally must have both driving dynamics and speed in one package, one cannot survive without the other. it is totally pointless to have a slow car with great handling, it's like masturbation, u only "feel" it yourself.
 
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talking about feelings, u won't get a GOOD FEEL when u r overtaken by a kancil turbo when u r sitting in the new 86.
Nah... The car wont be that bad because the chassis/cornering limit is way so much higher than kancil...

It is an entry level car which can allow u to drive on its limit, indirectly train the driving skill as well.

But hell yeah... overprice... :bawling:
 

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y auto i wonder? :confused:
It's because UMW Toyota wanted us to try out their top-of-the-range 86 before sampling the manual. I should be able to get a feel just 1 day prior to the TIMETOATTACK R2 on the 22nd of this month.

I had follow a 86 when I'm going down hill from genting on one Friday night.
Genting downhill with Toyota 86 - YouTube
that would be someone else I think

If u have 8 minutes to waste, watch this new 86 go up genting, slooooooooowly............

personally, i couldn't be bothered, it's SO DARN BORING
8 min from the bottom to the top is fast, 8 min from the mid to the top is SLOOOOW

8 min for a 200k car from the bottom to the top is SLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW, no matter how u put it. My LE can do it and it only cost me 12k. My E30 can do it less than 6 min. If you have worked there before and u drive up almost every week then u know i'm not wrong.
Can we all not be so quick to judge?

The video was trimmed down and it just so happened it stopped dead on at 8 mins, as trimmed via Youtube Enhancements. Fine it's sort of a timing data but It is never meant to be a statistic for comparison.

Where are the official start / finish points? Okay i guess for GTJ-GH it's typically the last hump at the guardpost. Now where's the Finish? Is there one at all? Coffee Bean? Old Town Coffee? The Peak? I'd rather be safer and use the entry for the last right turn before the Police force hostel (i think). That would mean somewhere in the range of 7:18-7:20. Still not exciting for you I'm sure.

Like I said, This is a FIRST drive and it's not a qualifying lap of any sort. But if one should feel like comparing, then please cut the video, the car and me some slack. Maybe you'd rather a boring video like that not be posted. But look, it's for everyone else. Some people like to take it smooth, some prefer intense action and tyre screeching drama. I'm the first one especially when testing someone else's (UMW's) car. It's easy to tell from the video that the driver (me) hadn't take every single opportunity to maximize the 86 on the straights, in traffic on every single corner. In a perfect scenario, I think the new 86 in manual should do easy mid 6mins.

I generally do about 6:30 in a 2002 MINI Cooper S when i drive up for coffee and cool breeze. This is keeping in mind respect is shown and space is given to other road users around. A stock FD2R should manage low 6 mins. I've been in a 600+ hp 997 GT2 and that did 5:50 at 4am with almost zero-traffic.

Like everyone else, I'd sure like to see footages of you in your E30 doing less than 6 mins. It'll be a highly commendable effort for sure.
 

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Like everyone else, I'd sure like to see footages of you in your E30 doing less than 6 mins. It'll be a highly commendable effort for sure.
And the gloves are off! I'd like to see too.

C'mon people its obvious if you look at the video, the lines and the driving is somewhat relaxed. It's not setting a laptime or anything, just taking a feel of the car, getting acquainted with it.

At UMW Toyota's asking price, for a time attack/lap time machine, the Renault Megane RS would fare much better. Clearly, the 86 is not competing with other cars. Some people just don't understand. They seem to think that the worth of a car is in the lap times. Gee.
 

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Tom,are tihis new 86' have the inspiring confident in term of handling as the RX-8?

If it as equal as the RX-8,I wouldnt be bothered by the lack of HP figures.I been tracked my Z33 for quite sometimes(All OEM 04' Ver.S,6spd,bone stock without any mod) & I found out that I really in love with my RX-8 even more despite it was AT.(09' 6AT,bone stock without any mod)

The cornering beyond 120km/h at b-route like Klawang(Since I live nearby,& using the road everyday to go to work) is always tractable & really inspiring.The confident level that the chassis & steering communication make it easy to push the RX-8 around 135 km/h at averange which is good since my Z33 had problem to pass way beyond that especially on tightly-S bend kind of corner,despite having more power to be abused.

The level of confidents is far more important than outright horsepower,since you can never enjoyed the car that only can perform at straight line but only mediocore or not gaining you enough inspiration or confident level needed to push the car even further at cornering.(Just like when I riding a bike,I not really into speed even most of the bike had more than enough capability to do that,but it was the cornering that matter)

If it has the good-going feeling in both communicative steering & chasiss feedback,I would consider this one as the replacement for my Z33.(I still had an amazing feels when driving either my NSX/RX-8 using the b-road when going to take my liltle sister in school,since it just,the level of communicative between the chassis & road are pretty much better than my Z33 even both car had slightly LESS horsepower & TQ number compared to the Z!)
 

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It is very obvious that the driver in the video did not maximize the power of the 86 la.... E30 in less than 6 mins, you pay the police to clear the traffic? Or only your mouth take less than 6 mins?

An honest timing of my classic Mini Cooper with 1275cc engine took ~10:27-10:30 from last hump at the guardpost to last right turn before the Police force hostel. It is slow but the enjoyment is what matters. When I passed by Starbucks I heard "Wah, this car still can come genting".

For those who blamed your grandpa din't buy the AE86 in 1980s and keep it for you. Now it's your chance to spend RM249K to buy one and keep for your grandchild so that they don't blame you when this car appear in future Initial E.

I love 86 and here's some more photos I found:
Toyota 86

My favorite pic is this one:
 

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I personally can tell u 86 is a dam fast car at the corner, after the chase from the down hill and I can tell u this car had a best handling among all model in the current market and none of any car can compare with it, because the new 86 had it own unique handling and it easy to control by entry driver, it can fly at corners with an amateur driver behind the steering wheel. Cheers.
 

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C'mon people its obvious if you look at the video, the lines and the driving is somewhat relaxed. It's not setting a laptime or anything, just taking a feel of the car, getting acquainted with it.
honestly, that was my intention when i brought the 86 up Genting the first time. I shall await my next outing with a manual 86 to see how a much purer example would fare. i'm confident that'll it'll do a 6:30.

back to the video, again honestly, i can't blame the haters a 100%. it just seems drama-less but that's because it was. At the corners, it was insanely composed. perhaps more than most performance FFs out there including the FD2R. The 86 didn't have the RE070 like the FD2R but imagine if it did.

Tom,are tihis new 86' have the inspiring confident in term of handling as the RX-8?

If it as equal as the RX-8,I wouldnt be bothered by the lack of HP figures.I been tracked my Z33 for quite sometimes(All OEM 04' Ver.S,6spd,bone stock without any mod) & I found out that I really in love with my RX-8 even more despite it was AT.(09' 6AT,bone stock without any mod)

The cornering beyond 120km/h at b-route like Klawang(Since I live nearby,& using the road everyday to go to work) is always tractable & really inspiring.The confident level that the chassis & steering communication make it easy to push the RX-8 around 135 km/h at averange which is good since my Z33 had problem to pass way beyond that especially on tightly-S bend kind of corner,despite having more power to be abused.

The level of confidents is far more important than outright horsepower,since you can never enjoyed the car that only can perform at straight line but only mediocore or not gaining you enough inspiration or confident level needed to push the car even further at cornering.(Just like when I riding a bike,I not really into speed even most of the bike had more than enough capability to do that,but it was the cornering that matter)

If it has the good-going feeling in both communicative steering & chasiss feedback,I would consider this one as the replacement for my Z33.(I still had an amazing feels when driving either my NSX/RX-8 using the b-road when going to take my liltle sister in school,since it just,the level of communicative between the chassis & road are pretty much better than my Z33 even both car had slightly LESS horsepower & TQ number compared to the Z!)
I didn't have much time with the RX-8 but i'd say pretty similar in feel and character. they have almost the same layout and engine position. But because of the RX-8's passenger practicality with the special 4 doors, it would have suffered in body rigidity. Then again, the RX-8 is now a decade old, so the 86 in this current era would have advanced in most aspects, and it certainly translates to driving feel.

You have an NSX?

An honest timing of my classic Mini Cooper with 1275cc engine took ~10:27-10:30 from last hump at the guardpost to last right turn before the Police force hostel. It is slow but the enjoyment is what matters. When I passed by Starbucks I heard "Wah, this car still can come genting".
:adore::adore::adore:
 

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Just another coupe freshly rolled out from the factory to the market. New car price is ok la compare to other cars. Under perform can be solved by turbo kit right after this or if you can't wait, get 2 gas tanks fitted in the boot. Aftermarket parts will flood in after a while. Looks ugly can buy bodykit. Pay RM20 over K and monthly installment at RM2k+, cannot expect much. If don't like can always buy other car.

I'll not buy cause it is not my cup of tea. CRZ looks better and after the K20A transplant, lightweight wheels, bars, suspension and etc mods, still have plenty money left before reach RM200k :rofl: Want something high end, there is a Maserati selling for less than RM150k. Real world is somehow too crude :rofl::rofl:
 

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honestly, that was my intention when i brought the 86 up Genting the first time. I shall await my next outing with a manual 86 to see how a much purer example would fare. i'm confident that'll it'll do a 6:30.

back to the video, again honestly, i can't blame the haters a 100%. it just seems drama-less but that's because it was. At the corners, it was insanely composed. perhaps more than most performance FFs out there including the FD2R. The 86 didn't have the RE070 like the FD2R but imagine if it did.



I didn't have much time with the RX-8 but i'd say pretty similar in feel and character. they have almost the same layout and engine position. But because of the RX-8's passenger practicality with the special 4 doors, it would have suffered in body rigidity. Then again, the RX-8 is now a decade old, so the 86 in this current era would have advanced in most aspects, and it certainly translates to driving feel.

You have an NSX?



:adore::adore::adore:
Thanks for the feedback.The RX8 is very special car since while it not that powerful(what else mine was 6AT) but the level of confidence it bring when you speed up into the corner,you can actually feel the steering really communicative altogether with the chassis,which is always make me amaze with the car.I not a fast driver myself,but I do have a couple of trackday with both 2 wheels & 4 wheels(I started riding performance bike since 17 years old & since then I would going for trackday if my allowance allowed me to do so) & since my first ever RWD sportscar was Z33(Great car,but it lack steering feels & mostly just like many Nissan car,it felt heavier to take the quick S-type turn,& the numb' steering feels doesnt inspired you a confidence to push it more & the car can quickly lose a grip with speed more than 120km/h on the corner as for my trackday experience with bone stock Z33.)

I still think that part of Mazda RX sportscar handle so well might have to do with the rotary engine that was so smooth in higher rev as motorcycle engine & not to mention,the overall dimension are so small for the engine that had 200 plus horses & that contributed to overall lightness & chasiss rigidty as well.(I still,love this car especially when attacking the corner at Klawang b-road behind my house.Handling wise is pretty much like the NSX,but as the NSX is mid engined car & have 2 seat,I still have my big kudos for Mazda engineer for making such an aspiring car that easily built a confidence for its driver to push the car even further.)

Yes,my NSX are rare 91' Grand Prix White.(since 91' in Malaysia is always in red colour or repainted)
& it comes with few rare mod too.But I was thinking for MT conversion with either a JDM short ratio 5spd manual or E61 multi clutch 02+ 6spd but it might be too costly since 02'+ onward are still considered as rare model due to the little production before being ceased)

I slowly on my way of making the NSX back to its original condition.I love a great looking car but I not really keen on having an aftermarket look" on my car as many do.But since the NSX is hard to find,I just need to finish my hunt with a "molested" one like I had now(Luckily previous owner didnt put a widebodykit or else I would be damned to have the car restored!)
 
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It's because UMW Toyota wanted us to try out their top-of-the-range 86 before sampling the manual. I should be able to get a feel just 1 day prior to the TIMETOATTACK R2 on the 22nd of this month.



that would be someone else I think





Can we all not be so quick to judge?

The video was trimmed down and it just so happened it stopped dead on at 8 mins, as trimmed via Youtube Enhancements. Fine it's sort of a timing data but It is never meant to be a statistic for comparison.

Where are the official start / finish points? Okay i guess for GTJ-GH it's typically the last hump at the guardpost. Now where's the Finish? Is there one at all? Coffee Bean? Old Town Coffee? The Peak? I'd rather be safer and use the entry for the last right turn before the Police force hostel (i think). That would mean somewhere in the range of 7:18-7:20. Still not exciting for you I'm sure.

Like I said, This is a FIRST drive and it's not a qualifying lap of any sort. But if one should feel like comparing, then please cut the video, the car and me some slack. Maybe you'd rather a boring video like that not be posted. But look, it's for everyone else. Some people like to take it smooth, some prefer intense action and tyre screeching drama. I'm the first one especially when testing someone else's (UMW's) car. It's easy to tell from the video that the driver (me) hadn't take every single opportunity to maximize the 86 on the straights, in traffic on every single corner. In a perfect scenario, I think the new 86 in manual should do easy mid 6mins.

I generally do about 6:30 in a 2002 MINI Cooper S when i drive up for coffee and cool breeze. This is keeping in mind respect is shown and space is given to other road users around. A stock FD2R should manage low 6 mins. I've been in a 600+ hp 997 GT2 and that did 5:50 at 4am with almost zero-traffic.

Like everyone else, I'd sure like to see footages of you in your E30 doing less than 6 mins. It'll be a highly commendable effort for sure.
wow, suddenly so many ppl post here. i couldn't read all of them, but managed to grab this post (in bold). that says it all. if u know the roads and in midnight with minimum traffic, 6 min or below can be done and has been done many times before, starting point 1st checkpoint right after coming out from Karak highway, end point right after crossing the first bump at Resort Hotel. and fyi my E30 isn't using stock engine.

sorry didn't record anything because I don't have the tools at the time, we did this so often nobody ever thought about doing a video (like I said average once a week going up and down for so many years)
 

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Thanks for the feedback.The RX8 is very special car since while it not that powerful(what else mine was 6AT) but the level of confidence it bring when you speed up into the corner,you can actually feel the steering really communicative altogether with the chassis,which is always make me amaze with the car.I not a fast driver myself,but I do have a couple of trackday with both 2 wheels & 4 wheels(I started riding performance bike since 17 years old & since then I would going for trackday if my allowance allowed me to do so) & since my first ever RWD sportscar was Z33(Great car,but it lack steering feels & mostly just like many Nissan car,it felt heavier to take the quick S-type turn,& the numb' steering feels doesnt inspired you a confidence to push it more & the car can quickly lose a grip with speed more than 120km/h on the corner as for my trackday experience with bone stock Z33.)

I still think that part of Mazda RX sportscar handle so well might have to do with the rotary engine that was so smooth in higher rev as motorcycle engine & not to mention,the overall dimension are so small for the engine that had 200 plus horses & that contributed to overall lightness & chasiss rigidty as well.(I still,love this car especially when attacking the corner at Klawang b-road behind my house.Handling wise is pretty much like the NSX,but as the NSX is mid engined car & have 2 seat,I still have my big kudos for Mazda engineer for making such an aspiring car that easily built a confidence for its driver to push the car even further.)

Yes,my NSX are rare 91' Grand Prix White.(since 91' in Malaysia is always in red colour or repainted)
& it comes with few rare mod too.But I was thinking for MT conversion with either a JDM short ratio 5spd manual or E61 multi clutch 02+ 6spd but it might be too costly since 02'+ onward are still considered as rare model due to the little production before being ceased)

I slowly on my way of making the NSX back to its original condition.I love a great looking car but I not really keen on having an aftermarket look" on my car as many do.But since the NSX is hard to find,I just need to finish my hunt with a "molested" one like I had now(Luckily previous owner didnt put a widebodykit or else I would be damned to have the car restored!)
HBS, please do us a favor by getting your own test-drive unit if possible and tell us from a point of view of a RX8/350Z/NSX owner. It'll be quite interesting since you've been living with these pure NA FR base that are all pretty much adequate in power. The 86 could fit well in your garage.

as for your NSX, congrats for owning one of everyone's favorite JDM. some pictures will be nice. we hardly see a stock NSX around
 

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HBS, please do us a favor by getting your own test-drive unit if possible and tell us from a point of view of a RX8/350Z/NSX owner. It'll be quite interesting since you've been living with these pure NA FR base that are all pretty much adequate in power. The 86 could fit well in your garage.

as for your NSX, congrats for owning one of everyone's favorite JDM. some pictures will be nice. we hardly see a stock NSX around
Can have the test drive unit from Toyota?
Last time back in 2009,there is a group test of 370Z(6MT) with the others member from ZTH.Love the car.So much improvement inside out,but at last need to slow down,because it would be PITA to take care all those car since I know I wouldnt drive it that much!(I riding almost everyday & even my kancil 660 are for night drive by most of the time...)

As for the NSX,it still with those aftermarket stuff(NSX-R steering wheels,CR-Kai 17/18,GT-xtreme Ti exhaust & some others mod)
The progress of converting back the car into stock factory condition would be a slow progress but I try my best to have it done.(Part hard to get,& for japanese car it is quite expensive...even timing belt also hard to come by :stupid: )