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there we go again....... i still remember... approximately 3 yrs ago, at batu tiga... i, and 2 other GTi driving friends could not catch up with adian in his 1.3 wira drifting in all corners... whoaliau... hebat...
Lol... This jiken really is too frank and down to earth.. lol.. and abit rude too. lolol
20vturbo
If wira can drift like Ae86.. then whats the point of people drifting in an Ae86 ? May as well see wira drifting in D1 Japan... dont say those EG/EK trying their best to compete in the ADvan Drift Meeting around Japan..they cant make it compared to a real RWD car.
ZephyRed,
Adian may used to play drift with a FWD.. do you know he moved to a AE86 to get serious into drifting. to have more fun.
Just a note: i'm not condeming FF drifters. its just then when you have the budget. and really seriously into drifting. Get a RWD. you will feel the difference imediately. no metter how much you try or brag about it. you are only achieving half the fun as compared to a RWD. I know some great FF drifters.. they are trying their best to save up money and get a rwd... they know about the real deal.. and RWD is always related to performance. Name me a Super car which is FWD ?
Hope this sliding of FF cars wont blind some of you great drifters out there. A31 only cost rm30-40k. Sell off your Wira and top up to get a a31 if you are serious into having some serious drift fun ! :)
20vturbo
If wira can drift like Ae86.. then whats the point of people drifting in an Ae86 ? May as well see wira drifting in D1 Japan... dont say those EG/EK trying their best to compete in the ADvan Drift Meeting around Japan..they cant make it compared to a real RWD car.
ZephyRed,
Adian may used to play drift with a FWD.. do you know he moved to a AE86 to get serious into drifting. to have more fun.
Just a note: i'm not condeming FF drifters. its just then when you have the budget. and really seriously into drifting. Get a RWD. you will feel the difference imediately. no metter how much you try or brag about it. you are only achieving half the fun as compared to a RWD. I know some great FF drifters.. they are trying their best to save up money and get a rwd... they know about the real deal.. and RWD is always related to performance. Name me a Super car which is FWD ?
Hope this sliding of FF cars wont blind some of you great drifters out there. A31 only cost rm30-40k. Sell off your Wira and top up to get a a31 if you are serious into having some serious drift fun ! :)
a31 30 - 40k?? nice nice.. izit better than heavily tuned ke70?
I'm just giving sample on A31 modified one.. mostly fall between 30k to 40k..
you can go for someother if the budget is there..
KE70 is a good choice too. As well as other RWD ready cars. sort out the suspension and get a lsd. you will be off to some serious drift fun :) and slowly mod up the engine on the way.. :)
I see lots of good drifters trying their best on a FF car.. It is best you guys save up money a get a RWD. The more RWD drifter the better the Malaysian Drift scene will be like.
you can go for someother if the budget is there..
KE70 is a good choice too. As well as other RWD ready cars. sort out the suspension and get a lsd. you will be off to some serious drift fun :) and slowly mod up the engine on the way.. :)
I see lots of good drifters trying their best on a FF car.. It is best you guys save up money a get a RWD. The more RWD drifter the better the Malaysian Drift scene will be like.
If use FF cars, izzit even called drifting? Coz I watched a video clip showing 2 K-cars (Suzukis) 'drifting', with the rear tyres not rolling (coz handbrake was applied), and boy, it looks u-g-l-y. You all have to watch that clip to believe me.
Kindof reminds me of a good puppet show. Good, but still an 'imitation' of the real thing. The drivers were very good at controlling their cars, but c'mon, I don't think anybody can call that drifting. It's like installing the RM38 Brembo caliper covers, like putting the plastic 'brake discs' on your rear wheels. No offence whatsoever.
And I don't think there's a FWD participating in D-1, err right? Can't see a Civic there (although it's popular)... and please ponder this:
If let's say you're a very very good 'drifter' who uses a FWD car to 'drift', would you, even if you're very able, participate in D-1?
Ahhh... how about the thought of thousands of spectators in the Irwindale Speedway shouting obscenities at you (and maybe some of the more adventurous peeing on your wheels)?
I kindof agree with Jiken actually. Please have the grace, honour and humility to accept that there's a certain limitation to what we can do.
Kindof reminds me of a good puppet show. Good, but still an 'imitation' of the real thing. The drivers were very good at controlling their cars, but c'mon, I don't think anybody can call that drifting. It's like installing the RM38 Brembo caliper covers, like putting the plastic 'brake discs' on your rear wheels. No offence whatsoever.
And I don't think there's a FWD participating in D-1, err right? Can't see a Civic there (although it's popular)... and please ponder this:
If let's say you're a very very good 'drifter' who uses a FWD car to 'drift', would you, even if you're very able, participate in D-1?
Ahhh... how about the thought of thousands of spectators in the Irwindale Speedway shouting obscenities at you (and maybe some of the more adventurous peeing on your wheels)?
I kindof agree with Jiken actually. Please have the grace, honour and humility to accept that there's a certain limitation to what we can do.
And one more thing is, I don't think it's necessary to have LSD to drift.
Coz I think I've drifted my car, and my car doesn't have LSD. Heck, I dunno.
I think Keichi Tsuchiya also said that in order to do a 360, you'll need LSD (in the Drift Bible VCD? The part where he was driving the red AE86 in Driftland or whatever the place called). So, if that's the case, maybe you can do a 90 and 180 without LSD. But I think I did a 360, shit, I dunno. On gravel though...
Coz I think I've drifted my car, and my car doesn't have LSD. Heck, I dunno.
I think Keichi Tsuchiya also said that in order to do a 360, you'll need LSD (in the Drift Bible VCD? The part where he was driving the red AE86 in Driftland or whatever the place called). So, if that's the case, maybe you can do a 90 and 180 without LSD. But I think I did a 360, shit, I dunno. On gravel though...
well, LSD is not really a "must" for drifting, but it definitely helps/improves your drifting a hell lot more.
You can still drift with none LSD though, but if you have the $$$ to get one, don't hesitate to install one for your car, it only gets better while the car is sliding, wont hurt though :)
Wah suddenly my name came up ah!! hehehe... those were the days lar, just got married, had to sell off most of my toys, got stuck with my cousin's old Wira 1.3 sedan for a few weeks, so the first thing I did was head straight down to BT3 to play in the rain!! Amazing that I beat all but 1 car that day, driving like a maniac and left foot braking into all the turns at stupid angles hahaha..
actually, starting with an FF car is ok, because at the minimum it teaches you how to use the brakes and weight distribution to kick out the rear of the car, and if things get ugly you just have to step on the gas and it all straightens itself out. Once you've mastered dynamic weight management, it's then time to get a RWD for more fun!! The most basic method of instigating a drift, remember, is to turn in on the brakes, and then do a power-over to keep it sliding.
Ever since the SSO-Hypertune Drift event, a lot of ppl are coming to Djan and me and wanting to buy RWD cars. At the end of the day, you're gonna bash the car, so a KE70 with a blacktop is always the simplest and most cost effective way forward. When you get better, you can move up to getting better cars.
/adian
actually, starting with an FF car is ok, because at the minimum it teaches you how to use the brakes and weight distribution to kick out the rear of the car, and if things get ugly you just have to step on the gas and it all straightens itself out. Once you've mastered dynamic weight management, it's then time to get a RWD for more fun!! The most basic method of instigating a drift, remember, is to turn in on the brakes, and then do a power-over to keep it sliding.
Ever since the SSO-Hypertune Drift event, a lot of ppl are coming to Djan and me and wanting to buy RWD cars. At the end of the day, you're gonna bash the car, so a KE70 with a blacktop is always the simplest and most cost effective way forward. When you get better, you can move up to getting better cars.
/adian
Mr. adian sir,
How come we never see Karamjit Singh doing a drift demo? Maybe you can arrange something (R3, PERT, adik-beradik mah...)?
Izzit against a pro driver's code of conduct (or something..)?
Coz I think it's a good thing to see our very own Malaysian hero 'whack some Japs asses' (pardon the exaggeration), and lift our Malaysia Boleh spirit!
How come we never see Karamjit Singh doing a drift demo? Maybe you can arrange something (R3, PERT, adik-beradik mah...)?
Izzit against a pro driver's code of conduct (or something..)?
Coz I think it's a good thing to see our very own Malaysian hero 'whack some Japs asses' (pardon the exaggeration), and lift our Malaysia Boleh spirit!
That 'amazing' feeling. The feeling that one can do wonderful things without getting oneself into trouble. T-h-i-n-k I got that feeling too when I first discovered that I can't possibly make a go-kart 'terbalik' eventhough how fast I go into a corner and how hard I brake. Then I push and push the go-kart harder, like trying to find it's limits. Found out at the end of the race that I've lapped all my buddies. Shit, I miss that feeling...
huh? izzit? lol :D :lol: :lol:
ff and fr totall different ler.. how? if 86 can do donut in parking lot wira also can ar?
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