Since Alza handles like a boat, some say even worst....

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Ideally I don’t even want to change rims and just upsize to wider 15” tyres but I am not sure how much thicker can the alza advance stock rims accommodate. Are those tyre size for 15inch common? Just worried there are not much choices for the 15 inch... and ideally, if you are changing rims, you’d wanna upsize too.

the stock alza 15" wheel is narrower than most normal 15" wheel in the market..

(6jj for alza instead of usual 6.5jj and 7jj for performance wheel design)

so 185 width is already max perfect fitment for stock alza 6jj wheel

195 width goes to usual 6.5jj wheel


195 or 205 width for 7jj performance design wheel...

good thing is... performance TYRE is plenty available in 195 and 205 width format for 15" size...plenty and quite affordable too

 

[YellowFlash]

195/50 is smaller by 1.45% and 195/55 is bigger by 1.88%, both can be used, so depends what you want out of them.More towards handling then 195/50, more towards comfort then 195/55. But actually 205/50R15 is best fit, only 0.26% bigger but less choices and more expensive....hahaha

Yea, I think I did a sizing on tire rack before and it seems like the one with smallest error is 205/50R15 but then it’s going to expensive since it’s not a common size. No point paying much more just for the tires, I just wanted to improve the ride when driving on the nshw or up some B roads during family road trips. To be honest my 19 months old Alza clocked about 9k KM only.

 

[YellowFlash]

Darn

the stock alza 15" wheel is narrower than most normal 15" wheel in the market..

(6jj for alza instead of usual 6.5jj and 7jj for performance wheel design)

so 185 width is already max perfect fitment for stock alza 6jj wheel

195 width goes to usual 6.5jj wheel


195 or 205 width for 7jj performance design wheel...

good thing is... performance TYRE is plenty available in 195 and 205 width format for 15" size...plenty and quite affordable too[/QUOTE

the stock alza 15" wheel is narrower than most normal 15" wheel in the market..

(6jj for alza instead of usual 6.5jj and 7jj for performance wheel design)

so 185 width is already max perfect fitment for stock alza 6jj wheel

195 width goes to usual 6.5jj wheel


195 or 205 width for 7jj performance design wheel...

good thing is... performance TYRE is plenty available in 195 and 205 width format for 15" size...plenty and quite affordable too

Oh that’s what I suspect cause the tires looks pretty fitting with the rims. Guess I have to change my rims if I decide to get wider tires. I do like the design of the stock Alza Advance rims though.

 

[Izso]

I had a stock Alza auto for a week and I hated it. The only thing I liked was the space and how many people I could carry.

 

[YellowFlash]

I had a stock Alza auto for a week and I hated it. The only thing I liked was the space and how many people I could carry.

Haha... yes the space is good. Well, maybe because it’s not my daily drive, it doesn’t bother me that much. When I drive the Alza, I am happy that I do not have to worry much about pot holes, clearing high humps, coming down steep slopes, choosing a nice parking lot or even attracting the wrong attention. However I do wish to improve its driveability for longer distance trips, etc from JB to KL or Genting. Had the opportunity of driving a number of different cars and the smaller CC cars just ain’t that enjoyable for highway cruising due to its lack of power and lower stability.

 

[vr2turbo]

Yea, I think I did a sizing on tire rack before and it seems like the one with smallest error is 205/50R15 but then it’s going to expensive since it’s not a common size. No point paying much more just for the tires, I just wanted to improve the ride when driving on the nshw or up some B roads during family road trips. To be honest my 19 months old Alza clocked about 9k KM only.

That is why I recommend 195/50 and 195/55 more than 205/50. Between 195/50 and 55 series depends on your priorities.....

 

[YellowFlash]

That is why I recommend 195/50 and 195/55 more than 205/50. Between 195/50 and 55 series depends on your priorities.....

Do you roughly know what is the price of those 15inch tires you mentioned? Such as Michellin Ps3, hankook v12, re003? Been out of touch on the 15 inch sizes, haha.

 

[sweelt]

That is why I recommend 195/50 and 195/55 more than 205/50. Between 195/50 and 55 series depends on your priorities.....

195/55 r15. So far so good. Look like donut.

 

[vr2turbo]

Do you roughly know what is the price of those 15inch tires you mentioned? Such as Michellin Ps3, hankook v12, re003? Been out of touch on the 15 inch sizes, haha.

If not mistaken, prices range from RM180 to 240, depending on size and model. A while back one shop offered 2017 tyres V12Evo2 for RM150 for 195/50R15 size

 

[YellowFlash]

If not mistaken, prices range from RM180 to 240, depending on size and model. A while back one shop offered 2017 tyres V12Evo2 for RM150 for 195/50R15 size

Thanks man, seems like the prices are quite reasonable. Will go and have a look soon since my tires are due for a change in about 6 months time. In the meanwhile, resources are channeled towards my other project

 

[ixeo]

I had a stock Alza auto for a week and I hated it. The only thing I liked was the space and how many people I could carry.

I think it’s damn awesome to be the rear passenger in an Alza. Big ass door, easy to get in and out. Just need to tell the driver to max out the air con.

What you hated about it? Sails like a boat, no power. Anything else to hate?

 

[YellowFlash]

I think it’s damn awesome to be the rear passenger in an Alza. Big ass door, easy to get in and out. Just need to tell the driver to max out the air con.

What you hated about it? Sails like a boat, no power. Anything else to hate?

Fuel economy isn’t good for a 1.5 litre as you would expect of a toyota engine. Stock brakes are less then ideal. The speedometer being in the center position rather than on driver side.

 

[Izso]

I think it’s damn awesome to be the rear passenger in an Alza. Big ass door, easy to get in and out. Just need to tell the driver to max out the air con.

What you hated about it? Sails like a boat, no power. Anything else to hate?

Easy? The B-pillar is very awkwardly placed. I kick it everytime I sit in the 2nd row seats. It's aircon is front only and you have to blow the front blowers to the ceiling and at full blast for the 3rd row to cool down and only reduce it once it's cold enough (usually about 15-20 minutes later), driving it is a bitch because its side visibility is surprisingly lacking and a full sized motorbike can hide in multiple blind spots because the A-pillar is also a major blind spot. The 1.5L slug is the only reason I haven't gotten into any accidents because it has no power to get me into any situation that I can't get out of. The center display console takes my eyes off the road when I want to check my speed too.. that's annoying.

But like I said - the space is good. Even in the front seats with the arm rest down there's so much leg room and arm stretching room.

Fuel economy isn’t good for a 1.5 litre as you would expect of a toyota engine. Stock brakes are less then ideal. The speedometer being in the center position rather than on driver side.

Exactly! Is it a Toyota engine btw? 1NZ issit? ugh.. FC though I managed 12km/L for city driving which isn't bad imho

 

[YellowFlash]

Easy? The B-pillar is very awkwardly placed. I kick it everytime I sit in the 2nd row seats. It's aircon is front only and you have to blow the front blowers to the ceiling and at full blast for the 3rd row to cool down and only reduce it once it's cold enough (usually about 15-20 minutes later), driving it is a bitch because its side visibility is surprisingly lacking and a full sized motorbike can hide in multiple blind spots because the A-pillar is also a major blind spot. The 1.5L slug is the only reason I haven't gotten into any accidents because it has no power to get me into any situation that I can't get out of. The center display console takes my eyes off the road when I want to check my speed too.. that's annoying.

But like I said - the space is good. Even in the front seats with the arm rest down there's so much leg room and arm stretching room.



Exactly! Is it a Toyota engine btw? 1NZ issit? ugh.. FC though I managed 12km/L for city driving which isn't bad imho

Yea it’s the 3SZ engine from Toyota. I think I managed around 10-11km/L usually for city driving.

Quote from wikipedia:
“The 3SZ-VE is 1.5 L (1495 cc), introduced in October 2005. First installed in 2005 on the second generation Daihatsu Terios. Bore is 72 mm and stroke is 91.8 mm, with a compression ratio of 10.0:1 and redline of 6500 rpm. Output is 80 kW (107 hp) at 6000 rpm with 141 Nm of torque at 4400 rpm. It features VVT-i.”

 

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Easy? The B-pillar is very awkwardly placed. I kick it everytime I sit in the 2nd row seats. It's aircon is front only and you have to blow the front blowers to the ceiling and at full blast for the 3rd row to cool down and only reduce it once it's cold enough (usually about 15-20 minutes later), driving it is a bitch because its side visibility is surprisingly lacking and a full sized motorbike can hide in multiple blind spots because the A-pillar is also a major blind spot. The 1.5L slug is the only reason I haven't gotten into any accidents because it has no power to get me into any situation that I can't get out of. The center display console takes my eyes off the road when I want to check my speed too.. that's annoying.

But like I said - the space is good. Even in the front seats with the arm rest down there's so much leg room and arm stretching room.



Exactly! Is it a Toyota engine btw? 1NZ issit? ugh.. FC though I managed 12km/L for city driving which isn't bad imho

thats where i started to recommend Subaru Exiga instead

 

[Izso]

thats where i started to recommend Subaru Exiga instead

Exiga lagi rare la boss.. how to recommend a super rare car that's probably more expensive to maintain?

 

[6UE5t]

Do you roughly know what is the price of those 15inch tires you mentioned? Such as Michellin Ps3, hankook v12, re003? Been out of touch on the 15 inch sizes, haha.

V12E2 is about rm170-180 for size 195/55/15 at the best prices, RE003 is about rm185-200, then PS3 is about rm230-250. So the V12E2 is the best value for money now. I'm using that tire on my son's Swfit Sport and my wife's Livina.

thats where i started to recommend Subaru Exiga instead

Exiga lagi rare la boss.. how to recommend a super rare car that's probably more expensive to maintain?

Long time back before I bought the Livina I seriously was considering the Exiga! But its just too rare. Expensive is one thing but parts availability is another thing! If expensive but can still get stuff easily then not so bad but if also difficult to get parts then even if have money also not much you can do. So yeah then just decided to get the boring slow ass Livina instead. zzzz.....

 

[YellowFlash]

V12E2 is about rm170-180 for size 195/55/15 at the best prices, RE003 is about rm185-200, then PS3 is about rm230-250. So the V12E2 is the best value for money now. I'm using that tire on my son's Swfit Sport and my wife's Livina.

Wow, thanks for the price update. Price is so different compared to my other 17inch which cost upwards of rm600 per piece.

The swift sport is a nice sporty car, very fun to drive. A lively engine coupled with close ratio gearbox, revs well and handles very well too. I almost gotten one many years back.

 

[vr2turbo]

Wow, thanks for the price update. Price is so different compared to my other 17inch which cost upwards of rm600 per piece.

The swift sport is a nice sporty car, very fun to drive. A lively engine coupled with close ratio gearbox, revs well and handles very well too. I almost gotten one many years back.

What size in 17" you using?

 

[YellowFlash]

What size in 17" you using?

i am on 225/50r17 for my AD08. There are plans in the future to upsize to 18" to fit 245 width tires but keeping it on hold as of now as there are other stuff to change first.

 

[vr2turbo]

i am on 225/50r17 for my AD08. There are plans in the future to upsize to 18" to fit 245 width tires but keeping it on hold as of now as there are other stuff to change first.

AD-08 will sure cost more.....hhahaha

 

[6UE5t]

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The swift sport is a nice sporty car, very fun to drive. A lively engine coupled with close ratio gearbox, revs well and handles very well too. I almost gotten one many years back.

Yup very fun car indeed, no regrets buying it especially since nowadays it's so damn rare!

 

[YellowFlash]

AD-08 will sure cost more.....hhahaha

haha...the tire grips really well in the dry, i don't really dare to try in the wet though as i've read many comments about its lousy grip in the wet. intend to go for either AD08R or RE71R for my next set and hopefully 245 r18...with a set of 8.5jj or 9jj rims with better offset.

 

[YellowFlash]

Yup very fun car indeed, no regrets buying it especially since nowadays it's so damn rare!

Is yours the ZC31S? Your son is so lucky cause the daddy loves car. Can share the same hobby. Brought it to Sepang yet?

 

[6UE5t]

Is yours the ZC31S? Your son is so lucky cause the daddy loves car. Can share the same hobby. Brought it to Sepang yet?

Yes 2008 ZC31S manual. He's not really into cars yet but starting to show some interest. No haven't been to Sepang yet la, I'm still teaching him how to drive.

 

[vr2turbo]

haha...the tire grips really well in the dry, i don't really dare to try in the wet though as i've read many comments about its lousy grip in the wet. intend to go for either AD08R or RE71R for my next set and hopefully 245 r18...with a set of 8.5jj or 9jj rims with better offset.

If daily and want wet handling better use PS4, but of course you will loose out for extreme dry performance. AD-08R are extreme category so poorer performance in the wet.....

 

[vr2turbo]

Is yours the ZC31S? Your son is so lucky cause the daddy loves car. Can share the same hobby. Brought it to Sepang yet?

Say for son only, but daddy using......hhahahhahhahha

 

[6UE5t]

Say for son only, but daddy using......hhahahhahhahha

Yeah, in the mean time while he's still learning.

 

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V12E2 is about rm170-180 for size 195/55/15 at the best prices, RE003 is about rm185-200, then PS3 is about rm230-250. So the V12E2 is the best value for money now. I'm using that tire on my son's Swfit Sport and my wife's Livina.



Long time back before I bought the Livina I seriously was considering the Exiga! But its just too rare. Expensive is one thing but parts availability is another thing! If expensive but can still get stuff easily then not so bad but if also difficult to get parts then even if have money also not much you can do. So yeah then just decided to get the boring slow ass Livina instead. zzzz.....

yeap only available as grey import

 

[YellowFlash]

If daily and want wet handling better use PS4, but of course you will loose out for extreme dry performance. AD-08R are extreme category so poorer performance in the wet.....

Yea for more comfort and better balanced ability, PS4 seems like a good option, i’ve tried it on my previous car before. Another super value for money tire is the eagle F1 asymmetric 3.

I’m probably looking at RE71R since it’s as good as the AD08R in dry and better than it in the wet. Preparing to hit Sepang to test out the car next year but preparation is going to take a while.