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i say no 2 tin milo car toooooo........

BUT......not alll PROTON model categorise in "TIN MILO CAR".......

we hate not bcoz.....its......tin milo......

we hate coz its steal money fr tiny / small / rakyat like us........

"THEY R NOT COMPETE IN THE FAIR MARKET""""""""""""""this is what actually we hate so much bout proton.....:banghead:
 

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i say no 2 tin milo car toooooo........

BUT......not alll PROTON model categorise in "TIN MILO CAR".......

we hate not bcoz.....its......tin milo......

we hate coz its steal money fr tiny / small / rakyat like us........

"THEY R NOT COMPETE IN THE FAIR MARKET""""""""""""""this is what actually we hate so much bout proton.....:banghead:
Looks like ppl are still thinking that the price of Honda City and Vios is 1/2 the price selling in Malaysia.... Lolx..... how funny.....

We should be hating AP instead....
 

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Proton Inspira 2.0P..better than Vios and City yo!
 

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if we want to compare.....

1) Fuel consumption
2) safety (eg. how many airbag, how fast its can be stop while driving maybe 100km/h...etc), if really hit, body it-self will hit the driver not??>
3) Brand name (not the name already died many2 times)
4) the origin of the car (not copy / taken or steal fr other manufacturer design, engine capability(can stand hi-rev not?),)
5) 2nd-hand selling value
6) wether its environment friendly...
7) wether it user friendly (feature inside car)
8) reliability of that car...
9) maintenance (roadtax, insurance)
AND so on, son on.............is PROTON mature enough to compete without TONGKAT ALI fr our GOV.....

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one thg really true....IS......most japanese car below rm100k, the deskboard all made like my son toy plastic.....no more like last time......QUALITY one.....like luxury saloon car......even proton preve also better than them.....in this issue PROTON win for 1st time....haha:rofl:
 

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if we want to compare.....

1) Fuel consumption

I was with my friend's on a trip to Kulai. RM81 for 630KM on highway. Avg speed is 120-140KM/hr. Not the best fuel consumption. But i consider acceptable.

2) safety (eg. how many airbag, how fast its can be stop while driving maybe 100km/h...etc), if really hit, body it-self will hit the driver not??>

4 on Preve.

3) Brand name (not the name already died many2 times)

Don't understand

4) the origin of the car (not copy / taken or steal fr other manufacturer design, engine capability(can stand hi-rev not?),)

I think most of the Campro problem occured on 1st GEN2... Didn't heard any these days... But I can't be sure...

Originality...? U mean Mitsubishi???? Oh, they just bought over the Exora and Persona to study for rebadging... As a return, they gave Lancer as Inspira....


Or u're saying Forte and Preve..? Preve design was back then during the Tuah concept... Who coppied who..? Lolx

Mitsubishi to rebadge Proton car ! - Autoworld Forum

Share technology is common in Automotive... Volvo, Mazda too, uses Mitsu's chassis. Hyundai once uses Mitsubishi's engine as well.

Lotus uses Toyota engine. And the list goes on...



5) 2nd-hand selling value

Still consider good in compare with Korean made

6) wether its environment friendly...

Hmmm are we truely ready for environment friendly..? According to Jeremy Clarkson, nope... Human are still not ready to safe the world as long as automotive is concern. Any idea where does the battery pack and the electricity comes from..?

7) wether it user friendly (feature inside car)

Not too bad for a 20 year old brand. They almost have everything in latest models.

8) reliability of that car...

I cannot be sure abt this... But I've also seen VIOS and lamborghini burnt in the middle of the road.

9) maintenance (roadtax, insurance)
AND so on, son on.............is PROTON mature enough to compete without TONGKAT ALI fr our GOV.....

Maintenance wise, at least they aren't like koreans. Sikit2 void warranty.

As for the compete, Actually one of the most stupid model Malaysian thinks, the Arena.. Is competing in Australia with other makers till today


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one thg really true....IS......most japanese car below rm100k, the deskboard all made like my son toy plastic.....no more like last time......QUALITY one.....like luxury saloon car......even proton preve also better than them.....in this issue PROTON win for 1st time....haha:rofl:
For the past 6 years... Proton has struggle and made tremendous changes under the administration of Dato Syed Zainal Abidin. There are numerous changes that took place...

If u look at the Tengku Mahaleel's GEN 2 and DSZ's Persona... They were from the same platform. But Interior and exterior... U'll definitely notice the effort that took place...

Under the administration of DSZ, I think Proton has much improved. But who knows what's gonna be the future of Proton since DSZ has left.

I'm worried too.....
 

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Inspira can't be compared with the proton cars, the car is however still from Lancer Origin
be it some of the parts are local made. The chassis is the same as Lancer...Is not a milo tin,
real solid. I would say from what I felt from the body is even more solid than Vios or Altis 9th Gen.

Proton cars are not too bad, just they have to really take QUALITY seriously in their cars. If not, how to
compete with other brands? Most people buy proton not cuz they like the car, is just cuz is more affordable.
If anyone have a choice, everyone would choose any other brands except proton.

Is true that their resale value is however higher than Korean cars, but is just because there are more demand for it.
Not cuz it is real good.

If the quality is good, I wouldn't mind getting the Satria Neo R3. :biggrin: Not the brand that counts, is what u can offer
the customers. We just want assurance of its quality and a car that wont disappoint us much with its countless problems.
A reliable and fun to drive car is what we want.
 
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Proton and AP are both the same... they team up to tipu rakyat duit and to protect proton... So.. now do you see any foreign cars that is almost the same price as the saga? or perodua Myvi?
 

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Proton and AP are both the same... they team up to tipu rakyat duit and to protect proton... So.. now do you see any foreign cars that is almost the same price as the saga? or perodua Myvi?
Got ~ china cars...u roll it over and there's "Made In China" - one of the world's most used three words sentence :rofl:
 
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Lolx... The previous proton. Waja->Savvy is definitely a disgrace in the automotive world. Seeing improvements done by DSZ from time to time. Finally, it regains part of my confidence and then DSZ resigned. Haiz...

Btw, what does R3 capable of other than making good looking bodykits and racing with a non proton...??? Haha.... We have a transmission facility that has proven to produces gear set that takes 1000HP in Melaka and bodykit is still all R3 does. How ironic....
 

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yes speed2horizon,
when satria neo just launch......the "external look's" do impress me too.....BUT.....i think......wat a waste putting a proton logo there.....IF......the logo is other brand like Honda, toyota.....IM sure it sales maybe triple up......

my fren hav one.....he complaint bout the cvt gearbox......cant hi rev.....
 

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yes speed2horizon,
when satria neo just launch......the "external look's" do impress me too.....BUT.....i think......wat a waste putting a proton logo there.....IF......the logo is other brand like Honda, toyota.....IM sure it sales maybe triple up......

my fren hav one.....he complaint bout the cvt gearbox......cant hi rev.....
Neo with CVT gearbox?:hmmmm:
 

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yes speed2horizon,
when satria neo just launch......the "external look's" do impress me too.....BUT.....i think......wat a waste putting a proton logo there.....IF......the logo is other brand like Honda, toyota.....IM sure it sales maybe triple up......

my fren hav one.....he complaint bout the cvt gearbox......cant hi rev.....
am i mention wrongly......not cvt than wat leh.....anyway the gb r so lousy.....
Err... Neo doesn't uses CVT....

And for most DBW throttle, there's a safety measurement for engine to prevent over revving... No matter how much u tekan, the stepper motor will cut the throttle...

Example, Lancer GT and Inspira 2.0. They are basically same hardware... but the ECU are programmed differently. On N or P, the rev cut for Inspira is lower than Lancer... But simple flashing does the trick....
 

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Still dont get as to why he was talking abt BMW ?? If he can afford a beemer then still talk so much meh complaint here and there ??
I do understand that the service was messed up but why talk abt his other cars ?? :banghead:
 

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i say no 2 tin milo car toooooo........

BUT......not alll PROTON model categorise in "TIN MILO CAR".......

we hate not bcoz.....its......tin milo......

we hate coz its steal money fr tiny / small / rakyat like us........

"THEY R NOT COMPETE IN THE FAIR MARKET""""""""""""""this is what actually we hate so much bout proton.....:banghead:
good comment..

---------- Post added at 12:19 PM ---------- 6 hour anti-bump limit - Previous post was at 12:18 PM ----------

Proton Inspira 2.0P..better than Vios and City yo!
all have pro and cons....

---------- Post added at 12:22 PM ---------- 6 hour anti-bump limit - Previous post was at 12:19 PM ----------

if we want to compare.....

1) Fuel consumption
2) safety (eg. how many airbag, how fast its can be stop while driving maybe 100km/h...etc), if really hit, body it-self will hit the driver not??>
3) Brand name (not the name already died many2 times)
4) the origin of the car (not copy / taken or steal fr other manufacturer design, engine capability(can stand hi-rev not?),)
5) 2nd-hand selling value
6) wether its environment friendly...
7) wether it user friendly (feature inside car)
8) reliability of that car...
9) maintenance (roadtax, insurance)
AND so on, son on.............is PROTON mature enough to compete without TONGKAT ALI fr our GOV.....

---------- Post added at 04:32 PM ---------- 6 hour anti-bump limit - Previous post was at 04:20 PM ----------

one thg really true....IS......most japanese car below rm100k, the deskboard all made like my son toy plastic.....no more like last time......QUALITY one.....like luxury saloon car......even proton preve also better than them.....in this issue PROTON win for 1st time....haha:rofl:
yes..tha's rite...
 

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customers are smart nowaday and like to complain too..
 

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i heard in the clip..he asked the sales manager not to giving a smile while he talking....she or he still can smile when a customer shout at them about bad customer service they got..OMG .....Tak malu ke manager tu kena tiaw dpn org...dah biasa kot kena tiaw hari hari
 

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i also heard bout him/her not able to speak english....blur
 

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regardless the 'proton' name.that was the full sceenes. if i were to decide (of how it came to the situation), i need to know what happened earlier.. it could be of human incompetency, a bad day, everything. just my 2 cents..
 

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The customer mentioned that he has bought a Beemer for his wife (I think), why didnt he save his time and money in getting it in the first place? Either way serves proton good and well. They have obviously not learned after all these years.
 
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