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Singaporean Gallardo Superleggera does sub 2:30 at Sepang Circuit

About time the local supercars from here set the benchmark. Here’s a video, friends from Singapore, Ascendant Motorsport recently made.

“Not the perfect lap, but certainly one he (Jeremy Lee) should be proud of considering it is one of the best times set by a Singaporean non pro in a supercar. Supercar owners from this country tend to tip toe around and generally set poor laptimes. Car will do 2:27 as it is, despite ESP left on. Driver development with this car may be interrupted due to its sale” – Ascendant Motorsports


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    HaZaRd
  • Jan 25, 2010
the symphony of lamborghini engine... fantastic
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Nice. Lambo noise as beautiful as ever.

Driver definitely erring on the side of caution and can surely improve. The way he's holding the steering looks a little odd especially during tight turns but nothing which proper lessons and practice can't cure. Probably not yet having the level of confidence he should.
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    RocK
  • Jan 25, 2010
never on the limit of the car and track..
no Gallardo Superleggera to better his time..
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    Lance
  • Jan 25, 2010
he used slick racing tyres. that's why he can get this time
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    xechnologi
  • Jan 25, 2010
better time with better cars but not with better skill...drivers skill need to be more...hard breaking point and gear change should be more precise....i never drove a lambo before but my opinion is the driver are not very confident every time she/he enter apex corner...so what ur guys think?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqziGJBr2jo
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    BabyGodzillaGTi-R
  • Jan 25, 2010
Wow that's like R35 GTR time.
I wonder what's Marcus Chye and Ron Lim's time on Sepang with the Lambo LP560.
Darn i couldn't chase them on the straight let alone in the corners.
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    BabyGodzillaGTi-R
  • Jan 25, 2010
Nice Drift Box too on the Lambo...
I want the Lambo and the drift box. lol
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Marcus or Ron should be given the chance to run an LP560 in anger to establish a benchmark time. Let the pros show what times are possible.
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    AM
  • Jan 25, 2010
Hi A1,

The LP560-4 is already known to be marginally faster than the older Superleggera in other tests. The new Superleggera compared to both, is supposed to be a significant step up. Data and the JPM motorsport owners both are in agreement that the old SL will do 28, 27 range times. However, that kind of pace is not sustainable by the stock car across more than a couple of laps. This is the case with almost all full weight road cars, no matter the make or model. Stock road cars, to varying degree, are all under-tired, under-braked/brake-cooled, or just plain under cooled.

If the pros can run, datalog, and video their run in either the old SL or current LP560-4, it will be good watching and we'd love to have the data. If there is ever such a run arranged, we can assist either data and/or video systems.

Lambo factory pros have run the cars at Sepang but they were more interested in show-sliding the car than setting a time (tires were also well worn), so the laptimes were not even as good as this enthusiast-time.

The aim of the video is not to show the limits of the SL (the driver himself and most who watch, agree there is more to work on), but to provide encouragement to other supercar enthusiasts to get out there and use their cars a bit closer to what they were designed to do. As an enthusiast and a non-pro, risking an expensive road registered supercar, the driver does have something to be proud of, relative to other enthusiasts in this position.

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    Savahn
  • Jan 25, 2010
That was a good run. Great stuff. I am sure the driver and others could squeeze out some better runs but that was good stuff.

Sigh... nothing really compares to a good flappy paddle gearbox these days. Some nostalgia for old stick-shift goodness.
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Thanks for the reply AM. I was not aware that there is an old and a new Gallardo Superleggera. You got me there! I am only aware of the old SE, Superleggera, LP560-4 and the recent Balboni RWD edition.

Yes the Lambo factory drivers from Europe will probably not be able to cooperate for your datalogging session.

Ron and Marcus are both with Lambo KL and both are competent race drivers. They're also level headed blokes. I think they would be more than happy to do some sessions for data logging etc provided someone provides a car. You can understand that they are not at liberty to take a showroom car for a spin at Sepang. I don't think their S'pore principal would appreciate that ;).

I do agree that any Lambo or any stock supercar are not made to run countless laps at Sepang.

It would be better to drive something less powerful but more suited for that type of thing, to practice better track driving.
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    AM
  • Jan 26, 2010
Yes the new SL isn't out yet but will be soon.

The factory drivers actually have no problem running a logged lap. It's just time constraints since they're only out here to run demos, etc. It is at these demo days held once a year or so, that the distributor has non-road-registered cars out at the track for demo or test drives. Ron and Marcus can easily take one of the cars out and run some laps.

It's ideal because there's a lot less psychological pressure running a track car that doesn't cost the factory a lot of money (raw cost) if it's damaged or totalled, vs a 700-900K SGD road registered car where the owner can be out the whole amount since it's too risky trying to claim insurance with a high profile car. Supercar total loss for the owner to bear entirely, has happened at least once in recent years, and some say it was mechanical failure and not driver error, which makes the thought even more painful.

Have actually met Marcus at the last Balboni test weekend and he is a real pleasant down to earth fellow.


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Marcus is also an instructor so he knows how to teach proper track driving to those interested. I think he did it regularly for Lotus. 2-3 years ago he qualified on pole in Class A driving a Lotus in MME.

Ron was the overall champion in MSS 4-5 years ago I think.
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    AM
  • Jan 26, 2010
Impressive achievements for sure and definitely good drivers. However, perhaps the question is who were the team mates and how did they qualify too. I've seen gentlemen drivers qualify within 1% of ultra specialists. I've also seen fairly inexperienced enthusiasts out qualify experienced pros who've won championships. MME and MSS aren't really series' where there's an accurate comparison of drivers (except for between team mates). A spec series like spec karts or spec miata, etc is a much better comparison of drivers across the field, although I'm not sure if such a series exists locally.

The instructors are some of the marque organized driving courses have similarly impressive achievements in other racing series', but due perhaps to the formulaic structure imposed due to other factors, there is a lack of real understanding transferred to the students.

Understanding tradeoffs, adapting to errors for best recovery (all drivers make errors to varying degree) and conducting simple yet accurate tests, sounds simple, but you can often talk to racers, instructors, and students of these programs and learn that they do not understand or at least cannot express the basic concepts that are key to being an adaptable quick driver.

Anyway, when there's data and video, I'm sure many will be all eyes and ears.


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    BabyGodzillaGTi-R
  • Jan 28, 2010
Anyway datalogging is the way to go and hopefully pretty soon it will be affordable for the general masses like us.
But trying to interpret the data still does take me awhile to understand.

Would be great to meet you guys at AM when you are in town.
Suddenly I feel like dusting off the drift box that's been lying around for too long.
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    AM
  • Jan 28, 2010
Hi Godzilla,

Drop us an email with your contact details. Often up at SIC..


Cheers!
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Hei 'Gojira'. That's why it's unthinkable for us to go racing without our trusty data engineer Marc. Any you know Reuben don't you. Aren't you a pseudo pro race driver already? :)
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    BabyGodzillaGTi-R
  • Jan 29, 2010
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Who's "Gojira"? I don't know any racer that has a nick name of "Gojira".
LOL....

Hey AM when will you be down in SIC again?
Me and my buddy need to see you guys putting full use of the Drift box in action before it gathers too much dust in the closet and becomes a relic lol...
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    sid
  • Apr 5, 2010
The GT-R R35 P800 should do better ;p
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