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Old 10-12-2011, 09:53 AM   #1
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Default Beams NA engine able to mod up to 200HP on wheel NA?

Hi guys,

Just wondering anyone here try before to upgrade the Beams engine 6 speed to 200HP on wheel without turbocharge by remaining NA spec?

Like upgrading cams & etc....Able to achieve 200HP on wheel with 20 torque?
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Old 10-12-2011, 10:00 AM   #2
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Default Re: Beams NA engine able to mod up to 200HP on wheel NA?

sure can get 200whp...but need to spend quite a lot...
even easier to get 20kg-m of torque with less budget.
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sure can get 200whp...but need to spend quite a lot...
even easier to get 20kg-m of torque with less budget.
Ic. Anyone done this before? Can share the recipe?

RM15k is enough to mod up to 200hp on wheel? Can this be done without putting up larger piston?
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Old 10-12-2011, 10:15 AM   #4
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Ic. Anyone done this before? Can share the recipe?

RM15k is enough to mod up to 200hp on wheel? Can this be done without putting up larger piston?

without oversize piston???

for 200hp on wheels i think u need to oversize everything..

paging Mr. 2 Old 2 Rusty.. he's the expert for Beams..

(his car has equal power with a FD2R while testing on a running drag race)

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without oversize piston???

for 200hp on wheels i think u need to oversize everything..

paging Mr. 2 Old 2 Rusty.. he's the expert for Beams..

(his car won a running drag race with a FD2R)

Wow...Need to oversize everything? If we do not oversize the piston but only upgrade to high comp piston, we can't reach 200hp on wheel. How about the reliability when we oversize piston? As this car is a daily drive car. That's why not planning to oversize the piston...

Maybe Mr. 2 Old 2 Rusty can enlight me...
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errr...

whp varies depending on the healthiness of the engine.

roughly...for an average 3S-GE to get 19-20kg-m of torque + additional whp,

2k++ for a used Apexi Power FC ecu,
1k++ for a used HKS Racing header or any brand
less than 1k for a used HKS Hi-Power Muffler or any brand
few hundreds for an open pod air filter system
few hundreds for a brand new large capacity fuel pump
few hundreds for a brand new adjustable fuel regulator pressure (any brand)
& few other mods...
with RM5-6k can give u approx. 160-185++whp (approx.), again depending on the engine's healthiness.

for sure can get 200++whp & 20++ kg-m torque with cams, pulleys, ported n polished head, balanced engine, etc.
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Default Re: Beams NA engine able to mod up to 200HP on wheel NA?

i think u need to start with the basic 1st..

Cold Air Intake
u need a bigger intake.. the intake must face forward.. like this..




Header
Bigger exhaust manifold.. better power at high rpm.. less power at lower rpm..




Exhaust
Not too big.. mayb 2.75 inch.. and since u said it's for daily driving u'll need this..



Extra
Carbon fiber hood, bonet, bumper, etc..
it won't help the hp.. but it sure help ur 0-100km/h time


do this 1st.. later we talk again
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Default Re: Beams NA engine able to mod up to 200HP on wheel NA?

If i were u, i will go for BOT, with 15K to spend. (may be 40 to 50hp extra)
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with 15k to spend must as well go 1j lo....more power than the 3S bot or 200whp 3S mah...
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with 15k to spend must as well go 1j lo....more power than the 3S bot or 200whp 3S mah...
1J poison come again..LOL
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Wow...Need to oversize everything? If we do not oversize the piston but only upgrade to high comp piston, we can't reach 200hp on wheel. How about the reliability when we oversize piston? As this car is a daily drive car. That's why not planning to oversize the piston...

Maybe Mr. 2 Old 2 Rusty can enlight me...
Interesting project...

I might be wrong but I have not seen or heard of a daily drive Altezza with >200 WHP on our soil

Getting there without the use of wild cams can be tough

Nevertheless, besides having fun in your journey to get there, there may be a coveted title of being Malaysia's first 200+ WHP N/A road car up for grabs

Start planning...
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Interesting project...

I might be wrong but I have not seen or heard of a daily drive Altezza with >200 WHP on our soil
yours will be soon...
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NOS are like steroids.
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Default Re: Beams NA engine able to mod up to 200HP on wheel NA?

BOT is way to go.
Fairly easy to install.
Easy to get HP and torque.
Easy to take out and resell if planning to sell your car off.
Power Gain vs Money Spent...

Again up to you to decide... but before you embark on any project check to ensure your base engine is healthy so that you can get the max out of the mod....

But if your mind is set on NA then High Cam, Slightly Bigger Piston, ECU, Exhaust, 4 throttle... etc... which can be expensive.

Dont forget higher power will demand better brakes and handling....
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