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yeah.. don't know how to describe, reliable engine or my luck..

still can drive, still can boost but don't know how long.
overhaul is just a prevention as I have never done it before, hopefully it will stop all whatever leaks.

is ISC universal? able to direct me to the light?

sorry, I'm also an uncle.
I don't know much, just know how to drive..
You say your turbo dying, what symptoms? Mine was blowing white smoke. Turbo shaft loose oil leak into exhaust......lol
 

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You say your turbo dying, what symptoms? Mine was blowing white smoke. Turbo shaft loose oil leak into exhaust......lol
to be frank, I don't know what are the tell sign or symptoms of a dying turbo.

if you recall correctly, I can't boost well in the past 2 years.
turn out to be a faulty ecu, each time when I tried to, the whole engine will choke.

only recent, a change of rechipped ecu, then the boost is normal at 1 bar.
of course, with a new toy, I tried to boost as much as I could..
excited like a small boy although we are old. :driver:

the boost has dropped over time, from 1 bar to 0.5 and over the last weekend, it went back to 0.8 after sending to the mechanic.

my mechanic was telling me that it just a matter of time before the turbo bid bye bye to me.
the cause is probably the faulty ecu, when the spooling starts, it was stopped.
of course, still can play around.

since I am thinking of doing an overhaul, I was exploring to see what is a good replacement.
 

kurt_629

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ok.. the painful part has come:

Price as quoted:
Full overhaul Gasket set (metal 2.0mm) x 01 RM480.00
Piston Rings Set (std) x 01 RM145
Conrod Bearing Set x 01 RM130
Head Skimming x 01 RM60
Engine oil 10/50 HYO + Oil filter x 01, RM205
Gear Oil EP90 x 01 RM60
Full overhaul workmanship x 01 RM500
Total: RM1580

Optional:
Turbo repair + upgrade to 20G RM1300 exclude GST
******any necessary repair to be announced....******
ECU wiring checking - FOC
ISC repair, the mechanic will mod to eliminate the leak, helping the timing to be higher.
 

vr2turbo

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to be frank, I don't know what are the tell sign or symptoms of a dying turbo.

if you recall correctly, I can't boost well in the past 2 years.
turn out to be a faulty ecu, each time when I tried to, the whole engine will choke.

only recent, a change of rechipped ecu, then the boost is normal at 1 bar.
of course, with a new toy, I tried to boost as much as I could..
excited like a small boy although we are old. :driver:

the boost has dropped over time, from 1 bar to 0.5 and over the last weekend, it went back to 0.8 after sending to the mechanic.

my mechanic was telling me that it just a matter of time before the turbo bid bye bye to me.
the cause is probably the faulty ecu, when the spooling starts, it was stopped.
of course, still can play around.

since I am thinking of doing an overhaul, I was exploring to see what is a good replacement.
Turbo is mechanical, I don't think anything wrong if not boosting. Usually boost control is the wastegate or if you have any leaks.
My 2 cases. Waste gate spring broke, can only get 0 boost as all leak out, then vacuum hose broke, waste gate was shut tight, my boost went into 1.3 region. After repair back to standard 0.6 for VR..:driver:
 

vr2turbo

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ok.. the painful part has come:

Price as quoted:
Full overhaul Gasket set (metal 2.0mm) x 01 RM480.00
Piston Rings Set (std) x 01 RM145
Conrod Bearing Set x 01 RM130
Head Skimming x 01 RM60
Engine oil 10/50 HYO + Oil filter x 01, RM205
Gear Oil EP90 x 01 RM60
Full overhaul workmanship x 01 RM500
Total: RM1580

Optional:
Turbo repair + upgrade to 20G RM1300 exclude GST
******any necessary repair to be announced....******
ECU wiring checking - FOC
ISC repair, the mechanic will mod to eliminate the leak, helping the timing to be higher.
Piston rings damn cheap woh!
 

kurt_629

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Not bad for the price...Why not overhaul n service turbo first...Run the engine then go for 20g..
yeah, that would be a cheaper alternative.
spend RM1.5k first, to do up the engine and leaks.

the turbo upgrade/repair, is just a tag along.
helps to save some penny amount on the labor.

repair of the turbo, cost like RM1.4k
while buying a new one, AVS TD05 20g, cost RM1.8k..

*sigh.. need to find money*

Turbo is mechanical, I don't think anything wrong if not boosting. Usually boost control is the wastegate or if you have any leaks.
My 2 cases. Waste gate spring broke, can only get 0 boost as all leak out, then vacuum hose broke, waste gate was shut tight, my boost went into 1.3 region. After repair back to standard 0.6 for VR..:driver:
Piston rings damn cheap woh!
I notice initially, the understanding was only a top overhaul but based on his quotation, it has become a full overhaul.

he has help me to save cost by repairing the ISC, the clutch, flywheel. (*hopefully)
a metal gasket of 2.0mm, is quality.
free ecu wiring do up, my current is a mess, like bee hoon..
 
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vr2turbo

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yeah, that would be a cheaper alternative.
spend RM1.5k first, to do up the engine and leaks.

the turbo upgrade/repair, is just a tag along.
helps to save some penny amount on the labor.

repair of the turbo, cost like RM1.4k
while buying a new one, AVS TD05 20g, cost RM1.8k..

*sigh.. need to find money*





I notice initially, the understanding was only a top overhaul but based on his quotation, it has become a full overhaul.

he has help me to save cost by repairing the ISC, the clutch, flywheel.
a metal gasket of 2.0mm, is quality.
free ecu wiring do up, my current is a messy, like bee hoon..
Change pistons become full overhaul loh......hhahahhaha:biggrin:
 

vr2turbo

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is it?

sorry, I really don't know that's why I seeking your advise.

Its not really changing pistons, its changing of piston rings .
please view again..
You say it is becoming a full overhaul, just missing the pistons loh! Usually a top overhaul almost same work as full overhaul unless you do a De-carbonize job only. To change the rings all got to come out
 

kurt_629

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You say it is becoming a full overhaul, just missing the pistons loh! Usually a top overhaul almost same work as full overhaul unless you do a De-carbonize job only. To change the rings all got to come out
yeah, double confirm with him.

it will be a full overhaul, like you mentioned, since its out.
he will charge me the same while doing the full.

actually, I very fearful..
not that I don't trust him..
I am worried, by doing , will I get to see more cans of worms..

*stress*
I go and smoke better..
 
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kurt_629

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may I ask, does overhaul improves FC?

it's kinda ridiculous.. It took me half tank from Ipoh to Cheras, no jam.
1 full tank from Cheras to JB, no jam..

speed, 130-150km..

normal?
 

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