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Old 05-02-2008, 05:40 PM   #1
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Default Power Capacitor

there is many type of this item.. 2farad, 2.5f, 1f etc. but do we need to know how many watt is suitable. bcoz i had seen advertise 2farad capacitor with 200watt. is that true.
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Old 05-02-2008, 11:37 PM   #2
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Default Re: Power Capacitor

Generally 1 farad for every 1000watts RMS.
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Old 05-05-2008, 01:32 PM   #3
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Default Re: Power Capacitor

The power caps function is to stabilize car voltage, like normal VS,
but it's specialty is for power amp's current supply.

So, if your amp is about to produce loud "thump"(bass boomin) it'll drain a lot of current from your car, the power caps step in to stabilize the insufficient current.

Practically how many farads for your amp wattage still depends on your car alternator's max current.
Higher alt current, may use less power cap (of course more is better la)
Lower, vice versa.

one more thing though, if the farad too high...
it'll burnt your fuse once you start your car... it "eats" first start's current...
becoz if the power cap's charge is empty, the first charge current (while you start ur car) is nearer to infinity.....
so, becarefull when you choose your power caps.
This also can be settle with proper wiring and safety relays properly assembled.
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Old 05-05-2008, 02:23 PM   #4
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Default Re: Power Capacitor

if buy so high farad one, in the end all your car is doing is charging the capacitor only, but the power inside isnt utilised. despite all manufacturer's marketing strategies, this item is not "more is better".
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Old 05-05-2008, 03:05 PM   #5
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Default Re: Power Capacitor

So, i does have their pros and cons....
more farad will make your ICE better.. but will drain your car electrical supply
If gila2 ICE mod can la use these "gila" farads...
drop la car performance.

It depends on the individual needs.
eg. me just used a simple DIY caps for my VS to stabilize my car voltage...
at the same time improve cars sound system.

my ICE small one only a 120W monoblock for one 12" sub....
caps.... accumulated around 45mF = 45,000uF and standard alt.
SQ is satisfying, not great, but still satisfying.
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Old 05-05-2008, 04:16 PM   #6
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Default Re: Power Capacitor

what is mf? micro farad? Isn't that same as uF. 45mf is very small.
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Old 05-05-2008, 04:27 PM   #7
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he must be using the baby caps then...
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Old 05-05-2008, 06:16 PM   #8
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Default Re: Power Capacitor

TQ all my friend.. refer to cybtech..

one more thing though, if the farad too high...
it'll burnt your fuse once you start your car... it "eats" first start's current...
becoz if the power cap's charge is empty, the first charge current (while you start ur car) is nearer to infinity.....
so, becarefull when you choose your power caps.
This also can be settle with proper wiring and safety relays properly assembl

which fuse will burn at first start.. i tot the cap will charge in when we connet the cap terminal to batt terminal.. and the current still on the cap even engine is not running. about pro and cons.. i think it will help the for long lifetime batt and of course improving sound quality especially bass sound.
correct me if i'm wrong
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Old 05-05-2008, 07:07 PM   #9
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what is mf? micro farad? Isn't that same as uF. 45mf is very small.
mf?? is motherf**ker....

brother...brother... i tought you all gone through school....
"m" is mili, so 45 mili farad (mF) is 45000 micro farad (uF).....

i wrote this.... didn't read???
"45mF = 45,000uF and standard alt"
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Old 05-05-2008, 07:19 PM   #10
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Originally Posted by riz2005 View Post
TQ all my friend.. refer to cybtech..

one more thing though, if the farad too high...
it'll burnt your fuse once you start your car... it "eats" first start's current...
becoz if the power cap's charge is empty, the first charge current (while you start ur car) is nearer to infinity.....
so, becarefull when you choose your power caps.
This also can be settle with proper wiring and safety relays properly assembl

which fuse will burn at first start.. i tot the cap will charge in when we connet the cap terminal to batt terminal.. and the current still on the cap even engine is not running. about pro and cons.. i think it will help the for long lifetime batt and of course improving sound quality especially bass sound.
correct me if i'm wrong

what you've mention is correct (about "long lifetime batt and of course improving sound quality") for ICE.

As i said... depends with the wiring.
If you amp and your power cap is wired direct to batt, the car will have the benefit but as long as don turn on the ICE when you want to start you car.
BUT in the other hand... when you change your car batt (when khong) it'll have a huge spark once u 1st connect your batt, that may cause ur power cap fuse to burnt. To avoid this is to install a safety relay between it.

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Old 05-05-2008, 09:22 PM   #11
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mf?? is motherf**ker....

brother...brother... i tought you all gone through school....
"m" is mili, so 45 mili farad (mF) is 45000 micro farad (uF).....

i wrote this.... didn't read???
"45mF = 45,000uF and standard alt"
huaaa... didnt wash ur mouth b4 u talk ga? how come so smelly geh...
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Old 05-05-2008, 10:36 PM   #12
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serve him right... muahahaha (evil laugh).....
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Old 05-06-2008, 10:49 AM   #13
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don't take it seriously..... it just a joke....
here... we always refer mf is motherf**ker....
bcoz here alot.... hahaha......can't stand those buggers...

so, 1st come to mind when mf is that lo....
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Old 05-06-2008, 11:06 AM   #14
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