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12-22-2011, 12:16 PM
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| Re: My Snail Rebuild Integra DB8 Ok. That must be for the AFR reading i guess.
Aiks, 230BHP and 230HP. Are they the same?
Didn't chek the engine temp, I don't know if that was included. But my mech kept spraying water at some parts in the engine bay in between the dyno runs.
Nah, its ok if you can't really hear 'em.
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12-22-2011, 12:25 PM
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| Re: My Snail Rebuild Integra DB8 Bro ddv_nk12 , about the WHP calculation,it's not true/accurate......a engine that had high power will lose less to the drivetrain components,if according to your calculation by percentage then it ill be the bigger the engine horsepower,the more horses it lose to the drivetrain.....get a proper WHP dyno ~ ---------- Post added at 12:25 PM ---------- 6 hour anti-bump limit - Previous post was at 12:22 PM ---------- Quote:
Originally Posted by ddv_nk12 Ok. That must be for the AFR reading i guess.
Aiks, 230BHP and 230HP. Are they the same?
Didn't chek the engine temp, I don't know if that was included. But my mech kept spraying water at some parts in the engine bay in between the dyno runs.
Nah, its ok if you can't really hear 'em. | BHP more accurate,as it name,it called as Brake Horsepower which the machine will apply load to the vehicle wheel to stimulate real world driving ~ |
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12-22-2011, 12:33 PM
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| Re: My Snail Rebuild Integra DB8 20-30% loss??? typically i hear is about 15% only...
but if based on 15% then ur pushing 187hp before hondata and thats already a healthy engine...
after hondata ur pushing 196hp.
anyway...engine looks good..nice and healthy... time to get some higher compression pistons and some high cams :D
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12-22-2011, 12:51 PM
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#154 | | 1000bhp Senior
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| Re: My Snail Rebuild Integra DB8 Quote:
Originally Posted by Wilson13B Bro ddv_nk12 , about the WHP calculation,it's not true/accurate......a engine that had high power will lose less to the drivetrain components,if according to your calculation by percentage then it ill be the bigger the engine horsepower,the more horses it lose to the drivetrain.....get a proper WHP dyno ~ ---------- Post added at 12:25 PM ---------- 6 hour anti-bump limit - Previous post was at 12:22 PM ----------
BHP more accurate,as it name,it called as Brake Horsepower which the machine will apply load to the vehicle wheel to stimulate real world driving ~ | Guess I will need to find a BHP Dyno machine. Anywhere you know bro?
How much is it to do a dyno run to test the BHP? Quote:
Originally Posted by mADmAN 20-30% loss??? typically i hear is about 15% only...
but if based on 15% then ur pushing 187hp before hondata and thats already a healthy engine...
after hondata ur pushing 196hp.
anyway...engine looks good..nice and healthy... time to get some higher compression pistons and some high cams :D | Owhh..Posion posion. Haha. Just joking. Bro, all the while I've been thinking that I need high compression pistons in order to use anything more than Type R cams. But yesterday, my mech said that I can use Skunk2 Pro 2 or Toda B without high compression pistons. True? But I think better do up the block 1st, and then proceed to the head. What say you?
Anyway, I think as for now, I wanna save up for a good clutch. As ad_eg mentioned, I need a clutch to support the power or something like that. Any suggestions?
Bro madman, mind to tell your mods and hp/tq? I have always used your car as a benchmark. Hehe.
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12-22-2011, 01:18 PM
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| Re: My Snail Rebuild Integra DB8 yeah....u can even use toda c or c2 with the stock b20 bottom and still make decent power...
my mods and HP? 85mm bore...12.5:1 with B18C-R cams and PnP head i making about 186hp with VAFC.
unfortunately compression doesnt really increase hp that much... but i did get an improve ment in torque.. im at 20kgmm now from 18 previously.
during tuning the tuner said i need something to help tune my ignition.. then i can get more... VAFC alone not enough coz compression too high...heheheh
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12-22-2011, 03:08 PM
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#156 | | 1000bhp Senior
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| Re: My Snail Rebuild Integra DB8 Quote:
Originally Posted by mADmAN yeah....u can even use toda c or c2 with the stock b20 bottom and still make decent power...
my mods and HP? 85mm bore...12.5:1 with B18C-R cams and PnP head i making about 186hp with VAFC.
unfortunately compression doesnt really increase hp that much... but i did get an improve ment in torque.. im at 20kgmm now from 18 previously.
during tuning the tuner said i need something to help tune my ignition.. then i can get more... VAFC alone not enough coz compression too high...heheheh | Your mods damn nice already. Just change the cams next. Then maybe can sell me your type r cams. Hehe. Where you dyno bro? I think if you dyno the same place I did mine, your figures will be a lot higher.
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12-23-2011, 11:07 AM
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#157 | | 200bhp Stage II Member
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| Re: My Snail Rebuild Integra DB8 Quote:
Originally Posted by ddv_nk12 Guess I will need to find a BHP Dyno machine. Anywhere you know bro?
How much is it to do a dyno run to test the BHP?
Owhh..Posion posion. Haha. Just joking. Bro, all the while I've been thinking that I need high compression pistons in order to use anything more than Type R cams. But yesterday, my mech said that I can use Skunk2 Pro 2 or Toda B without high compression pistons. True? But I think better do up the block 1st, and then proceed to the head. What say you?
Anyway, I think as for now, I wanna save up for a good clutch. As ad_eg mentioned, I need a clutch to support the power or something like that. Any suggestions?
Bro madman, mind to tell your mods and hp/tq? I have always used your car as a benchmark. Hehe. | Sunway JC Racing quite good ~ |
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12-23-2011, 02:53 PM
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| Re: My Snail Rebuild Integra DB8 Nice DB8 bro! From what I've read,if you are going for Todas,Jun,etc.. higher compression is recommended since the cams were designed with high CR in mind. It's not necessarily compulsory but it'll bring the best out of the cams. Anyway, what bolt on mods you have?
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12-24-2011, 11:33 PM
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| Re: My Snail Rebuild Integra DB8 DD- 12++ to 13++ AFR means your machine is running lean....u might asked the tuner to tune for more power and save fuel at t he same time........boss....
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12-29-2011, 09:50 PM
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| Re: My Snail Rebuild Integra DB8 Quote:
Originally Posted by pwhyze Nice DB8 bro! From what I've read,if you are going for Todas,Jun,etc.. higher compression is recommended since the cams were designed with high CR in mind. It's not necessarily compulsory but it'll bring the best out of the cams. Anyway, what bolt on mods you have? | Thanks bro. I just have simple bolt on mods like IHE. That's about it. Quote:
Originally Posted by jo-e34 DD- 12++ to 13++ AFR means your machine is running lean....u might asked the tuner to tune for more power and save fuel at t he same time........boss.... | Does it mean that if my AFR is rich, I'll get better FC and more power at the same time? I told my tuner about my car running rich previously. He said he can tune to make it leaner. The smell from the exhaust was really bad. Now still there but not always and not as bad as it used to be. ---------- Post added at 09:50 PM ---------- 6 hour anti-bump limit - Previous post was at 09:40 PM ---------- Any plans on what to do next? Not expensive stuff. Maybe some cheap stuff to help the appearance of my car?
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12-29-2011, 10:45 PM
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| Re: My Snail Rebuild Integra DB8 Lightweight alloy rims! |
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12-29-2011, 11:14 PM
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#162 | | 1000bhp Senior
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| Re: My Snail Rebuild Integra DB8 That's another 2k plus la bro!! Where got cheap? No marnee already. Hehe. My rims ok la bro. Consider lightweight already. Plus just changed 3 tyres in the past 5 months. Waste change rim now. Aiyah... giving excuses only. The truth is I got no money. Hehe.
Anyway, for the next few months, I need to do some serious savings. So no big plans at least till mid of the 2012. But I surely feel the itch to do something. Just to satisfy me, I am planning to get some really small, cheap stuff in the mean time.
After June 2012, I'll start my project again. Maybe looking into the handling after this. I drove my cousin's Neo R3 when I was back. I have to say the handling of my car is not even close to the Neo R3. My car quite scary when taking corners at high speed.
Plus, since I just tuned my car, I was told better work on other things first and then only change cams and stuff like that. Cuz I'll need to spend more money to retune after that. So, not so much into the performance upgrades for now.
In the coming months, maybe I'll try to have that bling factor in my car. So, I'll have LED all over my car. Naah... just joking. Hehe.
Seriously, I need to keep doing something for my car or I'll not be in peace. Hehe. Maybe get a nice oil cap, radiator cap, rim nuts, repair this and that.
Oh ya, talking about repairs. When I turn or go on uneven road, there is noise. At first, I thought it was my drive shaft. But then, that wasn't it. I changed the front upper arm but the noise was still there. I had to change the upper arm anyway as the bushes gave way. Now, I don't know what that noise is. My mech said that it could be something in the absorbers. I wasn't paying much attention at that time cuz I was more interested in the Hondata at that time.
Guess, that's all for now. Hope to get some ideas/cheap ideas on what to do next. Hehe.
Thank you. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!!!! Cheers!
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12-30-2011, 05:43 PM
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| Re: My Snail Rebuild Integra DB8 Happy new year bro. Let me give you free and cheap option then : Lose weight! The lighter you are the less weight your car has to lug around.
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12-30-2011, 06:00 PM
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| Re: My Snail Rebuild Integra DB8 Quote:
Originally Posted by ddv_nk12 That's another 2k plus la bro!! Where got cheap? No marnee already. Hehe. My rims ok la bro. Consider lightweight already. Plus just changed 3 tyres in the past 5 months. Waste change rim now. Aiyah... giving excuses only. The truth is I got no money. Hehe.
Anyway, for the next few months, I need to do some serious savings. So no big plans at least till mid of the 2012. But I surely feel the itch to do something. Just to satisfy me, I am planning to get some really small, cheap stuff in the mean time.
After June 2012, I'll start my project again. Maybe looking into the handling after this. I drove my cousin's Neo R3 when I was back. I have to say the handling of my car is not even close to the Neo R3. My car quite scary when taking corners at high speed.
Plus, since I just tuned my car, I was told better work on other things first and then only change cams and stuff like that. Cuz I'll need to spend more money to retune after that. So, not so much into the performance upgrades for now.
In the coming months, maybe I'll try to have that bling factor in my car. So, I'll have LED all over my car. Naah... just joking. Hehe.
Seriously, I need to keep doing something for my car or I'll not be in peace. Hehe. Maybe get a nice oil cap, radiator cap, rim nuts, repair this and that.
Oh ya, talking about repairs. When I turn or go on uneven road, there is noise. At first, I thought it was my drive shaft. But then, that wasn't it. I changed the front upper arm but the noise was still there. I had to change the upper arm anyway as the bushes gave way. Now, I don't know what that noise is. My mech said that it could be something in the absorbers. I wasn't paying much attention at that time cuz I was more interested in the Hondata at that time.
Guess, that's all for now. Hope to get some ideas/cheap ideas on what to do next. Hehe.
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12-30-2011, 06:01 PM
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| Re: My Snail Rebuild Integra DB8 Sounds good to me. Where to start? Haha. Don't wanna go on extreme weight reduction. Just simple ones will help. I cant remove the seats, carpets, spare tyre, audio... looks like i have nothing else to remove. CF hood maybe? Anything else? ---------- Post added at 06:01 PM ---------- 6 hour anti-bump limit - Previous post was at 06:00 PM ---------- Quote:
Originally Posted by l2s_turbo Maybe rigid collars can help you as bro Izso posted? | I am also thinking of it actually. Need to see where to do first?
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