Anyone seen pivot voltage spark internals? is it the same as other VS'ses? i know it connects to the car's fusebox. Any suggestions or opinion on how to make that? Or isit the same?

the capacitor polarity.........who can tellme the white line at capasitor... that + or -

white line is -ve
correct me if i wrong

normally should be Negative (-)... for double confirm... do u mind post photo....

The white bar facing us is negative. Electronics symbols :

+ve ----| (---- -ve

the white bar got negative symbol indicated ....
Supercapacitors, or Ultracapacitors should be used for this purpose..
= * Virtually unlimited cycle life - can be cycled millions of time.
* Low impedance - enhances load handling when put in paralleled with a battery.
* Rapid charging -supercapacitors charge in seconds.
* Simple charge methods - no full-charge detection is needed; no danger of overcharge.
come in small package but higher capacity.

improvement after installing VS???
Ground cable works better at lease can see improvements.
Modern car ECU has stabilizer already build into...why the extra external ones?
VS this size is to smooth out micro harmonics, for those encounter light dimming while on high load should have capacitor band and not VS.

i did mine (voltage stabilizer)... used it 4 one week..
capacitor total = 0.14F

then noticed... NOTHING improved. so took it out. (no point buying pivot rm140++)...

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= * Virtually unlimited cycle life - can be cycled millions of time.
wer got unlimited life cycle????????? engine bay is hot.. capacitor spec
normally 85 or 105 deg.. surely hv limit....

* Rapid charging -supercapacitors charge in seconds.
All capacitor charge up instantly what??

yah its true VS no use one.... these ppl do anything to make money...
sumore cheat everyone that it can improve combustion.

after i made diy vs, and install.. and no difference, then i read books/articles..
all say the same.. vs does nothing extra except smooth out battery voltage..
the only time when we need a clean supply is in audio applications (it will strengthen the bass sound).. so if u dont really care about sound quality of ur ICE, dont bother buying it.

combustion in engine is by air+fuel mixture... does it matter if the spark is big or not? OF COURSE NOT. its like this.. u hv 2 cup of fuel, one u burn with matches, another with a lighter.. which one is fully combustible?

Hi donCityZ
Please do more online study and check the response rate of supercaps compare to your electrolytic caps and you will know what i mean.
In fact no one is silly enough to install such thing near exhaust manifold.
Those diy of yours is not done right as you are not using the correct type of caps for the job and single value caps only does it's work on certain harmonics.
Your configuration is not for refine electronics and more of a power bank.

Regarding spark you're right if you light it one at a time but if the engine cycle reach higher RPM then it does really matter.
Do read more about dwell timing for ignition, that split seconds for spark is very critical.

Let put it this way: RO , Filtered , Distilled water does actually taste different but to the general layman ..water is water...

yo clubby,

it dont matter what it is called. super cap, what cap.. it is still a ecap. ya, for filtering it depends on what value of each capacitors... but then, how would u know whether it fits ur car if u just simply buy it off a accessories shop rack? unless u can test each of the products(with different combination of ecap values) by monitoring the battery voltage at different rpm ranges using digital osc, then its no point spending so much $$$ on it right? how u know those VS fit for all type of cars? different cc also... some even use high perf camshaft or such... all is different.

Your analogy is not applicable here. RO water and filtered water are TWO different things. Meanwhile my analogy compare two SAME thing... both are fuel...
in same cup.. only the thing that ignites it is different. If u want to use water as analogy, then make it 2 glass of RO water being drunk by 2 different person. then, the result is same right? the person may taste differently, but the effect of the water on both person are same right?

if u want to improve spark to ignite each cycles, its enough to use good quality plugs and tune the ECU .even low resistance plug cables are useless...

maybe u already spent gajilion RM on those products (VS etc etc) and wanna make urself feels better... i dont blame u for that.... hehe... but i just want other ppl to spend money where the REAL POWER INCREASE comes in. Like extractor, muffler, center box, air intake and such. VS, ground cables, low resistance plug cables basically does nothing, especially to new cars.

Hey donCityZ

If you could read my previous post correctly, i did mention external VS is not necessary.

As for the water thingy - i'm not comparing with the fuel but it is referring to a person character, read closely again.
To be a little direct: That certain person who also plays football does not want to know the differences why certain ball is made of leather , rubber, plastic and so on...to him a ball is a ball....

clubby..
ya la... enough with analogy la kawan..
water, ball, cup, later airplane helicopter everything come in.. hahaha...
jk.

so, conclusion is no point spending so many $$ to buy VS. Agree?
unless u are damn rich and want to make up ur engine bay la.. hahaha..

Hi donCityZ

Sorry if i bored you with analogy... :-)

As there are people who do their business here so i would not do anything that will have direct affect on their rice bowl.
Please also give them a chance to earn a living and not shoot them in the face.
Willing buyer and willing seller....no con job here.
I close my case here. Thanks for being part of it.

ya la... its true.. clubby..
but even want to earn a living, TRY make it an honest living..
if u r selling stuff that claims to do what they are not doing,
that is plain cheating.

but then, who aren't cheating nowadays? in country like
msia, ppl very hard to make an honest living...
hm... thats a different matter altogether.

Can anybody let me know how to install VS in Toyota(old car)?
10q