i think it need more voltage (amp and current) to produce enough bubble to get noticeable FC improvement..... that what been stopping most ppl from diy... but if really 12v is enough then why not? :D all the best bro...
This DIY gadget can be found in Malaysia too. If you are lazy to DIY, you can buy it at around RM 1,800 - RM2,000. I have friend selling it and he brought it in from Australia.
The theory is simple, it generates Oxyhydrogen from "hydrogen" generator. One small unit usually will draw about 20-30 amps from your battery depends on how much Oxyhydrogen you wan to be generated. The amps drawn from the battery is determined by the baking soda that was mixed into the water. The Oxyhydrogen will be injected into your intake, which means u need to drill a small hole there. The oxyhydrogen will help the engine to burn more efficiently and hence, using same fuel but travel longer distance.
We have tested on a diesel engine and we have 25-30% savings claimed. Some tuning on the fuel supply was done to reduce the power of the engine to get more mileage.
One MAJOR problem with this generator was, the Oxyhydrogen is in vapour form and it will corrode your engine components. We must add a water trapper unit along the piping to avoid any water/liquid to flow into the valve or cylinder.
Another problem is, if you have an o2 sensor located at the exhaust manifold, then its sorry to say that you wont be able to use it unless u do some tuning on the ECU. Alot of these sellers claimed that the o2 sensor cause any problem after installing the unit, but believe me, we tested and it wont have any petrol savings or maybe worst FC.
Anyone interested to get one unit, i might be able to get it for you. If you wan to DIY it, it wont be easy.
I can answer any questions if you all do have, as I have came across with this gadget and tested it. To clarify this, Im NOT the seller of this product. I'm the customer...to share my experience.
doncityz: I don't know what is the bubbler you mentioned. But u need a water trapper to dry the vapur gas before injecting into the intake manifold. It 100% wont rust, but i will corrode as the Oxyhydrogen gas will have chemical reaction with the metal components in your engine.
If you really want to DIY the generator, I can 100% support you with watever knowledge I have.
icecube: yes, the amp that was needed is the main concern! Coz if we draw too much amp from the battery, when idling, your battery will be drained! But there is a way to avoid this to happen as we have an idea to solve this issue.
fritz.. nice of u to drop by and share ur thoughts and experience!
but u mentioned u used baking soda? my prototype is not using any catalyst.. just plain distilled water (Spritzer brand).. i think if u add catalyst (baking soda/vinegar/or other acid/alkali), it will speed up hydroxene generation.. but, wont it make your water polluted with salts? thats y i use only distilled water.
about u saying the corrosion of engine parts, did you witness it yourself or tested yourself or someone else said it to you? i don't think it will corrode the engine.. since the surface of engine parts is well protected with lubricant oil.
minor H2O vapour is ok i guess.. since in everyday lives, there are already H2O vapour in the air.. esp more is contained in air after rain etc.. but if u witness the corrosion of engine parts by yourself, how long does it take to corrode it? its weird since new car's engine block is made of alloy steel.. put acid on it, yea it corrodes, but water? i doubt it very much... but do share ur knowledge about this.. for example the type of engine u testing etc.
about the tuning ECU, i think is maybe necessary too.
High fuel consumption FTW :-D.I like this idea but I am sorry,I am boosted and I got the ecu and all dat,cant bother.At the end of the day I still gonna have to buy gas,and I got a heavy foot :-p. Keep up the good work tho ppl
fortiscuore, im also curious about turbocharged/supercharged car FC, what is cc of ur car and how many bar are u boosting? and under these condition, how much is your FC?
doncityz: I would like to know what flow rate do you expect the prototype you are doing if you don't use catalyst? I guess its hard to generate enough oxyhydrogen if you don't add catalyst. Our tested unit with catalyst, drawing 30amps will only have a very very very low flow rate which is 50L/hour or less if i was not mistaken. Have to check back the report.
Basically, with or without catalyst, the unit will also generate oxyhydrogen. It won't pollute the water.
As for the corrosion, I'm the one to witness and clean up the whole intake manifold. Just to make this clear, the gas that are generated will be Oxyhydrogen (Brown gas) and not pure water vapor. I'm lucky to found out this problem early. I have tested it for 4000KM when i realize this problem. It corroded part of my intake manifold and built up composites on the manifold. If I discovered this problem abit later, I guess it will corrode the engine valves.
But don't worry about this issue anymore as you can get the water trapper or dryer to get rid of this problem. If you need this, I can tell u wat brand we are using.
I want to ask, your prototype unit is planning to draw how many amps out from the battery?
doncityz: I would like to know what flow rate do you expect the prototype you are doing if you don't use catalyst? I guess its hard to generate enough oxyhydrogen if you don't add catalyst. Our tested unit with catalyst, drawing 30amps will only have a very very very low flow rate which is 50L/hour or less if i
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