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Caarzee

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thanks midship. hope to get in contact with ken again :)

did you get the feel of the car (cabin vibration & engine response) after the balance shaft removal?
 

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Hi midship

Haha. Good feedback. I am very much looking forward to do this bsr. But also need to get ken's feedback how was the engine condition after a few months/years. What i gather from valboo from canada & terranismo from peru, the car was in a great shape after a year.

Do you recall how long did it took the service center to get the balance shaft out? Do you own an exy too?

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Hi

I'm looking for an aftermarket aluminum radiator with core thickness > 42mm. Does anyone know if these are available? Best if you know the price range.

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Hi Carzee, is good to see you still active in XT forum. I still keep in touch with Ken, give me your email, I will send you his latest mail address.

I believe the effect is huge after remove the BSR, the other cheaper way is to cut the chain directly and get the workshop to tune the engine, otherwise it will shake like hell....

The downside of remove BSR is increase in the lub, extra 2 liter....which 1 quite heavy to the car.
 

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Hi CKeng1,

Yea, I remember Ken often mentioned about you. You are his partner in crime! hahaha. Are you still having your exy? Did you do the BSR too? I'm inclined to go with the chain cut, throw out the shafts but putting back balance shaft covers plus oil plug. (see 02-06 QR25DE free balance shaft removal..)

Did you went for this option as well? I'm curious to find out because you seems to have some experience there. haha. What type of tuning are you referring to - idling? Also, wanted to find out, how is the engine condition a year after :) i'm sure there's nothing serious but it takes comfort to find out as well. hehe.

Seems to be quite in most forums without Ken around. haha.

Hope to hear from your opinion and Ken's contact soon.

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Hi Caarzee,

I am driving the XT, 8 yrs and mileage is about 130,000km. thinking of replacement, but not many option these days(and money is another issue), any good suggestion?

I didnt carry out the BSR, since the kit will cost about 300USD, the cheapest way is just open up and cut the chain, leave the balance shaft run free inside. The downside is to check the idling condition, since the engine may vibrate more.

I did quite a lot to my XT, no time for the piggy back mod.

I think 2 of us frustrated about the other forum because the admin...

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have you try out the light weight pulley, seems like i cant get access to it.
 
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hi CKeng1,

Wow. 130k for 8yrs. I've already clocked 140K in 6yrs, mostly city drive. Is this your weekend car? My next car, if ever be, will be a full hybrid. Perhaps Prius. but having sat on a SUV, not sure if i'm about to switch for a sedan car. haha.

JWT BSR now cost about USD80. About the chain cut, where did you get the feedback from? mostly from forums or from someone you know? I'm interested to find out more from first hand conversion. I assume the idling will be set upwards. Is that a correct assumption? Mine is about 750-850rpm at the moment.

What else did you mod your XT? Interested to find out too. haha. Did you decat like that Ken did?

I'm interested to piggy back mod, but looking at Xtrail ecu works on a closed loop, not sure if that's good. A tuner from puchong recommended me to use an electronic fuel regulator (EFR) first for better a/f ratio, and torque output.

yeah, i heard about Ken's frustration. i've heard he moved to canada? would like to get in touch with him.

I've gotten a LCP from 2JR (about RM400 after conversion plus shipping) about just two months ago. Happy with it. I don't do redline a lot but certainly it improves in drivability and slightly improve in the car fc at about 10-20km of the same tank capacity (plus same driving style).

May I ask, what is your current exy fuel consumption (ltr/km or km/ltr) is like? I assume you own a qr25. Mine's a qr20, FC is about 52liter for 410km. I find it bad, that's why I'm interested in BSR, and then do a EFR and close shop on mods.

hope to hear from you soon.

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HI Caarzee.

Cutting about the chain, there is plenty on the link that u sent to me, Most of them did that on their sentra, but i didnt receive any local information.

I am not keen to further modify the XT now, plenty of rattling noise come out, especially after turning on the aircond.

What is LCP? (i am driving 2.0L also....)

I redo the extractor, 4-1, remove both cat by replacing 1 bullet and the rear muffle replace with Matola 2L muffler (s-type). (Jaffar in sunway), then i found a good muffler guy in Kepong, near the maybank there, good experience, but not good workmanship. hahaha

My current FC is about 3/4 tank can reach about 400++km, depends on how i drive these days. I did advance the timing, so FC is slight higher compare to normal XT

I think Ken install his AFC controller(piggy back) from 1 of the puchong car mod center also.

I remember that fuel regulator doesnt work in our car since the engine is design in the sense of computer chip control, only AFC ratio can be adjusted.
 

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Hi CKeng1,

Yea, so far, Ken is the only guy I know had done BSR. So, it will be good to hear from feedback from him personally. Did you manage to get hold of his contacts?

Rattling sound after a/c turned on? If I may suggest, do a good quality grounding. I did mine for RM100 by this reputable/honest/humble seller ([WTS] Custom made grounding cable), 4pts grounding (fw-alternator, engineblock-fw, engineblock-battery, battery-fw). Your electricals will run better esp with a/c working, and gear change will be smoother. I also bought a voltage stablizer RM160 from him (there wasn't any hardcore selling from him) and days later, I personally asked if he could do a direct +ve cable from battery to alternator (with a fuse near to the battery). All this are proven effective at least for me. Read his forum, there's good few feedbacks as well.

LCP = lightweight crank pulley. I got them here (2J-Racing Lightweight Crank Pulley QR25DE)

I got a chap ayam 4-2-1 header (hotbits are known to crack), and redo the downpipes to less restrictive flow. So previous cat-con is now just a pipe and the existing bullet is where it is now and then the stock muffler behind. Interested to know more about your exhaust, if you have a picture taken and uploaded somewhere, that would be great. did you do anything with intake? I remember Ken kept it at stock for the intake and with hotbits 4-2-1 for the exhaust, but can't recall how he set up the rest of the exhaust.

So, you have two bullets (one that replaced the decat, and another the original bullet) before the motola muffler? I remember Ken had motola too.

Your FC seems reasonable, better than mine. I'll get 350-380km with 3/4 tank only.

here's the guy who tuned exy with electronic fuel regulater, https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?...7470775133.402157.319009980132&type=3&theater.

I'll like to do this EFR first and maybe months later the piggyback (probably Work's EMS or Emanage).

What other mods that you have done and you think it's effective on your exy?

thanks.
 

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Hi CKeng1,

Yea, so far, Ken is the only guy I know had done BSR. So, it will be good to hear from feedback from him personally. Did you manage to get hold of his contacts? <-- I will pm you his personal email..

Rattling sound after a/c turned on? If I may suggest, do a good quality grounding. I did mine for RM100 by this reputable/honest/humble seller ([WTS] Custom made grounding cable), 4pts grounding (fw-alternator, engineblock-fw, engineblock-battery, battery-fw). Your electricals will run better esp with a/c working, and gear change will be smoother. I also bought a voltage stablizer RM160 from him (there wasn't any hardcore selling from him) and days later, I personally asked if he could do a direct +ve cable from battery to alternator (with a fuse near to the battery). All this are proven effective at least for me. Read his forum, there's good few feedbacks as well. <-- I dont think the sound from not proper earth, It might be the physical part hiting each other, i may need to find out more, especially during start the car in the early morning.

LCP = lightweight crank pulley. I got them here (2J-Racing Lightweight Crank Pulley QR25DE) <-- is it the same diameter? I would like to try out..Any significant effect?

I got a chap ayam 4-2-1 header (hotbits are known to crack), and redo the downpipes to less restrictive flow. So previous cat-con is now just a pipe and the existing bullet is where it is now and then the stock muffler behind. Interested to know more about your exhaust, if you have a picture taken and uploaded somewhere, that would be great. did you do anything with intake? I remember Ken kept it at stock for the intake and with hotbits 4-2-1 for the exhaust<-- He redo with Jafar, but can't recall how he set up the rest of the exhaust. <-- I think QR25 engine intake comes with metal, and QR20de comes with plastic. But my opinion, keep the ori 4-1 extractor if you are looking for low rpm with high torque.

So, you have two bullets (one that replaced the decat, and another the original bullet) before the motola muffler? I remember Ken had motola too. <-- Yes, 2 types of bullet, 1 straight and 1 circular flow

Your FC seems reasonable, better than mine. I'll get 350-380km with 3/4 tank only.

here's the guy who tuned exy with electronic fuel regulater, https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?...7470775133.402157.319009980132&type=3&theater.

I'll like to do this EFR first and maybe months later the piggyback (probably Work's EMS or Emanage).

What other mods that you have done and you think it's effective on your exy?


thanks.
I take out the voltage stabiliser and remain the earth due to it affect my pick up power., but another way it does improve the speaker bass quality. besides, my earth cable is currently contacted to 5 points - alternator, engine block , battery,2x body, felt diff initialy, but nothing much now. may need to redo and sand off the rust.
 

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Hi CKeng1,

For LCP, the given url earlier is stock-size lightweight pulley = same diameter as stock pulley. This is not an underdrive pulley. The effect is that (1) slightly better fc, perhaps 10-30km based on full tank (2) quicker rpm response due to light weight material.

Grounding is good and sufficient, but the quality of wire makes it more efficient as well.

For discussion purposes, the other day, I did a trial/error thingy. The stock intake has a vacuum/hose line from air intake (after MAF) to the engine breather (that circulates air of the crankcase ventilation). What I did was to put a cap on the vacuum/hose outlet at the stock intake and put a mini air filter at the engine breather. So, now these are separated. Using a OBD2 reader, I find the engine load is lighter (reading from idle and first gear) but fc is heavier(about maybe 50km less than the original setup). However, when I put back to stock setup, the engine load is heavier but fc seems better. Have you encountered such silly setup before? hahaha.

Thanks.
 

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I think i understand what your experiment, the increase of the amount of hot air affect the fuel required to burn. it is similar like running the car at night, the air is denser and fuel is higher, so we felt the car is more powerful...
 

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Have you come across the throttle body extender. The aust member got it from Canada and 'review' that works. But I have doubt on that, if we are looking for the extender, we can just extend the air vent out...or slot in a pvc pipe for that section(even samco soft pipe will do)..
 

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Hi Caarzee,


The TB extender is install before the TB butterfly valve (TB>TB Extender>soft hose>air filter), something like that.
I think it is looks like a thin plate compare the photo you attached, and it is made of light alloy.. Only extended about 5mm, I dont really understand the theory behind. I believe it doesnt make sense to TB, routing cleaning is better, hahahah

Are you using any mushroom type air filter, any diff compare to drop in replacement? I am using K&N, which make diff for me after replace the extractor + cat off+ muffler..