With 1K what you can do to engine upgrade 4G15..

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Hi there,
I own Proton Saga year 1992 1.5 magma engine (4G15, I think) and its engine life gonna finish soon because too many smoke come out already. So I think instead of changing to new engine (low budget) what can I do to rebuild this engine back to normal or to become a fighter. So I need your advice here with budget 1K, please list down what I should buy to upgrade my machine, or do you have any idea where to get a cheap engine. Remember! the budget is no more than RM1000 and maybe still using the same engine (rebuild)... Thanks
 

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get a 2nd hand unit weber..around RM500-RM700

opss sorry..the price does not include in rebuilding ur engine...
 

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1k , i suggest u go to the halfcut shop
get a nice 4g15 engine
fix it in , better move is u find those who converting 4g15 to newer engines , grab theirs ler
 

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ya.... either rebuild the current engine or get another engine !!! only that with 1k !! yr car is quite old so even after changing/rebuliding the engine u may still need to repair/replace other parts. i would prefer rebuilding coz then u can change the internals, rebore & do some things to make yr engine a bit more powerful .
 

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jinkl- said:
1k , i suggest u go to the halfcut shop
get a nice 4g15 engine
fix it in , better move is u find those who converting 4g15 to newer engines , grab theirs ler
just asking.

how much is best to offer for 4g15? and how much is cost for the whole process to change engine
 

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I suggest u save up your money to transplant better engines.

No worth to maintain ur current engine.
 

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save the cash really...at least get 2k la...u nvr know when that extra 1k might come in handy. it's like that one la sometimes...set a side at least 1k for misc items.

i'm sure u've got enough will power to save up another 1k correct?
 

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change ur engine with 1k or save ur money to get a better engine or go buy TOTO or magnum u might the lucky 1 then get a nicer car....
 

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thteh86 said:
weber shorten the lifespan of ur engine rather than lengthen le taikor...u wanna kill his engine sibo
how long can an engine take anyway ?? 1 year, 2 years or 3 years??? all engine will have shorter lifespan depending on ur right foot and the wrong mods, thats the thing tat will shorten the lifespan of an engine.... weber only feeds in more fuel and not killing the engine in anyway, then if i am using that u suppose that i will be changing in another 6 months?? even if i do change engine, i will still buy back the same model of engines for usage and to satisfy my taste of modding from something that is totally stock standard, a modder gets satisfied by wat he mods and the pleasure of driving one, and not getting a HIGH horsepower engine and dunno where to start modding, becos ur engine already has high horsies....so apa mau mod???

u ask americans or aussies fella la taikor, most carbie uses webers or other aftermarket high performance carbs to replace their stock carbs, then u think wat will happen to them??? engine kong also kah?? i know a few ppl in aussie which are all die hard fans of weber and solex..all of them are using those carbs...and its been 4 years..since i know them and b4 i join zth..and their engine till now is in perfect condition..except for a beetle owner la which he has to change cyclinder cos cracking la...

sorry for being long winded.

rgds
 

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gogogo weber....unker marah loe.
chill chill.lifespan doesnt matter,as long as u enjoy the mod.
i guess unker's car can tapao 1.6satria anytime.
 

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1.6 onli ar?

wit his 292 duration piper cam n twin weber wit evo fuel pump...

1.8 also he close 1 eye....:D
 

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wahh allo satria95..my one cant even beat a kancil 850 la nia, that kancil can tapao me then go eat fei chu yuk lar...mauhahahahahahha :D
 

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fstrader said:
how long can an engine take anyway ?? 1 year, 2 years or 3 years??? all engine will have shorter lifespan depending on ur right foot and the wrong mods, thats the thing tat will shorten the lifespan of an engine.... weber only feeds in more fuel and not killing the engine in anyway, then if i am using that u suppose that i will be changing in another 6 months?? even if i do change engine, i will still buy back the same model of engines for usage and to satisfy my taste of modding from something that is totally stock standard, a modder gets satisfied by wat he mods and the pleasure of driving one, and not getting a HIGH horsepower engine and dunno where to start modding, becos ur engine already has high horsies....so apa mau mod???

u ask americans or aussies fella la taikor, most carbie uses webers or other aftermarket high performance carbs to replace their stock carbs, then u think wat will happen to them??? engine kong also kah?? i know a few ppl in aussie which are all die hard fans of weber and solex..all of them are using those carbs...and its been 4 years..since i know them and b4 i join zth..and their engine till now is in perfect condition..except for a beetle owner la which he has to change cyclinder cos cracking la...

sorry for being long winded.

rgds

relax unker ..relax....

an engine which does not properly service oso can lead to fast wear n tear..

therefore,

to carb user....Weber should give significant power...no bullshit...ask unker fred la..weber taikor...hehe

p/s=r we running off topic again?er...for 1k..just ask the price quotation from the nearby mechanic lor....then u know wether ur budget is enough or not....
 

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fstrader said:
put weber la, nahh this one..:D

FUYOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO... :eek: :D :p

(The singing quartet of pure raw carbs...PErGH....beh tahan...si beh song...) :D

Unker fred ah...when wanna bring me out for a ride? u let me sit once la then spa on me... :D

*if adding more air and fuel into the engine will kill an engine...then turbocharged cars...will have a lifespan of just 3 months. :p
 

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wahhhh got spa go, i dont mind wor taikor....ahahahahahahah:D

cipan sif00, me also learn from u ma...u lar betul betul weber taikor :p ahhahahahahha..
ps* he still has a DCOE 4 turtle under his bed in his room:D ...

yong, 1.8 one eye close?? kenot la...my car damm 7 slow bai hehehehehehhee....
 

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fstrader said:
how long can an engine take anyway ?? 1 year, 2 years or 3 years??? all engine will have shorter lifespan depending on ur right foot and the wrong mods, thats the thing tat will shorten the lifespan of an engine.... weber only feeds in more fuel and not killing the engine in anyway, then if i am using that u suppose that i will be changing in another 6 months?? even if i do change engine, i will still buy back the same model of engines for usage and to satisfy my taste of modding from something that is totally stock standard, a modder gets satisfied by wat he mods and the pleasure of driving one, and not getting a HIGH horsepower engine and dunno where to start modding, becos ur engine already has high horsies....so apa mau mod???

u ask americans or aussies fella la taikor, most carbie uses webers or other aftermarket high performance carbs to replace their stock carbs, then u think wat will happen to them??? engine kong also kah?? i know a few ppl in aussie which are all die hard fans of weber and solex..all of them are using those carbs...and its been 4 years..since i know them and b4 i join zth..and their engine till now is in perfect condition..except for a beetle owner la which he has to change cyclinder cos cracking la...

sorry for being long winded.

rgds
uncle..don marah² at early morning...later cepat tua..:D ...i think thteh refer to this fella car..not ur car lah...hehehhe..peace...
 

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hatta taikor, me not marah..in fact i know teh personally ...just wanted to explain only..ehhehehehehe :D

peace thteh taikor driftking :p
 

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1K, cant do jack shit (sorry for using harsh words but im being honest here)

Overhaul will cost you around there, or more + hidden cost + variables depending on how much damage your engine has done. one small example is if the block is scratched, you need to rebore and polish back the block + purchase new pistons to fit in.

Engine kosong, better take from people who are converting, and should be fairly new. you can even take a fully injection engine and convert too if they are from those new batch of wiras. price? sometimes they let go cheap mah untung lor.

overall, 1K is really on the limit already. you should fork out at least RM500 for some hidden cost too.

My 2 Cents.
 

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fstrader said:
wahh allo satria95..my one cant even beat a kancil 850 la nia, that kancil can tapao me then go eat fei chu yuk lar...mauhahahahahahha :D
uncle Fred, where got Kancil u cannot tapau u smoke kancil kau kau got lar......... :eek:
 

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True, get another used 4g15p engine better, since you have limited budget. Probably later when you have the enough budget, then only transplant to a better engine. Not sure whether enough or not lare, the labour haven't included yet, still have to change parts like timing belt and bla bla bla if necessary. Maybe budget RM 1,500 at least.
 

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keep the 1k lar... save more and go for more powerful upgrade... if u wanna stick to ur current engine, add supercharger or turbocharger lo... if not do engine conversion, as many sifu sifu recommeneded here...