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1. Don't buy a car unless you absolutely need a car. If you have a car and there's nothing wrong with it, just maintenance, then you're just butt itchy wanting to change new car. Any car will eventually hit a stage where you need to replace wear & tear vs a new car.
2. Cash is king.
3. Used car under warranty will always be a better value than a new car. Always. VALUE.
4. Cash is king.
5. Don't listen to the woman when buying a car, unless it's her car. Usually they only car about how they FEEL about the car.
6. Cash is king.
7. Newer cars is almost always better. Unless its a VW, the previous top of the line VW Passat is better spec'ed than the current top of the line VW Passat. lol.
8. Listen to this joker called ixeo if you want factual, objective opinion unadulterated by emotions.
9. Cash is still king.

EDIT: I think 5. would be bad advice if you guys are married to the said woman. So I have decided to strike that out. It is not worth having to sleep on the couch everyday, unless it's a race car. If you're buying a race car, then definitely don't listen to her. You can sleep in your car but you can't drive your house. So the couch is okay, just buy the race car.
 

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1. Don't buy a car unless you absolutely need a car. If you have a car and there's nothing wrong with it, just maintenance, then you're just butt itchy wanting to change new car. Any car will eventually hit a stage where you need to replace wear & tear vs a new car.
2. Cash is king.
3. Used car under warranty will always be a better value than a new car. Always. VALUE.
4. Cash is king.
5. Don't listen to the woman when buying a car, unless it's her car. Usually they only car about how they FEEL about the car.
6. Cash is king.
7. Newer cars is almost always better. Unless its a VW, the previous top of the line VW Passat is better spec'ed than the current top of the line VW Passat. lol.
8. Listen to this joker called ixeo if you want factual, objective opinion unadulterated by emotions.
9. Cash is still king.

EDIT: I think 5. would be bad advice if you guys are married to the said woman. So I have decided to strike that out. It is not worth having to sleep on the couch everyday, unless it's a race car. If you're buying a race car, then definitely don't listen to her. You can sleep in your car but you can't drive your house. So the couch is okay, just buy the race car.
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I personally think your friend is right.


Msia hasn't hit bottom yet and it's quite precarious at the moment. If you're not in a hurry to buy the car my personal opinion is to wait it out. If your income is not affected at all by the economy then you are king. Cash is king. Just wait it out - buying new at this point of time is going to be a big waste of money.
Yup...the worst is yet to come.
Expect it to be as early as Aug or as late as Oct. If one have cash and very stable financially, might get the car he want for a bargain.
 

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Yup...the worst is yet to come.
Expect it to be as early as Aug or as late as Oct. If one have cash and very stable financially, might get the car he want for a bargain.
Those companies not doing well already have closed, some just wait and see how the market fairs, whether to continue or pack up. Some even after salary cut, have resorted to cut staff force already..... :banghead:
 

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Where's our resident Mark X owner?

Since you have Altis, I will forget the City and the Vios.

You've listed very good cars.

I feel the ES250 is definitely a good car, but ultimately it is the same K platform that the Camry uses, which makes it a luxury-fied Camry. I'm not sure if its more expensive than a Camry, but between this 2, I will lean towards the Camry Hybrid 2.5L because its a very nice car having sat in it, super spacious, and relatively speaking its spare parts would probably be cheaper than the Lexus parts.

Toyota has proven hybrids, so I wouldn't worry about its battery or anything like that. Plus it has an 8 year warranty.

My advice? Bring the wife to view ES250 and Camry Hybrid and see which is nicer to sit, drive, and the general feeling. If you're in this class of cars, forget about the others.

Alternatively, the X70, CX-5 are good choices in the same price segment. Again, I would sooner choose the X70 over the City/Vios, as there's more space, and better refinement.
X70 boot space very shallow, don't bother. Feels like can't put a lot of stuffs inside, had it for few roadtrips already. But if u like a hatch, the X70 is good, usable space unlike a sedan got some hidden pillar etc. If u want smaller, try X50 later this year.
 

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X70 boot space very shallow, don't bother. Feels like can't put a lot of stuffs inside, had it for few roadtrips already. But if u like a hatch, the X70 is good, usable space unlike a sedan got some hidden pillar etc. If u want smaller, try X50 later this year.
X50 got power and cheap road tax.......lol
 

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X70 boot space very shallow, don't bother. Feels like can't put a lot of stuffs inside, had it for few roadtrips already. But if u like a hatch, the X70 is good, usable space unlike a sedan got some hidden pillar etc. If u want smaller, try X50 later this year.
How does the X70 compares to the HR-V? Cause these are matched in price, and X70 is one segment above HR-V. I've not examined the X70 in detail.
 

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How does the X70 compares to the HR-V? Cause these are matched in price, and X70 is one segment above HR-V. I've not examined the X70 in detail.
HRV feels dated, very dated. X70 feels a class above altho the interior is abit not well put together, but looks good.
No need say the HRV drivetrain sucks. I haven't tried the CKD yet, I really wonder how the DCT feel. Reviews say its very much like the torque converter lol. The engine feels fantastic anyhow. Handling is ok, not boaty.
 

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How does the X70 compares to the HR-V? Cause these are matched in price, and X70 is one segment above HR-V. I've not examined the X70 in detail.
HRV and X70 are different classes man. HRV is more of CX3 and CHR comparison.
 

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HRV feels dated, very dated. X70 feels a class above altho the interior is abit not well put together, but looks good.
No need say the HRV drivetrain sucks. I haven't tried the CKD yet, I really wonder how the DCT feel. Reviews say its very much like the torque converter lol. The engine feels fantastic anyhow. Handling is ok, not boaty.
the Boot wise? I think x70 isn’t a bad choice given the price and entire package but you said the boot is small, so I wonder how it compare to its peers.

HRV with its CVT is ok to drive, as long as you don’t need power or overtake with it. At least I didn’t try to overtake anything when I drove one.
 

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the Boot wise? I think x70 isn’t a bad choice given the price and entire package but you said the boot is small, so I wonder how it compare to its peers.

HRV with its CVT is ok to drive, as long as you don’t need power or overtake with it. At least I didn’t try to overtake anything when I drove one.
Hahaha Im comparing to an Innova. Might be dumb. Coming from Innova, it was quite the difference. Its good enough for average person la
 

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Bro. ixeo compare price, for this price I can get this or this........lol
Did I misunderstand the english? He said "for its price", meaning X70 price is cheap so it's worth it's value. I'm comparing same category not price.

Jeez... why are we debating on the technicality of the english understanding?
 

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HRV and X70 are different classes man. HRV is more of CX3 and CHR comparison.
encik, that's why I stated they are matched in price, but X70 is a segment above.... lol.
you're kinda repeating what I said, worded differently.

slow day here...
 

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Did I misunderstand the english? He said "for its price", meaning X70 price is cheap so it's worth it's value. I'm comparing same category not price.

Jeez... why are we debating on the technicality of the english understanding?
Yeap izso being izso lol

"How does the X70 compares to the HR-V? Cause these are matched in price "
 
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@jerrysiow bro so what car did you buy in the end? Honestly, for the budget I'd take the Camry Hybrid 2.5L.. for the fuel savings and space.. or if you don't care about fuel, Proton X70.

City and Vios being in the B-segment, waste time.
 

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@jerrysiow bro so what car did you buy in the end? Honestly, for the budget I'd take the Camry Hybrid 2.5L.. for the fuel savings and space.. or if you don't care about fuel, Proton X70.

City and Vios being in the B-segment, waste time.
Sorry Ixeo sifu for the late reply. I've not make any decision from now and my family car is back from workshop after a month and travelling back to kampung every week. Furthermore, I'm still WFH, only weekend is driving car.

My parents keep asking me to get a re-con vellfire and ferry everyone :expressionless:.
 

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Sorry Ixeo sifu for the late reply. I've not make any decision from now and my family car is back from workshop after a month and travelling back to kampung every week. Furthermore, I'm still WFH, only weekend is driving car.

My parents keep asking me to get a re-con vellfire and ferry everyone :expressionless:.
I not sifu. I’m just a boat man. I like to motor boat.

Honestly speaking, a Vellfire is a good choice if you care about gaya and resale value. Otherwise, I think the Nissan Serena S-Hybrid is the better choice if you’re okay with a 7 seater that is smaller than Vellfire without a power boot. Or if you need something the same size, or in actual fact larger, the Kia Grand Carnival in diesel - but wait for the facelift to arrive.

Personally I’d go for the Serena, handless operation of the power door is super win. You don’t really need to use the boot. Plus power boot isn’t very usable if you park in basement parking with a wall or car behind. Serena has that split tailgate, pretty smart. I think GC Mah from auto buzz bought one. The current model has 6 airbags, and it’s cheaper than the Kia.

People will say Toyota is better reliability, but both Nissan and Kia, will be brand new cars with full manufacturer warranty. The Nissan being much cheaper as well.

I’ll say this, Vellfire is a more handsome bus. But if you’re driving it, it doesn’t matter your bus is handsome or not. Vellfire or Serena you’re still driving a bus. If you say you’re a boss with driver then confirm take Vellfire ZG with the captain seats.
 
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I not sifu. I’m just a boat man. I like to motor boat.

Honestly speaking, a Vellfire is a good choice if you care about gaya and resale value. Otherwise, I think the Nissan Serena S-Hybrid is the better choice if you’re okay with a 7 seater that is smaller than Vellfire without a power boot. Or if you need something the same size, or in actual fact larger, the Kia Grand Carnival in diesel - but wait for the facelift to arrive.

Personally I’d go for the Serena, handless operation of the power door is super win. You don’t really need to use the boot. Plus power boot isn’t very usable if you park in basement parking with a wall or car behind. Serena has that split tailgate, pretty smart. I think GC Mah from auto buzz bought one. The current model has 6 airbags, and it’s cheaper than the Kia.

People will say Toyota is better reliability, but both Nissan and Kia, will be brand new cars with full manufacturer warranty. The Nissan being much cheaper as well.

I’ll say this, Vellfire is a more handsome bus. But if you’re driving it, it doesn’t matter your bus is handsome or not. Vellfire or Serena you’re still driving a bus. If you say you’re a boss with driver then confirm take Vellfire ZG with the captain seats.
and Serena has lots of USB ports... enough for everyone. LoL... not mistake it already come with LCD display...
 

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I not sifu. I’m just a boat man. I like to motor boat.

Honestly speaking, a Vellfire is a good choice if you care about gaya and resale value. Otherwise, I think the Nissan Serena S-Hybrid is the better choice if you’re okay with a 7 seater that is smaller than Vellfire without a power boot. Or if you need something the same size, or in actual fact larger, the Kia Grand Carnival in diesel - but wait for the facelift to arrive.

Personally I’d go for the Serena, handless operation of the power door is super win. You don’t really need to use the boot. Plus power boot isn’t very usable if you park in basement parking with a wall or car behind. Serena has that split tailgate, pretty smart. I think GC Mah from auto buzz bought one. The current model has 6 airbags, and it’s cheaper than the Kia.

People will say Toyota is better reliability, but both Nissan and Kia, will be brand new cars with full manufacturer warranty. The Nissan being much cheaper as well.

I’ll say this, Vellfire is a more handsome bus. But if you’re driving it, it doesn’t matter your bus is handsome or not. Vellfire or Serena you’re still driving a bus. If you say you’re a boss with driver then confirm take Vellfire ZG with the captain seats.
Very good car very versatile. Just reaaaaaaally lack of power.
 

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I not sifu. I’m just a boat man. I like to motor boat.

Honestly speaking, a Vellfire is a good choice if you care about gaya and resale value. Otherwise, I think the Nissan Serena S-Hybrid is the better choice if you’re okay with a 7 seater that is smaller than Vellfire without a power boot. Or if you need something the same size, or in actual fact larger, the Kia Grand Carnival in diesel - but wait for the facelift to arrive.

Personally I’d go for the Serena, handless operation of the power door is super win. You don’t really need to use the boot. Plus power boot isn’t very usable if you park in basement parking with a wall or car behind. Serena has that split tailgate, pretty smart. I think GC Mah from auto buzz bought one. The current model has 6 airbags, and it’s cheaper than the Kia.

People will say Toyota is better reliability, but both Nissan and Kia, will be brand new cars with full manufacturer warranty. The Nissan being much cheaper as well.

I’ll say this, Vellfire is a more handsome bus. But if you’re driving it, it doesn’t matter your bus is handsome or not. Vellfire or Serena you’re still driving a bus. If you say you’re a boss with driver then confirm take Vellfire ZG with the captain seats.
Alright, will have a look and compare.
 
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Hi all, can't believe this thread has been a year. I gonna get my cx-8 soon and I will post my owner experience and some pictures :)
 
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