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I think nobody answered this one. There are 2 manufacturers of this type of inlet that I know of. Tryforce (.jp) which makes it in carbon and fiberdynamix (.de) which offers it as in the picture.

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Hi l2s_turbo,

Im very interested in the brake upgrades you mentioned. Can you give some more details on what you did? From which lexus did the front brakes come? How are the adapted to fit the zc21s? Also, did you manage to do a brake disc conversion at the rear? Looking forward to some more info on this too. Many thanks in advance!
As bro vyrujz shared that's my front brakes, the rear brakes have not done yet.. will do together with the BOT project. My mechanic suggests using either Toyota brakes or Honda brakes.. will see about it then. :burnout:
 

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How is the price like? Downside of DK tuning is that he is located in Penang :( I still got few more wear and tear things to fix - engine mounts, lower arms, etc... before i can go for reflash.

Do share with us the results ya! ;):adore:

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How is ur brake feeling now bro? Now u have better braking, next up is the performance rite? :biggrin:

Guys, here are the results after reflashing ECU for swift. Got it done last week and was amazed with the results after running in with OBD2 programme for my ECU after 150km running the engine. Before this my AVG was 10.4 km/l although running in with customized grounding cables,fuel injector cleaner.
AS observed today the reading shot up to 11.6km/l. Will monitor the fuel consumption till it reaches E level and report in the mileage.
 
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Hi guys, just found this thread. I'm driving a zc21 too and I came across an item which mentioned by l2s_turbo, Throttle controller (specially mod for cable usage). Bro, do you mind to share with me how and where you get that done? Thanks!
 
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Hi guys, just found this thread. I'm driving a zc21 too and I came across an item which mentioned by l2s_turbo, Throttle controller (specially mod for cable usage). Bro, do you mind to share with me how and where you get that done? Thanks!
Woah~ this is something i wish to know... as mine is drive by cable type..
 

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Hi guys, just found this thread. I'm driving a zc21 too and I came across an item which mentioned by l2s_turbo, Throttle controller (specially mod for cable usage). Bro, do you mind to share with me how and where you get that done? Thanks!
I bought it in JB. The boss install for me de...

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Guys, here are the results after reflashing ECU for swift. Got it done last week and was amazed with the results after running in with OBD2 programme for my ECU after 150km running the engine. Before this my AVG was 10.4 km/l although running in with customized grounding cables,fuel injector cleaner.
AS observed today the reading shot up to 11.6km/l. Will monitor the fuel consumption till it reaches E level and report in the mileage.
Bro, how much is the reflash cost? After reflashing still can add piggy back? Can the reflashing suit BOT or Supercharge? :adore:
 

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Thanks l2s_turbo. Do you have the picture of the controller and perhaps a link/name of the seller/shop?
I'm using i-concept throttle controller. Shop name is TT Motorsport, look for Joseph. Say Richard intro de.. he will give you good price :burnout:
 

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Hi All Sifus here,

Really need help in the rims & wheel department. I am considering on changing my stock rims to either 15"x6/7/8j or 16"x6/7/8j but I m not sure which tyre profile and offset to use as the original is +45, and I find it not as easy a task as I thought or maybe I m looking at the wrong places. Any sifus here can recommend any good place for a swift rims?

Been using swift as my daily runabout for slightly more than 1 yr and I been loving it since, even my weekend car been eating dust as I get to park nearly everywhere in KL with the swift :wink: but I m considering getting a turbo within a couple of months..still in the midst of brain washing wifey

Appreciate all the help and thanks in advance :driver:
 

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Hi All Sifus here,

Really need help in the rims & wheel department. I am considering on changing my stock rims to either 15"x6/7/8j or 16"x6/7/8j but I m not sure which tyre profile and offset to use as the original is +45, and I find it not as easy a task as I thought or maybe I m looking at the wrong places. Any sifus here can recommend any good place for a swift rims?

Been using swift as my daily runabout for slightly more than 1 yr and I been loving it since, even my weekend car been eating dust as I get to park nearly everywhere in KL with the swift :wink: but I m considering getting a turbo within a couple of months..still in the midst of brain washing wifey

Appreciate all the help and thanks in advance :driver:
I'm on 16 x 7jj, offset +42. 205/45/16. tyres with no rubbing. Unless you wanna play hellaflush style,stanced style. Then i suggest you go for 16 x 8jj tyres 205/45/16 or even if you dare use 195/50/16 and please remember to roll you fender to avoid rubbing. If 15" you choose 15 x 7/8 also can, offset find those +35 would be sick... Tyres can be 195 or even 165 on 7jj. :driver:
 

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I'm on 16 x 7jj, offset +42. 205/45/16. tyres with no rubbing. Unless you wanna play hellaflush style,stanced style. Then i suggest you go for 16 x 8jj tyres 205/45/16 or even if you dare use 195/50/16 and please remember to roll you fender to avoid rubbing. If 15" you choose 15 x 7/8 also can, offset find those +35 would be sick... Tyres can be 195 or even 165 on 7jj. :driver:

Thx bro :proud:, mind if I ask u for a pic of ur rims? coz wanna see if 205/45/16 be too small compare to the stock ie. would the gap be bigger since 45 profile is way thinner thn the ori 60.

I think 15" x 7/8j with +35 would be a good choice from your recommendation :biggrin::driver:
 

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A bit thin la.. hehe.. :driver:
 

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Thx so much bro :adore:

Wah nice rims and nice brakes too :love:. Hows the ride though? Crashy?
Thanks, ride much more comfy because of the tyres are softer. But if you change to 50series will be more comfy. But do take note if you take hard corners the tyre may flex a bit. This is why i stick to 45series. And i pump the air 220psi instead of 200psi.. Else you may look at RE002 too.. it's also not bad.. or RE11. :biggrin:
 

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Thanks, ride much more comfy because of the tyres are softer. But if you change to 50series will be more comfy. But do take note if you take hard corners the tyre may flex a bit. This is why i stick to 45series. And i pump the air 220psi instead of 200psi.. Else you may look at RE002 too.. it's also not bad.. or RE11. :biggrin:
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I am using 16x7 offset +42 rims as well. I am currently using 205/50 R16 tires. The fender gap is lesser (looks nicer). As per bro l2s_turbo, tyre may flex during hard corner... I am using KUMHO hard compound tires.... not really dat comfy even with 190psi front and back... next will change to Nexen and try :p
 

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Hi,

I am using 16x7 offset +42 rims as well. I am currently using 205/50 R16 tires. The fender gap is lesser (looks nicer). As per bro l2s_turbo, tyre may flex during hard corner... I am using KUMHO hard compound tires.... not really dat comfy even with 190psi front and back... next will change to Nexen and try :p
Will you ride be bit heavier when on 50series? But mine can feel the road feedback once i change from 195/50/16 to 205/45/16.
 

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Will you ride be bit heavier when on 50series? But mine can feel the road feedback once i change from 195/50/16 to 205/45/16.[/QUOTE

not much difference after change rims and tyres... mebbe the lightweight rim offset the bigger and wider tyre.. original wheel and tyre size is 16 x 6 offset +50 with 195/50 R16 tyre..
 

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Got mine yesterday...15x7j, offset no idea as the guy jz say about 30 something :stupid: , anyway using 195/55 tyres i find the handling not as good as stock :s: , as what u guys said the tyre kinda goyang/flex during hard cornering maybe 205/55 would be a better option....
 

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Got mine yesterday...15x7j, offset no idea as the guy jz say about 30 something :stupid: , anyway using 195/55 tyres i find the handling not as good as stock :s: , as what u guys said the tyre kinda goyang/flex during hard cornering maybe 205/55 would be a better option....
How much is your tyre PSI? What brand and model you are using? Some have soft wall tyres some have hard wall tyres..:driver:
 

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How much is your tyre PSI? What brand and model you are using? Some have soft wall tyres some have hard wall tyres..:driver:
Using Bridgestone Turanza...ehh not sure wht is the PSI as the tyre guys jz pump it for me, didnt cross my mind to ask him :dong:
 

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Some of the useful upgrades done.. no need too many bars.. like one of the Bro mentioned in Swift Club SG.. Just a set of good coilover and these for streets is sufficient enough.. unless you are trackie...









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Great ATF to share...



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Using Bridgestone Turanza...ehh not sure wht is the PSI as the tyre guys jz pump it for me, didnt cross my mind to ask him :dong:
Mine is Michellin PS3.. due to the soft sidewall compounds.. i pump it to 220Psi.. slightly stiffer but at least i do hard cornering it doesn't flex that much.. and the compound made in Germany vs Thailand is different.. it's softer... :biggrin:
 

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hi bro, mind sharing whr u get those done..looks great :love:. Does it take long to get it done and also does it really work? As u knw swift loading space is aldy at the bare minimum, was thinking if there is other option thn the one u have in the booty.:driver:
 

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hi bro, mind sharing whr u get those done..looks great :love:. Does it take long to get it done and also does it really work? As u knw swift loading space is aldy at the bare minimum, was thinking if there is other option thn the one u have in the booty.:driver:
Done it in jb. The bars are off the shelves ones.. only need to install.. the bar is not really a hindrance la it sits just behind the car seat.. still better than those who put woofer inside.. mine put under seat.. so no prob.. :biggrin:
 

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With the new found flex on my new tyre n rim setup, i manage to do a slight drift on a sharp downward turn near klcc...was doin abt 70km/h, funny that this dont happen whn i was on the skinnier stock. Fun maybe, but jz hope it dont happen whn i least expect it to. :burnout:
 

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With the new found flex on my new tyre n rim setup, i manage to do a slight drift on a sharp downward turn near klcc...was doin abt 70km/h, funny that this dont happen whn i was on the skinnier stock. Fun maybe, but jz hope it dont happen whn i least expect it to. :burnout:
You can pump your tyre air harder bro.. it might help a bit.:driver:
 

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I bought it in JB. The boss install for me de...

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Bro, how much is the reflash cost? After reflashing still can add piggy back? Can the reflashing suit BOT or Supercharge? :adore:
Hey bro,

Monitored as of today after 8full tanks. Fuel Consumption doesnt seem to calibrate the proper reading as my AVG is at 10.2-10.3 as of today. OBD2 programming doesnt seem to work in a long run. I think the best option is to seek DKTUNING tuners to solve this issue. Im yet to get a quotation from DYLAN from DK Tuning.
 

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Hey bro,

Monitored as of today after 8full tanks. Fuel Consumption doesnt seem to calibrate the proper reading as my AVG is at 10.2-10.3 as of today. OBD2 programming doesnt seem to work in a long run. I think the best option is to seek DKTUNING tuners to solve this issue. Im yet to get a quotation from DYLAN from DK Tuning.
You you might need to reset the AVG meter?
 

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According to the manual, to reset the average MPG display you should 1- have the display showing "AVG" and 2- hold reset button for 2 seconds until ---.- is displayed. You have to drive it after resetting to get a new avg, reset and turn off will revert to old figure.
 

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It's been a few weeks now with my new tyres/rim setup, so far the car starts to pull to the left hand side (maybe alignment out, will chck later) however what worries me is there is some rubbing sound coming from the left wall but I can't find the culprit, I hv check if the tyres r rubbing against the fender but it's not...I wonder if some sifu here got any feedback for me or ppl who use bigger wheels like 17" rims have any probs?

another question, anyone try the new Swift Sport? I have seen many good feedback online about it.:adore:
 

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Swift 1.5 BOT owner here
Anyone know what piston and conrod we can use for higher boost.
Now not dare yet to boost higher.
Last I check the conrod and piston spec for swift

Piston Bore = 78mm
Piston Pin = 20mm (press/semi floating???)

Conrod = CTC 138mm
Big End = 45mm
Small End = 20mm

Conrod same as M16A ?? except for M16A uses dif crankshaft = interchangeable with M15A too stroke higher???

Im looking at few honda mitsu or ca18 mazda piston and perhaps m16a forged or normal conrod too boost higher.if anyone can suggest piston and conrod from other car to keep the cost down would be good:adore:
 

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Ymloo whats your rims and tires spec? I've tried many rims.. Only once rubbed the wall.. 245/40/17 offset 42

whoa bro, 245 on a swift is fattt...:adore:

mine is 195/55/15 offset maybe 30ish+
 

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Anyone has a good recommendation for exhaust full system from the header to the exhaust tip?

Im running on an entirely stock exhaust system. Im looking to improve my torque at low end range and go get a bass sound during idling and a slight sharp sound at high revs.

I was quoted from a shop in ss2 that includes (muffler and HKS exhaust tip 3 inch for 1.2K, downpipe standard)

Below is a link i found. Not sure whether SUPERCIRCUIT brand is good or not.
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.257663857578788.73387.254129501265557&type=3
 

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Swift 1.5 BOT owner here
Anyone know what piston and conrod we can use for higher boost.
Now not dare yet to boost higher.
Last I check the conrod and piston spec for swift

Piston Bore = 78mm
Piston Pin = 20mm (press/semi floating???)

Conrod = CTC 138mm
Big End = 45mm
Small End = 20mm

Conrod same as M16A ?? except for M16A uses dif crankshaft = interchangeable with M15A too stroke higher???

Im looking at few honda mitsu or ca18 mazda piston and perhaps m16a forged or normal conrod too boost higher.if anyone can suggest piston and conrod from other car to keep the cost down would be good:adore:
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Bro you mod your BOT in jb? Mind sharing where you done it? I'm planning one soon.. :listen:

Anyone has a good recommendation for exhaust full system from the header to the exhaust tip?

Im running on an entirely stock exhaust system. Im looking to improve my torque at low end range and go get a bass sound during idling and a slight sharp sound at high revs.

I was quoted from a shop in ss2 that includes (muffler and HKS exhaust tip 3 inch for 1.2K, downpipe standard)

Below is a link i found. Not sure whether SUPERCIRCUIT brand is good or not.
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.257663857578788.73387.254129501265557&type=3
Your ride is auto or manual bro?
 

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Done it at Naz Automotive somewhere in Skudai

Very neat workmanship.
Im using TD04L chra with smaller ar for turbin for better spool.
I also use back the water cool line for reliability.most other workshop cut short by not installing the water line

Now 0.6 only.plan to boost higher hence the enquiry on forged internal.
I check with redline gti forum.they reccomend get the sss halfcut and get forged internal.

Still thinking though.



You can try this SWIFT CLUB SG :: Log in
Bro you mod your BOT in jb? Mind sharing where you done it? I'm planning one soon.. :listen:



Your ride is auto or manual bro?
 
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Done it at Naz Automotive somewhere in Skudai

Very neat workmanship.
Im using TD04L chra with smaller ar for turbin for better spool.
I also use back the water cool line for reliability.most other workshop cut short by not installing the water line

Now 0.6 only.plan to boost higher hence the enquiry on forged internal.
I check with redline gti forum.they reccomend get the sss halfcut and get forged internal.

Still thinking though.
Nice.. neat work there.. i had bought a turbo kit, but still at home have not send to fix yet.. so far any problem on your setup? Any over heat issue? What's the hp and torque now? You are on manual or auto gb? Pardon me for asking so many questions.. hard to see a swift mod in jb so far.. last time saw one was the petronas sticker swift.. mind pm me your contact? We can meet up :listen: and discuss more on our swift if you dun mind :driver:
 
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Done it at Naz Automotive somewhere in Skudai

Very neat workmanship.
Im using TD04L chra with smaller ar for turbin for better spool.
I also use back the water cool line for reliability.most other workshop cut short by not installing the water line

Now 0.6 only.plan to boost higher hence the enquiry on forged internal.
I check with redline gti forum.they reccomend get the sss halfcut and get forged internal.

Still thinking though.
Hi sidi.. I hv account here too hehe..
Good thing u use the water line!

I've posted a link at your thread.. It's an old thread i made, there's comparison between zc21s and zc31s piston..i'll post it here..

http://redlinegti.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=47695


I think the forged bw conrod is a good deal, mated with zc31 piston..
What u got to worry is the plastic intake manifold..

U must use water temp to monitor the engine temprature.. I did many things to achieve what i think is the ideal temp for my zc21s..

Here's my build thread
http://ssoc.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?2013-ID-Turbo-ZC21S-Project

Here are some videos
Dyno and race..

[video=youtube;YjOZIATv4bE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjOZIATv4bE&feature=youtu.be[/video]


[video=youtube_share;BVLsR9T-AdE]http://youtu.be/BVLsR9T-AdE[/video]
 
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You can whatsapps me at 0197762985.
So far havent really boosted kaw2 yet.No problem yet on overheat, idling or aircon. Im using auto gb btw.
Im going to fine tuning the fuel soon.maybe I can share more detail on whatsapps.
Im using atf cooler but havent get oil cooler yet.

Anyway Naz Automotive is located at Pulai Perdana besides sticker shop.I have been with this mechanic for past 5 years and satisfied with all the detail and neat work.Price wise much better than other cutthroat shop in JB.The petronas swift very popular in JB.last I heard it pack 160whp under the hood with na power.:driver:


Nice.. neat work there.. i had bought a turbo kit, but still at home have not send to fix yet.. so far any problem on your setup? Any over heat issue? What's the hp and torque now? You are on manual or auto gb? Pardon me for asking so many questions.. hard to see a swift mod in jb so far.. last time saw one was the petronas sticker swift.. mind pm me your contact? We can meet up :listen: and discuss more on our swift if you dun mind :driver:
 

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Anyone has a good recommendation for exhaust full system from the header to the exhaust tip?

Im running on an entirely stock exhaust system. Im looking to improve my torque at low end range and go get a bass sound during idling and a slight sharp sound at high revs.

I was quoted from a shop in ss2 that includes (muffler and HKS exhaust tip 3 inch for 1.2K, downpipe standard)

Below is a link i found. Not sure whether SUPERCIRCUIT brand is good or not.
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.257663857578788.73387.254129501265557&type=3
my fren myvi install at supercircuit...the way they weld feel good and solid and quality wise ady few month no complain from him..if u do full system prepare ur wallet XD...for me the price is really crazy after comparing myvi 1.5 price since the size is similar..wonder why so much diferent
 

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Guys,

SSS owners need your favour from you guys to check your front windshield markings as i would like to make a comparison of different markings for our swifters.(attachment below)

Any comparison for LAMISAFE & LAMILEX? Any difference of the CKD/CBU models for SS only? Need to check for SSS as well.
 

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You can whatsapps me at 0197762985.
So far havent really boosted kaw2 yet.No problem yet on overheat, idling or aircon. Im using auto gb btw.
Im going to fine tuning the fuel soon.maybe I can share more detail on whatsapps.
Im using atf cooler but havent get oil cooler yet.

Anyway Naz Automotive is located at Pulai Perdana besides sticker shop.I have been with this mechanic for past 5 years and satisfied with all the detail and neat work.Price wise much better than other cutthroat shop in JB.The petronas swift very popular in JB.last I heard it pack 160whp under the hood with na power.:driver:
I'm using atf cooler too, how much boost are you running currently? Did you experience any slippage on your auto gear? Did you install fuel regulator which requires to make a fuel return line?
 

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Now running 0.6 bar, quite high due to still on stock compression and piston. Plan to lower a bit the boost while waiting for forged internal.
I'm using td04l with smaller exhaust ar so boost start spooling at 2k and full boost by 3k.
Regarding the auto gearbox slippage I try to feel the initial bite by half throttle , once fully bite than only full throttle. I once try full throttle from standstill and low rpm, the gearbox grip and slip are noticeable. The torque delivery were high and sudden not like when NA.

Not using fuel regulator cause using Toyota 330cc injectors, if use fuel regulator should be better cause have fuel return line and pressure are more stable.

Now running around 175hp and 197Nm torque on dastek dyno with stock exhaust box and piping. That should translate to 145whp dynojet, nothing to roar about but cruising at highway are fun now and easily outmeter
Looking into 2" muffler and perhaps manual gearbox = :driver:

I'm using atf cooler too, how much boost are you running currently? Did you experience any slippage on your auto gear? Did you install fuel regulator which requires to make a fuel return line?
 
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l2s_turbo

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Now running 0.6 bar, quite high due to still on stock compression and piston. Plan to lower a bit the boost while waiting for forged internal.
I'm using td04l with smaller exhaust ar so boost start spooling at 2k and full boost by 3k.
Regarding the auto gearbox slippage I try to feel the initial bite by half throttle , once fully bite than only full throttle. I once try full throttle from standstill and low rpm, the gearbox grip and slip are noticeable. The torque delivery were high and sudden not like when NA.

Not using fuel regulator cause using Toyota 330cc injectors, if use fuel regulator should be better cause have fuel return line and pressure are more stable.

Now running around 175hp and 197Nm torque on dastek dyno with stock exhaust box and piping. That should translate to 145whp dynojet, nothing to roar about but cruising at highway are fun now and easily outmeter
Looking into 2" muffler and perhaps manual gearbox = :driver:
It's good enough to outrun many cars lo.. :rolleyes:
 

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Guys, is it advisable to either use engine oil grade 0w-20/ 0w-30 for our swift 1.5 auto or to stick with 5W-30 grade? I was told that upon cold start, using 0W-30 is good as engine oil will be hot and does not consume that much fuel.

is this true?