Starting a new journey. Tough decision.

6UE5t

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Hi, Guys. Planning to get a used car for fun drive. I love old honda ( i dont have much money for the newer one ), it is easy to maintain, cheap to take care and i prefer the older design.

Planned to get something lighter and faster beside my daily driven euro r. In my mind, i am thinking of :
- civic eg 2doors
- civic ek 2doors
- crz ( the hybrid )
- jazz ( ge or gk )
- dc5

It can carries either b16, b18 or even k20.
Price range rm60000
What do u guys think?

Honda forever...classic way better
Out of those I'd get the DC5 but it's not lighweight compared to the rest and for you I'd think rather redundant if you already have a CL7. And for around 60k, I'd rather get a real Evo 5/6 which is about the same body size and weight but way faster. Lol

EG and EK are great but IMHO too overpriced. If have to choose between them, I'd get the EG coz looks nicer and not as rare so at least easier to get parts.

CRZ is a hybrid and slow, Jazz even slower. Both are out of context if you want faster cars! Unless you want to dump tons of money in it along with the higher headache during the journey.

So in summary, none seems the right choice! Lol. Or maybe an EF as suggested by Izso is better, if you still must have a Honda.
 

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hmm after thinking, theres one more option out there thats easyish to maintain and real nice to toss around....

the mrs. not really fast in the straights and its tiny... but round the bends, its a light mid engined rwd toy.
 
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hmm after thinking, theres one more option out there thats easyish to maintain and real nice to toss around....

the mrs. not really fast in the straights and its tiny... but round the bends, its a light mid engined rwd toy.
But not a Honda. If outside Honda then also can consider Swift Sport manual. Or Lancer CB with 4G93T.
 
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Hi, Guys. Planning to get a used car for fun drive. I love old honda ( i dont have much money for the newer one ), it is easy to maintain, cheap to take care and i prefer the older design.

Planned to get something lighter and faster beside my daily driven euro r. In my mind, i am thinking of :
- civic eg 2doors
- civic ek 2doors
- crz ( the hybrid )
- jazz ( ge or gk )
- dc5

It can carries either b16, b18 or even k20.
Price range rm60000
What do u guys think?

Honda forever...classic way better
Agree about your choice with Honda as the parts are berlambak and also many cap Ayam parts if you on a budget
Lets talk about engine and 60K budget

I would recommend a b18 OR K20, the b16 is lacking torque and not much power unless you wanna go 10krpm to squeeze 200whp
for b18 you have choices like EG, or EK or EF or DC2 if you dont mind older cars or even a CRX for the ultimate light weight

Jazz, CRZ, you can forget bout it and DC5 60k can get u the type S only which is rubbish and will regret later.

I would suggest before you decide, do you want hi-rev or hi-torque this would determine your path of engine choices for B18 or k20.
And also when you mention fast you shooting for top speed OR Acc/response
B18 would have limitations and K20 more potential.

my EF spec
B18C type r
-cam type b16b type r
-skunk2 valve spring
-skunk2 retainer
-skunk2 intake
-skunk2 fuel rail
-skunk2 gear gear lever
-skunk2 lower arm (blkg)
-spoon strut bar
-spoon caliper
-ogura super single
-lsd type r
-s90 trottle body
-HAsport engine mounting
-MSD coil
-Ati pully
-gear box close ratio ATS gear set
1,3,4,5 final 4.4
gear 1 - 3.077
gear 2 - 2.105 (std)
gear 3 - 1.652
gear 4 - 1.307
gear 5 - 1.033
final drive 4.4
lsd type r

This spec should set you around 30k~40kish

Fun car is not comfortable and comfortable is no fun.
My EF is quite brutal with the close ratio and all the solid suspension setup
 

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I see vtec opens at around 5500, the graph become steep suddenly. 210 whp is already a lot, plus yours is a heavy car so 7+ seconds already quite decent.
Perhaps your project car should be a b16 turbo in a civic eg. Engine is quite solid and many are still around in case you blow it during boost lol.
I would not recommend to boost a B-serie its low end torque already super laggy and add turbo summore. the power will be like on-off liao. and turbo setup would cost like 20k-ish.

Previously i was contemplating on turbo or supercharged my s2k. older B,H,F serie are not good for turbo esp the open block liner is $hite.
 

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EG or EK... everyday sleep worried. park worried. the only time not worried is driving it.. lol.
CR-Z if you drop a K20 inside.. FUIYOH. Jazz er.. nope.

I don't know man. I don't want to worry. My friend got EK4 donkey years ago, wake up Recaro from EK9 gone. Not too long later, wheels gone... he everyday worried don't know when the car gone.

Between the EG, EK or DC5.. I'll take the EG.

Does it have to be Honda? Can I interest you in a Lotus Elise instead? Someone selling a Mk1 for RM75k @ Mudah. Since you have a sensible EuroR... why not just go bonkers.
 
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Agree about your choice with Honda as the parts are berlambak and also many cap Ayam parts if you on a budget
Lets talk about engine and 60K budget

I would recommend a b18 OR K20, the b16 is lacking torque and not much power unless you wanna go 10krpm to squeeze 200whp
for b18 you have choices like EG, or EK or EF or DC2 if you dont mind older cars or even a CRX for the ultimate light weight

Jazz, CRZ, you can forget bout it and DC5 60k can get u the type S only which is rubbish and will regret later.

I would suggest before you decide, do you want hi-rev or hi-torque this would determine your path of engine choices for B18 or k20.
And also when you mention fast you shooting for top speed OR Acc/response
B18 would have limitations and K20 more potential.

my EF spec
B18C type r
-cam type b16b type r
-skunk2 valve spring
-skunk2 retainer
-skunk2 intake
-skunk2 fuel rail
-skunk2 gear gear lever
-skunk2 lower arm (blkg)
-spoon strut bar
-spoon caliper
-ogura super single
-lsd type r
-s90 trottle body
-HAsport engine mounting
-MSD coil
-Ati pully
-gear box close ratio ATS gear set
1,3,4,5 final 4.4
gear 1 - 3.077
gear 2 - 2.105 (std)
gear 3 - 1.652
gear 4 - 1.307
gear 5 - 1.033
final drive 4.4
lsd type r

This spec should set you around 30k~40kish

Fun car is not comfortable and comfortable is no fun.
My EF is quite brutal with the close ratio and all the solid suspension setup
When u back to penang?
 

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EG or EK... everyday sleep worried. park worried. the only time not worried is driving it.. lol.
CR-Z if you drop a K20 inside.. FUIYOH. Jazz er.. nope.

I don't know man. I don't want to worry. My friend got EK4 donkey years ago, wake up Recaro from EK9 gone. Not too long later, wheels gone... he everyday worried don't know when the car gone.

Between the EG, EK or DC5.. I'll take the EG.

Does it have to be Honda? Can I interest you in a Lotus Elise instead? Someone selling a Mk1 for RM75k @ Mudah. Since you have a sensible EuroR... why not just go bonkers.

Full Elise for 75... But if ur the kind that doesn't like rattling, you will hate the car.... Then again I guess ts won't have issues since he's considering older civics in the first place. (The tattles in a lotus is a whole different level tho)
 

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EG or EK... everyday sleep worried. park worried. the only time not worried is driving it.. lol.
CR-Z if you drop a K20 inside.. FUIYOH. Jazz er.. nope.

I don't know man. I don't want to worry. My friend got EK4 donkey years ago, wake up Recaro from EK9 gone. Not too long later, wheels gone... he everyday worried don't know when the car gone.

Between the EG, EK or DC5.. I'll take the EG.

Does it have to be Honda? Can I interest you in a Lotus Elise instead? Someone selling a Mk1 for RM75k @ Mudah. Since you have a sensible EuroR... why not just go bonkers.
Owners should be more worried when driving hot cars as people can still hijack.
Remember the guy whom got his thumb cut off by car thief as his car uses aftermarket thumb print sec sys?

That kinda kills off finger print based alarm system in My.

BTW, the worst question a friend can ask owner of a precious ride while chatting during TT session is 'mana kereta/moto kau, tak nampak pun?'.
 

lsm1991

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Owners should be more worried when driving hot cars as people can still hijack.
Remember the guy whom got his thumb cut off by car thief as his car uses aftermarket thumb print sec sys?

That kinda kills off finger print based alarm system in My.

BTW, the worst question a friend can ask owner of a precious ride while chatting during TT session is 'mana kereta/moto kau, tak nampak pun?'.
why is that the worst question?
 

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Owners should be more worried when driving hot cars as people can still hijack.
Remember the guy whom got his thumb cut off by car thief as his car uses aftermarket thumb print sec sys?

That kinda kills off finger print based alarm system in My.

BTW, the worst question a friend can ask owner of a precious ride while chatting during TT session is 'mana kereta/moto kau, tak nampak pun?'.
Use Clifford Blackjax. Anti-hijack.
 

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Use Clifford Blackjax. Anti-hijack.
The best thing ever made from Clifford is the wireless immobilizer. They don't make that anymore which is a shame.