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So guys, i've this assignment to compile a list of reasons why car owners would prefer a sedan over an SUV as their daily drivers. After all we're mostly car enthusiasts here, i've listed them in rough categories so if you like, please contribute your reason(s) no matter how weird or insignificant they are,

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Drive:
  • Handles better generally
  • Quicker, more light footed
  • Agile in the city
  • Less intimidating to drive
  • Planted, more stable
  • Better NVH, less body shake?
  • Spirited weekend drives
  • Better cockpit ergonomics?
Practicality:
  • Parks easier
  • Smaller footprint
  • Metal boot for safer storage
  • Cheaper to maintain
  • Visually more appealing?
  • Younger, more relevant socially?
Efficiency:
  • Lighter, more fuel efficient
  • Less cargo space wastage therefore more efficient?
  • More aerodynamic for sure
  • Environmentally friendlier?
  • No extra bulk to manage
 

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In a sedan you're less of a prick if you're in the fast lane and some fast looking Merc is getting annoyed behind you thinking you're road hogging cuz they can't see past your huge SUV height and body - in a sedan they can see past your car to see heavy traffic or some other dumb prick hogging the road and you're just a victim like that fast Merc.
 

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For ladies, some actually prefer SUV because of the height, easier for them to see and drive....
 

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SUV =
Slow Ugly Vehicle
Super Unstable Vehicle
Shitty Undriveable Vehicle
Sucky Uncool Vehicle

I can keep going on and on and on with this.
 

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Ben Casey on quora:

SUVs are abominations. They are expensive, costly to insure, costly to fuel, they are slow, can’t turn, are less safe.. BUT:

They carry about as much cargo as a small wagon.

They are like cars in that they move people, they are unlike cars in that they do nothing well.

Indeed, the reason why they are popular are because:

Fat asses can get in and out of them easier.

Anyway, here in the US, we drive a lot. Because of this, some of us, very few, love cars. And those that love cars, love driving, hate SUVs because they’re stupid. And SUVs are the number one reason why so many regulations will impact car owners.

People aren’t worried about CO2 emissions from Civics, or even Porsches. They’re worried about the sheer ostentatiousness of accelerating 4500 pounds to 75 mph over and over so a fat ass who hates driving is comfy. Or a woman, women buy SUVs at a rate equal to men who look at porn.

Anyway. Not sure if I answered your question, but I feel better ;-) Time for a smoke.
 

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Ben Casey on quora:

SUVs are abominations. They are expensive, costly to insure, costly to fuel, they are slow, can’t turn, are less safe.. BUT:

They carry about as much cargo as a small wagon.

They are like cars in that they move people, they are unlike cars in that they do nothing well.

Indeed, the reason why they are popular are because:

Fat asses can get in and out of them easier.

Anyway, here in the US, we drive a lot. Because of this, some of us, very few, love cars. And those that love cars, love driving, hate SUVs because they’re stupid. And SUVs are the number one reason why so many regulations will impact car owners.

People aren’t worried about CO2 emissions from Civics, or even Porsches. They’re worried about the sheer ostentatiousness of accelerating 4500 pounds to 75 mph over and over so a fat ass who hates driving is comfy. Or a woman, women buy SUVs at a rate equal to men who look at porn.

Anyway. Not sure if I answered your question, but I feel better ;-) Time for a smoke.
Gold. So much truth.
 
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Ben Casey on quora:

SUVs are abominations. They are expensive, costly to insure, costly to fuel, they are slow, can’t turn, are less safe.. BUT:

They carry about as much cargo as a small wagon.

They are like cars in that they move people, they are unlike cars in that they do nothing well.

Indeed, the reason why they are popular are because:

Fat asses can get in and out of them easier.


Anyway, here in the US, we drive a lot. Because of this, some of us, very few, love cars. And those that love cars, love driving, hate SUVs because they’re stupid. And SUVs are the number one reason why so many regulations will impact car owners.

People aren’t worried about CO2 emissions from Civics, or even Porsches. They’re worried about the sheer ostentatiousness of accelerating 4500 pounds to 75 mph over and over so a fat ass who hates driving is comfy. Or a woman, women buy SUVs at a rate equal to men who look at porn.

Anyway. Not sure if I answered your question, but I feel better ;-) Time for a smoke.
ixeo on ZTH:

SUVs aren't costly to insure - in Malaysia we go by the value of the car and class, not the type of vehicle
Aren't really costly to fuel relative to the same CC sedan
They aren't slow, boy have you seen a XC90 T8 go?

Personally, I prefer wagon over SUV. That being said in Malaysia I will choose a SUV for a family car because of the photos I posted, and the fact that getting in/out of a SUV is easier.
 
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The only SUV that I remotely consider to buy is the Airtrek Turbo because it's basically a detuned Evo SUV. Has been trying to tease and persuade the home minister to trade the Mark X with it but no success coz it's too old!
 

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When we are younger all that matter is hp, when we are older we want more torque?

For me, normal daily driving is defnitely a sedan.
Long distance, also a sedan.

I dont mind using an SUV daily, only if they can provide similar fc as a sedan can give. That is petrol to petrol comparison.
 

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I don't like using big, heavy, tall cars. Feel like I am going to topple over when cornering, handling feels sluggish and no fun. Plus I don't like the look of tall cars.
 

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My current daily - 4 door sedan, 250hp/300Nm, under 1500kg.
My 'planned' new daily - 4 door sedan, 350HP/500Nm, under 1700KG.
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I don't like using big, heavy, tall cars. Feel like I am going to topple over when cornering, handling feels sluggish and no fun. Plus I don't like the look of tall cars.
Easier to get adrenaline rush as body roll is earlier and more obvious.
 

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I don't like using big, heavy, tall cars. Feel like I am going to topple over when cornering, handling feels sluggish and no fun. Plus I don't like the look of tall cars.
Flood is a major issue if you’re driving in the city centre. Plus can’t corner that fast cause usually jam anyway.

I’m thinking a SUV with level 2 autonomous driving and a weekend car would be the ideal practical combo. So weekdays let the SUV jam itself to work. Weekend I drive my toy.
 

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Flood is a major issue if you’re driving in the city centre. Plus can’t corner that fast cause usually jam anyway.

I’m thinking a SUV with level 2 autonomous driving and a weekend car would be the ideal practical combo. So weekdays let the SUV jam itself to work. Weekend I drive my toy.
Wow, this is kelas bangsawan adee.
 
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Easier to get adrenaline rush as body roll is earlier and more obvious.
Hahaha that's adrenaline of a different kind!

Flood is a major issue if you’re driving in the city centre. Plus can’t corner that fast cause usually jam anyway.

I’m thinking a SUV with level 2 autonomous driving and a weekend car would be the ideal practical combo. So weekdays let the SUV jam itself to work. Weekend I drive my toy.
I never have issues with flooding so it's not a concern for me. Life is too short to drive boring cars for 5 days of the week just because scared of flooding.
 
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Hahaha that's adrenaline of a different kind!


I never have issues with flooding so it's not a concern for me. Life is too short to drive boring cars for 5 days of the week just because scared of flooding.
Well, u will be surprised how deep your evo can go through.

I wade through flooded road once, 3/4 tire deep. My car jerks for few hrs then everything back to normal...will i do it again? Definitely No. Wading water is a 50/50 thing. Getting stuck is the least of your worry. The main concern is u cant see if there is a super big hole enough to swallow your car
 

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Coz earlier no money .
Actually earlier did not plan for it. My cars were from Civic to Accord to Accord and was also to Accord, but prices was sky high so mechanic ask me try Mitsu. The Mitsu auto gb died after 6months so instead of changing gb swap everything.....hhahahhahah
 

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Well, u will be surprised how deep your evo can go through.

I wade through flooded road once, 3/4 tire deep. My car jerks for few hrs then everything back to normal...will i do it again? Definitely No. Wading water is a 50/50 thing. Getting stuck is the least of your worry. The main concern is u cant see if there is a super big hole enough to swallow your car
Air intake higher up then okay, if low down, finish.....hhahahha
 

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Well, u will be surprised how deep your evo can go through.

I wade through flooded road once, 3/4 tire deep. My car jerks for few hrs then everything back to normal...will i do it again? Definitely No. Wading water is a 50/50 thing. Getting stuck is the least of your worry. The main concern is u cant see if there is a super big hole enough to swallow your car
I never need to pass thru any major floods before in my normal routes, at most was just like 5cm water level and even that is very rare.
 

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Actually earlier did not plan for it. My cars were from Civic to Accord to Accord and was also to Accord, but prices was sky high so mechanic ask me try Mitsu. The Mitsu auto gb died after 6months so instead of changing gb swap everything.....hhahahhahah
hmmm entah entah, purposely killed the autobox for a reason to upgrade? :biggrin:
 
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Bought meself an suv few years back and loving it very much, good around corners, aint slow either, fuel efficient on long hauls too. Full tank able to cover approx 700km, iam happy with this purchase
 

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Bought meself an suv few years back and loving it very much, good around corners, aint slow either, fuel efficient on long hauls too. Full tank able to cover approx 700km, iam happy with this purchase
Long haul I can get 700km per tank too, is the city drive that the SUV drinks......lol
 
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hmmm entah entah, purposely killed the autobox for a reason to upgrade? :biggrin:
Actually no, when I bought over (actually belongs to mechanic BIL), I told my mechanic to swap immediately. He refuse and say drive first lah, everything in good condition, all service under him. Well, you know Mitsu auto gb, this gb I think is same batch with Perdana SEi......lol
 

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My wife actually prefers tall SUV but when I offered her Airtrek Turbo she declined coz too old. She said she wants HRV or CRV, so I ignore her. I just let her drive the Mark X, luckily she likes it. I remembered she was a bit surprised on her birthday I sold off her Livina and told her just drive either the Mark X or the manual Swift!
 

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I don't like SUV coz they take a lot of time to wash plus the height, reaching to wash the roof is time consuming not yet talk about polishing the roof, go car wash also more expensive than sedan.
 

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Bought meself an suv few years back and loving it very much, good around corners, aint slow either, fuel efficient on long hauls too. Full tank able to cover approx 700km, iam happy with this purchase
what SUV can get 700km per tank?
 

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Bought meself an suv few years back and loving it very much, good around corners, aint slow either, fuel efficient on long hauls too. Full tank able to cover approx 700km, iam happy with this purchase
what SUV did you get?

I don't like SUV coz they take a lot of time to wash plus the height, reaching to wash the roof is time consuming not yet talk about polishing the roof, go car wash also more expensive than sedan.
You need a ladder. HAHAHAHAHA
 

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