Rm8k Wira ownership experience-A long way to go

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I only having RM7K to buy a car.
Is a Kancil with a L7 turbo a nice bargain for Rm5.5K?
Any pros and cons for the car?
I live in JB is it sourcing part for L7 turbo hard?
Hope some sifu can help
Although I still look for other car like Wira 1.5/1.6
Corolla seg 1.6 those a more likely over my budget but will still look for it.


Currently own a Honda Jazz due to some reason need to gv it to my dad. But he only gv me so little $$$ to find a car

Update_Had bought a Wira Vdo Auto 1.5
Now is the ownership for a Very Old car start.....And Is a long way I guess.....Hahahahhaaha
 
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u need additonal $$ for maintenance as well
 

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Yes,those also inside my consideration. I don't mind use my own $$ to do the maintenance.
have you considered cost of rebuilding the engine, turbo, safety of the car?
not cheap and not easy.
 

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Waja, BLM, Kelisa, old accord 2.0 / 2.2, gen2...all within budget and with some nego skill.

Just remember its used car with some minor repair needed. My personal pick is the Kelisa...its simple to maintain, easy to drive and kinda fun for its speed.

If u want some handling then its the waja or gen2. However with high mileage, the suspension parts esp for the rear multi link will set u back few hundreds ringgit.

Dont mind high roadtax then the accord it is. I think the accord comes with wishbone suspension...a bragging point.

I went to Segamat yesterday to pick up my brother bike and the used car there got olebty of choice with very competitive pricing. Its becoming like Kajang.

If u dont mind 2 wheel then a used super moped is well within yr budget. With a givi box and raincoat, rain is not an issue. U can save on petrol and maintenance. Trust me, riding is not that bad....I rode my brother used bike (kapchai) from Segamat to Melaka with no problem at all.
 
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fuh segamat to melaka, which road u used.i did a loop from bkt katil to jasin tangkak sagil segamat, then segamat to gemas, tamping alor gajah back to bkt katil on my lagenda. buntut sakit woi
 

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I only having RM7K to buy a car.
Is a Kancil with a L7 turbo a nice bargain for Rm5.5K?
Any pros and cons for the car?
I live in JB is it sourcing part for L7 turbo hard?
Hope some sifu can help
Although I still look for other car like Wira 1.5/1.6
Corolla seg 1.6 those a more likely over my budget but will still look for it.


Currently own a Honda Jazz due to some reason need to gv it to my dad. But he only gv me so little $$$ to find a car
Does it have to be 7k only or can that be considered a deposit?

Actually there's a lot more you can look at but most cars at this price bracket will need servicing or some level of fixing. Don't buy the antiquated Kancil or the L7 turbo la. Unless you know people in the halfcut industry it'll be a pain-in-the-ass to shop for parts. But to be fair if it's not broken it won't really be an issue.

Personally I'd consider something more like 15k or so cars. 7k is a bit hard to find anything decent. Unless you want a stock Wira 1.5.
 

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fuh segamat to melaka, which road u used.i did a loop from bkt katil to jasin tangkak sagil segamat, then segamat to gemas, tamping alor gajah back to bkt katil on my lagenda. buntut sakit woi
Segamat - Gemas - Air kuning - Selandar - Durian Tunggal - Melaka.

The bike is a Modenas GT128...surprisingly very comfortable and sufficient power.
 

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My opinion, RM7k go get a new car for downpayment (e.g. new saga premium DP app. RM4k) then d rest of the money use it for monthly installment. Maintenance no need to worry as covered by warranties. New car less items to maintain anyway
 

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My opinion, RM7k go get a new car for downpayment (e.g. new saga premium DP app. RM4k) then d rest of the money use it for monthly installment. Maintenance no need to worry as covered by warranties. New car less items to maintain anyway

Another problem I didn't mention. For the Jazz I still need to pay for the loan. So there is no way for me to buy another new car:bawling:
 

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Does it have to be 7k only or can that be considered a deposit?

Actually there's a lot more you can look at but most cars at this price bracket will need servicing or some level of fixing. Don't buy the antiquated Kancil or the L7 turbo la. Unless you know people in the halfcut industry it'll be a pain-in-the-ass to shop for parts. But to be fair if it's not broken it won't really be an issue.

Personally I'd consider something more like 15k or so cars. 7k is a bit hard to find anything decent. Unless you want a stock Wira 1.5.

Because the Jazz I still need to pay for the loan,so I need to source out a car with cash.

Now,I also looking for a 1.5 wira auto. Now arranging time to see. Rm8k otr
 

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Dont spend all your budget.
Get as cheap as possible as used car ( esp older vehicle ) will surely need some repair.

Wira 1.5 is good as daily driver from A to B but the auto got miserable fc. wira 1.5 at 8k otr? thats abt the same range with used Waja 4g18 or Campro non-cps. Whatever it is, nego like no tomorrow and if not satisfy...walk away.
 

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Dont spend all your budget.
Get as cheap as possible as used car ( esp older vehicle ) will surely need some repair.

Wira 1.5 is good as daily driver from A to B but the auto got miserable fc. wira 1.5 at 8k otr? thats abt the same range with used Waja 4g18 or Campro non-cps. Whatever it is, nego like no tomorrow and if not satisfy...walk away.

Wira auto 1.5 so bad at FC? Today I will go check out a wira,will nego until the price I want. Thx forbthe advice.
 

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Changing EO is a good DIY but what do you guys do with your old EO?
i collect in barrel and call any company whom can offer the best price. Previous barrel content was bought by a company from Seremban. Melakans offer was less RM50 from the Seremban guy.
 

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EO can go to nearest SWM(Southern Waste Management) for recycle. Same with cooking oil. just give to them
 

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Update.
This Sunday going to look at another Wira.
Now only realise wira engine have different version. MMC & VDO.
The 1 I am Looking is a 1.5 VDO auto. Any Sifu know need to look out for anything?Thx
 

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Update.
This Sunday going to look at another Wira.
Now only realise wira engine have different version. MMC & VDO.
The 1 I am Looking is a 1.5 VDO auto. Any Sifu know need to look out for anything?Thx
MMC = Mitsubishi, VDO = Siemens ECU. Those plan to mod will look for MMC.
Go join Wira MDM group in FB. Can ask questions and search for parts
 

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MMC = Mitsubishi, VDO = Siemens ECU. Those plan to mod will look for MMC.
Go join Wira MDM group in FB. Can ask questions and search for parts
Ok,noted. Not going to mod since I just take to work or go to KL for some trip only. I do consider to change some old stuff out for new parts like throttle body, ignition coil & coil plug since the car is 2007.
 

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Ok,noted. Not going to mod since I just take to work or go to KL for some trip only. I do consider to change some old stuff out for new parts like throttle body, ignition coil & coil plug since the car is 2007.
ok. VDO is better in fuel economy is better than MMC. But MMC is easier to mess with. VDO is self adapting so imho it's easier to play with but quite difficult to mess with.

Because VDO is self adapting it uses a lot of sensors vs the MMC. These sensors are all wear and tear so it's worth checking them out and replacing them. O2 x 1, MAP, crank, cam sensors swap them all out. Ignition coil, ignition cables swap them out. TB is a question mark because if it's not broken, don't touch it. The mechanism inside the TB is bloody sensitive. Knock it a bit whilst cleaning then you'll need to get the PDT scanner to reset and clear the fault code. If you don't clear the code the car will run really rough. Also a car this old better have a look at the brake lines, if got budget swap to steel braided ones. I recommend Supercircuit ones.

You want better FC get a PNP head, skim the head down and use the Wira SE header or an aftermarket header. Then use a 2" exhaust system throughout with a quiet rear muffler. Throw in a resonator if it's still too loud. Forget about s-flow or twister exhausts, straight good old fashioned exhaust is better even for autos. Use lightweight 15" rims and if you want to upgrade the brakes the GSR ones are PNP. You can get a lot of extras like Satria GTI rear arms to have the ARB link brackets on the arms itself so can use dogbone type ARB. Also the Satria GTI power steering rack is faster if you're looking for better steering feel. Also a front strut tower bar will improve driving feel. If you still want more can go for UR side bars and fender bars to complete the set. The front ARB just use the GSR one.

Satria GTI seats or Putra seats are PNP too and are way better than stock seats. Oh if you can find one, the Satria GTI R3 is the best Satria out there and it's road legal seam welded from factory. Rare but the best. Else get a Wira C99 car. Avoid the 1.3 at all costs.

Good luck with your search.
 

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ok. VDO is better in fuel economy is better than MMC. But MMC is easier to mess with. VDO is self adapting so imho it's easier to play with but quite difficult to mess with.

Because VDO is self adapting it uses a lot of sensors vs the MMC. These sensors are all wear and tear so it's worth checking them out and replacing them. O2 x 1, MAP, crank, cam sensors swap them all out. Ignition coil, ignition cables swap them out. TB is a question mark because if it's not broken, don't touch it. The mechanism inside the TB is bloody sensitive. Knock it a bit whilst cleaning then you'll need to get the PDT scanner to reset and clear the fault code. If you don't clear the code the car will run really rough. Also a car this old better have a look at the brake lines, if got budget swap to steel braided ones. I recommend Supercircuit ones.

You want better FC get a PNP head, skim the head down and use the Wira SE header or an aftermarket header. Then use a 2" exhaust system throughout with a quiet rear muffler. Throw in a resonator if it's still too loud. Forget about s-flow or twister exhausts, straight good old fashioned exhaust is better even for autos. Use lightweight 15" rims and if you want to upgrade the brakes the GSR ones are PNP. You can get a lot of extras like Satria GTI rear arms to have the ARB link brackets on the arms itself so can use dogbone type ARB. Also the Satria GTI power steering rack is faster if you're looking for better steering feel. Also a front strut tower bar will improve driving feel. If you still want more can go for UR side bars and fender bars to complete the set. The front ARB just use the GSR one.

Satria GTI seats or Putra seats are PNP too and are way better than stock seats. Oh if you can find one, the Satria GTI R3 is the best Satria out there and it's road legal seam welded from factory. Rare but the best. Else get a Wira C99 car. Avoid the 1.3 at all costs.

Good luck with your search.

Noted with Thx!!! I will take note on those thing!!
I read alot about The throttle body is sensitive. So I might not touch that 1st.
I saw the owner had swap out the old brake with some Nissan 2pot brake. I had test drive once is quite nice for the braking.
This sunday will check out agn with my fren. If everything is ok I will take the car
 
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Noted with Thx!!! I will take note on those thing!!
I read alot about The throttle body is sensitive. So I might not touch that 1st.
I saw the owner had swap out the old brake with some Nissan 2pot brake. I had test drive once is quite nice for the braking.
This sunday will check out agn with my fren. If everything is ok I will take the car
What are the specs?
 

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1.5 4g15 VDO Auto 2007 i think is a C97 body. Not aeroback

15inch rim, Nissan 2pot brake, adjustable (will swap out), exhaust is stock. I think the owner had change the rear to s flow.
Open the boot and check the spare wheel area for rust. If there is a lot of water be careful as it will need a lot of rubber to be replaced or that it could be caused by a severe accident. Check that all lights is not an aquarium - if there is water in the tail lights or front, check that nothing is shorted or rust and crusty wiring.
 

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With regards to Wira, my 2 sen is to check the chassis/body. The other parts can be easily replaced.

If car was recently resprayed, please check the roof, rear fenders, doors & boot for patched up jobs. Pay particular attention to the roof. If you find putty there, walk away. On second thought, dont walk. Run instead
 

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Open the boot and check the spare wheel area for rust. If there is a lot of water be careful as it will need a lot of rubber to be replaced or that it could be caused by a severe accident. Check that all lights is not an aquarium - if there is water in the tail lights or front, check that nothing is shorted or rust and crusty wiring.
If raining season, good to spot for leaked. If really want the car, ask owner park outside for rain exposure.
Feel the car carpet, raise up all car mats check bottom got water vapor/spot, car smell ?. Dash board position, doors...
Like sifus mention...rust and accident dents, chassis condition. Need good eyes and experience.
 

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1.5 4g15 VDO Auto 2007 i think is a C97 body. Not aeroback

15inch rim, Nissan 2pot brake, adjustable (will swap out), exhaust is stock. I think the owner had change the rear to s flow.
Sounds like a de-mod car.
Check thoroughly or organize a TT session by inviting ZTH members to view the car.