Review: Firestorm Ignition Coil Booster

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thought you threw away as mentioned in your previous post?
the 1 i throw away is STORMBERG

I'm still using d FIRESTORM.. it works fine.. running lean now.. so, i need to put more fuel in it.. I'll get a fuel regulator soon..

well, u know, to get more power u need more air, more fuel n more spark :wink:

i just wanna know if any1 else has a burnt coil after using it.. my coil is old already.. it will die sooner or later, right?
 
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the 1 i throw away is STORMBERG

I'm still using d FIRESTORM.. it works fine.. running lean now.. so, i need to put more fuel in it.. I'll get a fuel regulator soon..

well, u know, to get more power u need more air, more fuel n more spark :wink:

i just wanna know if any1 else has a burnt coil after using it.. my coil is old already.. it will die sooner or later, right?
In a way, but if second one dies, then you know what is the cause....
 

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I'm very very very curious as to why the manufacturer or designer or owner of this product decided to use no marketing strategy as their marketing strategy. I mean, no website, no published findings, no explanation on how it works or why it works and solely rely on their resellers to do their selling for them with youtube videos of the product increasing the capacitance or voltage output of the sparkplug (incidentally they claim it's not a step-up device, which if it was - it would shorten the lifespan of the source of electricity) and when asked, all the resellers do nothing but try to debunk based on their trial runs.

I'm sorry but that's like saying the Wright brothers saying that human flight is possible because birds can do it too. Where's the proof? Where's the how-does-it-work? I need so much more than feedback from people who'll probably succumb to the placebo effect because the product isn't cheap to buy in the first place. Also, modern car manufacturers aren't exactly dumb. If there's a way to make something work better I'm sure they would've applied it if it was economically viable.

Sorry.

Just venting.
 

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Does any1 burnt their ignition coil after installing firestorm?

My coil burnt yesterday.. I think bcoz i drive it hard n long.. A bit bz that day

Now replace d coil with used 1 n put 15a fuse on firestorm (20a previously)

Will test this setup for a while n see what'll happen :wink:
Mine is still running ok so far..

I'm very very very curious as to why the manufacturer or designer or owner of this product decided to use no marketing strategy as their marketing strategy. I mean, no website, no published findings, no explanation on how it works or why it works and solely rely on their resellers to do their selling for them with youtube videos of the product increasing the capacitance or voltage output of the sparkplug (incidentally they claim it's not a step-up device, which if it was - it would shorten the lifespan of the source of electricity) and when asked, all the resellers do nothing but try to debunk based on their trial runs.

I'm sorry but that's like saying the Wright brothers saying that human flight is possible because birds can do it too. Where's the proof? Where's the how-does-it-work? I need so much more than feedback from people who'll probably succumb to the placebo effect because the product isn't cheap to buy in the first place. Also, modern car manufacturers aren't exactly dumb. If there's a way to make something work better I'm sure they would've applied it if it was economically viable.

Sorry.

Just venting.
Too bad we did not find an electric/electronic engineer. If not we can dismantle and let him see and he could explain the circuit to us.
 

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Someone did open it n copy..

Now selling as HKS ignition booster, i think

Selling below rm100 in mudah.. Go check it out :wink:
 

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Someone did open it n copy..

Now selling as HKS ignition booster, i think

Selling below rm100 in mudah.. Go check it out :wink:
Yeap. Seen that. But we are interesting on how it works, in engineering way and not salesman way haha
 

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Yeap. Seen that. But we are interesting on how it works, in engineering way and not salesman way haha
Interested enough to buy 1 n operate? :biggrin:

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From what i see of d product.. Its shell is easily breakable if opened

So, if any1 volunteer their firestorm, it will need a new shell :wink:
 

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Interested enough to buy 1 n operate? :biggrin:

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From what i see of d product.. Its shell is easily breakable if opened

So, if any1 volunteer their firestorm, it will need a new shell :wink:
I think CV owns one. And using it.
 

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I'm very very very curious as to why the manufacturer or designer or owner of this product decided to use no marketing strategy as their marketing strategy. I mean, no website, no published findings, no explanation on how it works or why it works and solely rely on their resellers to do their selling for them with youtube videos of the product increasing the capacitance or voltage output of the sparkplug (incidentally they claim it's not a step-up device, which if it was - it would shorten the lifespan of the source of electricity) and when asked, all the resellers do nothing but try to debunk based on their trial runs.

I'm sorry but that's like saying the Wright brothers saying that human flight is possible because birds can do it too. Where's the proof? Where's the how-does-it-work? I need so much more than feedback from people who'll probably succumb to the placebo effect because the product isn't cheap to buy in the first place. Also, modern car manufacturers aren't exactly dumb. If there's a way to make something work better I'm sure they would've applied it if it was economically viable.

Sorry.

Just venting.
Power of "word of the mouth" marketing.....Like some makan place in some far away corner, people can still find it...:biggrin:
 

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This thread still alive? :rofl:

Dunno why, still have no 100% confidence in this even with great feedbacks. No RnD and not sure who is the founder that seems from Penang. Just a product appear suddenly.

If with RnD and etcs, would have less concern using it.
 

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This thread still alive? :rofl:

Dunno why, still have no 100% confidence in this even with great feedbacks. No RnD and not sure who is the founder that seems from Penang. Just a product appear suddenly.

If with RnD and etcs, would have less concern using it.
It's simple.

Because feedback can be rigged. Either by placebo effect or by cash.
 

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Hi everyone.

Looks like this thread is still running. Hahaha.

Yes there is an imitation unit of the FireStorm but the guy who copied it couldn't replicate the circuit. The HKS fake Booster's power doesn't come close to the Normal version of the FireStorm.

I have 2 customers who had bought the HKS convert to our FireStorm product after they burned RM100 buying online from a seller in mudah.my and incidentally the fake HKS is selling as low as RM30. Now that is a real joke. If it was a good product then why would the guy keep dropping his price?

I will be in KL from 28 May to 1 June and will meet any of you here who are curious enough to want to have a FREE TRIAL RUN of the FireStorm Booster and the FireStorm Filter in your own cars so that you can know the difference in performance.

Of course your personal expectation will differ from one to another but I would like to meet up with you guys just to let you have a go at it.

I can be contacted via Whatsapp or Voice on 016-4894940.

Cheers bros.


PS. So much talk based on hypothesis and everything else. Why dont you guys just pluck up the courage and come to meet me at Sunway Pyramid on the weekend night? Dont be afraid, I wont bite. I would like to meet especially Izso and all the taiko here who are super skeptical about what the FireStorm owners claim in forums. You will never know what you're talking about until you've experienced it. That's a challenge to you guys. After you've tested it, you can badmouth the FireStorm products as much as you want and I won't raise any objections. Just be truthful and don't let pride get in the way.
 
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This is not a sales thread so can only talk about technical issues. If want to talk business then please use PM.

I don't want to kena ban from thos forum. Hehehe.

Cheers.
 
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I don't really see what's technical over here as claimed. Until we wait for some real technical person to describe the device, it's effectiveness, pros and cons remain unclear to some. It's a shame that we didn't manage to push the test and review any further. And it's a shame that this thread is being used to bash other products and promote some...
 

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Huh? I said that since I would be in KL you guys can meet up to test the FireStorm. I thought that was the main intention of many here who wanted to know if the FireStorm did work or was just another sales gimmick.

I made the offer so if any of you guys want to kill that curiosity to know the answer then make an appointment with me to test out the FireStorm range of products.

I know that it is impossible to satisfy everyone's whims and fancies but I am trying my best here.

Izso, are you game???

Cheers.
 

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Huh? I said that since I would be in KL you guys can meet up to test the FireStorm. I thought that was the main intention of many here who wanted to know if the FireStorm did work or was just another sales gimmick.

I made the offer so if any of you guys want to kill that curiosity to know the answer then make an appointment with me to test out the FireStorm range of products.

I know that it is impossible to satisfy everyone's whims and fancies but I am trying my best here.

Izso, are you game???

Cheers.
Can actually know whether it works in just few mins? I guess they would want to have 1 sample unit to test for more than few mins to really find out how effective is the product?

I mean most of the time when we test new stuffs, butt feel are usually the thing that we get, so to say it works in few mins, could be just butt feel. Well, not saying is always like that but just possibilities are there.

Or u could just rent it to them with a small price that would be enough to cover your loss? As long can come into agreement, I guess is alright for both parties.

Just my suggestions if they really need more time to test it out. Not siding anyone ya.
 

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Can actually know whether it works in just few mins? I guess they would want to have 1 sample unit to test for more than few mins to really find out how effective is the product?

I mean most of the time when we test new stuffs, butt feel are usually the thing that we get, so to say it works in few mins, could be just butt feel. Well, not saying is always like that but just possibilities are there.

Or u could just rent it to them with a small price that would be enough to cover your loss? As long can come into agreement, I guess is alright for both parties.

Just my suggestions if they really need more time to test it out. Not siding anyone ya.
Exactly, agree with bro. SF on this. Lent a set to bro. Izso for test. We are not sure whether the ECU will countered the FS as we have done air leak device and the ECU did counter it after a few days. I actually have a FS in my Hyundai driven by my daughter. Initially she felt the smoothness, but after a few days no more feel already. You will probably say, she got uses to the smoothness already.
That is why a test unit will be good, then bro. Izso can also send fo dyno test before, after and after a while. If your unit is so good, you will surely gain from this test....:driver:
 

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Exactly, agree with bro. SF on this. Lent a set to bro. Izso for test. We are not sure whether the ECU will countered the FS as we have done air leak device and the ECU did counter it after a few days. I actually have a FS in my Hyundai driven by my daughter. Initially she felt the smoothness, but after a few days no more feel already. You will probably say, she got uses to the smoothness already.
That is why a test unit will be good, then bro. Izso can also send fo dyno test before, after and after a while. If your unit is so good, you will surely gain from this test....:driver:
Yup, if the product is real good, I think it will benefit the distributors more than ever. Unless is otherwise. Free write up and review...:hmmmm: Why not? Yet dyno cost bear by Izso IINM. I mean is a real good deal to test it out.
 

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Huh? I said that since I would be in KL you guys can meet up to test the FireStorm. I thought that was the main intention of many here who wanted to know if the FireStorm did work or was just another sales gimmick.

I made the offer so if any of you guys want to kill that curiosity to know the answer then make an appointment with me to test out the FireStorm range of products.

I know that it is impossible to satisfy everyone's whims and fancies but I am trying my best here.

Izso, are you game???

Cheers.
Can actually know whether it works in just few mins? I guess they would want to have 1 sample unit to test for more than few mins to really find out how effective is the product?

I mean most of the time when we test new stuffs, butt feel are usually the thing that we get, so to say it works in few mins, could be just butt feel. Well, not saying is always like that but just possibilities are there.

Or u could just rent it to them with a small price that would be enough to cover your loss? As long can come into agreement, I guess is alright for both parties.

Just my suggestions if they really need more time to test it out. Not siding anyone ya.
Exactly, agree with bro. SF on this. Lent a set to bro. Izso for test. We are not sure whether the ECU will countered the FS as we have done air leak device and the ECU did counter it after a few days. I actually have a FS in my Hyundai driven by my daughter. Initially she felt the smoothness, but after a few days no more feel already. You will probably say, she got uses to the smoothness already.
That is why a test unit will be good, then bro. Izso can also send fo dyno test before, after and after a while. If your unit is so good, you will surely gain from this test....:driver:
Yup, if the product is real good, I think it will benefit the distributors more than ever. Unless is otherwise. Free write up and review...:hmmmm: Why not? Yet dyno cost bear by Izso IINM. I mean is a real good deal to test it out.
Well I guess I dont have to say more, do I? I have a unit myself too and I am also used to it already. But the funny thing is when I take out the item and drive, the feeling is the same.
So if the sellers are really eager to let people to actually test it properly, that would be great. Just dont sound proud for letting others to test it for 5mins lol

But too bad no more hero to test haha
 

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found this sharing to all it works or just another add on...

This guy just did a DIY version of Ignition booster test on bike and cars...Link below

(diy) spark booooooster
Hahaha. That diy booster is a spark Voltage Stabilizer that uses a capacitor to supposedly hold the charge but this is an old design that was then the best that was available back in 1994.

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Well I guess I dont have to say more, do I? I have a unit myself too and I am also used to it already. But the funny thing is when I take out the item and drive, the feeling is the same.
So if the sellers are really eager to let people to actually test it properly, that would be great. Just dont sound proud for letting others to test it for 5mins lol

But too bad no more hero to test haha
Perhaps you could lend your unit to Izso?

I guess some may think they experience a placebo effect or they believe that the ECU learned the ignition timing and spark effects and countered it. Our R&D tests in many car modes don't show this happening even after a year of using the FireStorm. But to argue this point is pointless.

I only offer the free testing since no other dealer even want to do this for ZTH Forummers.

The FireStorm sales are definitely going very well with over 8000 units sold in just 2.5 years to the point that some copycats have even tried to clone the FireStorm but failed miserably. Tbis is why the KL copycat who did the fake HKS Voltage Booster is selling his fake product at RM30 today but when he started selling a few months ago was sold at RM200.

The FireStorm had also been sold to overseas market especially to Australia, New Zealand, USA, Europe and other countries. I am just making a point that it is very difficult for an Asian performance product to penetrate overseas Kwai-lo market unless the product is really bonafide.

Google for Benzworld and FireStorm and see why I am happy that my promotional efforts are worth the trouble. I don't have to promote the product myself as my customers will do it much more effectively for me.

At least I have made the offer to you guys so I have done my part in meeting you guys half way.

Cheers.
 

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Your R&D test? Where is the test results? If you have them show to the kwai lo, sure can sell one....
 

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That is why I said that we are already selling to them overseas. And they didn't even ask for the R&D results as you're all harping about.

The manufacturer is not into agressively pushing his product in the market but only sharing this product with those interested to have some better performance with an affordable priced product. We dont promise ridiculous figures in performance gains but instead let the prospective customers gauge for themselves the gains.

This is why we adopt the approach that you buy only if you're satisfied. And please don't tell me about loss of butt feel 1 or 2 months down the road. Even if you buy an American or European performance product and after 2 months feel that you lost that butt feel, do you think they would give you the time of day to hear your lamentations?

The FireStorm LifeTime 1-to-1 Exchange Warranty is for hard electronics failure and not about loss of butt feel. No American, Japanese or European product will warrant your total satisfaction for a lifetime coverage.

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R&D? Oh man he actually said that! R&D with results = research and development. R&D without results = Redo and duplicate.

I don't know why u like Kwai loh so much and it's definitely not Kwai loh knows the best dude. And I believe they are many Kwai loh like us who wants an actual technical description rather than customer feedback la, got people want to copy but failed la, sold many units la, and so on. Those are just marketing talk.

Well I wanted to lend my unit to Izso but things didn't went well and he had sold his hero. Somemore it's not plug and play coz the fuse isn't the same. Oh well, that's not an excuse, it's just that it didn't happen. And no firestorm seller was keen to let Izso to do a test with his unit, what a shame. I guess I'm outta here until someone can provide an interesting info sharing. I've done my review, whether the product is good or not it all depends on every individual.
 

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Yup. I don't think any FireStorm seller would waste so much time in this topic talking round and round.

Even William Hoo also didn't bother to waste him time here. I must be crazy wasting my time here talking to "super engineers".

No more replies from me.

Might as well close off this topic.
 

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Wah.. I am away for 2 days and I see my name thrown here there everywhere. Woooi...

PS. So much talk based on hypothesis and everything else. Why dont you guys just pluck up the courage and come to meet me at Sunway Pyramid on the weekend night? Dont be afraid, I wont bite. I would like to meet especially Izso and all the taiko here who are super skeptical about what the FireStorm owners claim in forums. You will never know what you're talking about until you've experienced it. That's a challenge to you guys. After you've tested it, you can badmouth the FireStorm products as much as you want and I won't raise any objections. Just be truthful and don't let pride get in the way.
I'm interested, however to be more comprehensive - I need time to do a proper test. I'm not too keen with trying for short periods of time. Sometime ago I was given a air-leaker device to test and it worked wonders for the first 1.5 days in my now-sold car. But after that the car adapted and made it redundant.

And since your product is a fuel saving device, it'll be useful to do a before and after comparison with ideally 4 weeks of tests, 2 weeks with and 2 weeks without the device. That was the bare minimum of what I wanted to test last time when I was discussing with you. You don't need a dyno test imho cuz dynos can be affected by so many things in the car.

Please accept my apologies on behalf of the critics here. You've been very professional and courteous with your replies and I do appreciate that. Rare to come across a responsive seller that doesn't get overly defensive and rude. It's only a pity you can't share any hard evidence of the R&D.

Exactly, agree with bro. SF on this. Lent a set to bro. Izso for test. We are not sure whether the ECU will countered the FS as we have done air leak device and the ECU did counter it after a few days. I actually have a FS in my Hyundai driven by my daughter. Initially she felt the smoothness, but after a few days no more feel already. You will probably say, she got uses to the smoothness already.
That is why a test unit will be good, then bro. Izso can also send fo dyno test before, after and after a while. If your unit is so good, you will surely gain from this test....:driver:
Eh.. dammit. I keep forgetting. You and CV both have one.. LEND ME LAAAAAAAA. !@)(*#!@)&%!(@#*!&

I'll try on my new car. HEhehe.:idea:
 

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Speaking of dyno,

I'm having a dyno session tomorrow.. If izso wanna come join to test the firestorm, let me know ;)

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Eh.. dammit. I keep forgetting. You and CV both have one.. LEND ME LAAAAAAAA. !@)(*#!@)&%!(@#*!&

I'll try on my new car. HEhehe.:idea:
Yup, and both have different wire mount so see which fits. If both does not fit then sorry, we cannot cut....
 
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guys en-light me some info okay?

how many MJ it able to produce for this Firestorm product.
 

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Speaking of dyno,

I'm having a dyno session tomorrow.. If izso wanna come join to test the firestorm, let me know ;)

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Aisay... should have offered when I still had my car for testing. Now with the new car still learning the ins and outs of the car.

Yup, and both have different wire mount so see which fits. If both does not fit then sorry, we cannot cut....
m-o-d-i-f-y :biggrin:
 

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Still no conclusive result on this device ? I following this thread and hope to get more information.. :)
That's exactly how I feel man.

But cvkit reported better 1-2km/l FC for his Myvi. Which is quite significant. But at the same time vr2turbo said no difference.
 

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That's exactly how I feel man.

But cvkit reported better 1-2km/l FC for his Myvi. Which is quite significant. But at the same time vr2turbo said no difference.
Yup, my air valve aka air leak have better feedback......:driver::biggrin:
 

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I have both fire storm filter and booster super in my car...it won't gaint a lot of hp and torque...but will feels like car smoother and lighter,and about fuel save,yes it can improve,for my car increase 30-50km per tank depends on weight on foot,but sometimes Fc remain same for sometimes heavy foot but my car still remain smoother and lighter and easier Potong car...and easier to reach higher speed...hope this can help you guys
 

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I have both fire storm filter and booster super in my car...it won't gaint a lot of hp and torque...but will feels like car smoother and lighter,and about fuel save,yes it can improve,for my car increase 30-50km per tank depends on weight on foot,but sometimes Fc remain same for sometimes heavy foot but my car still remain smoother and lighter and easier Potong car...and easier to reach higher speed...hope this can help you guys
Brother, if right foot is light, no firestorm also, fc will be better also......:driver:
 
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Unfortunately for me, the test unit I used didn't work that well. It worked for a few days then my car died on the road in PJ. I removed the FS and replaced the original fuse and car went back to normal. The FS was dead, the fuse wasn't burnt either. Dunno what happened.
 

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dont waste money on suck a product, if want more spark go for well engineer product like okada, MSD performance, and few more.

Good things never come cheap, cheap things never come good.
 

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Unfortunately for me, the test unit I used didn't work that well. It worked for a few days then my car died on the road in PJ. I removed the FS and replaced the original fuse and car went back to normal. The FS was dead, the fuse wasn't burnt either. Dunno what happened.
Suppose to be Lifetime warranty woh!.....:driver:
 

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dont waste money on suck a product, if want more spark go for well engineer product like okada, MSD performance, and few more.

Good things never come cheap, cheap things never come good.
Probably true. But apparently the newer MSD products made in China are subpar? I dunno, never got a chance to use MSDs.

Suppose to be Lifetime warranty woh!.....:driver:
Dunno. Mine returned back to the fella who loaned me.
 

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Probably true. But apparently the newer MSD products made in China are subpar? I dunno, never got a chance to use MSDs.



Dunno. Mine returned back to the fella who loaned me.
So far fuel savings gadgets, seems there are but savings is so minimal it does not cover the cost of the unit. Still like most mentioned if want to save on fuel, lighter right foot, drive gentle, don't mod the car for more power.....hhahahhahahahha
I have seen many try to increase spark and all that, still does not work. If it does, car manufacturer won't have done it already.

I remember the warranty is, if it fails one to one exchange.....
 

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So far fuel savings gadgets, seems there are but savings is so minimal it does not cover the cost of the unit. Still like most mentioned if want to save on fuel, lighter right foot, drive gentle, don't mod the car for more power.....hhahahhahahahha
I have seen many try to increase spark and all that, still does not work. If it does, car manufacturer won't have done it already.

I remember the warranty is, if it fails one to one exchange.....
Vacuum meter best hahaha!